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@Oknowuk @ArmchairW Exactly. Even 2003 Iraq was more serious. Showed more commitment and reality. Today is like a joke.

@stopheathrow @ArmchairW From 1980s brat-pack wall street politicians, US has been short-term soundbite win rather than WW2 Marshall plan to stick around for as long as it takes to clear up the mess.

Our military establishment in America has been so mentally destroyed by the privilege of hegemony that they can't even comprehend what defeat actually looks like.⬇️ A concise definition: Victory is when you impose your will on the enemy. A military advisor told this to Trump once because he used that exact phrasing when discussing the war with Iran early on. Has the United States and/or Israel imposed their will on Iran? No, we failed to accomplish almost every objective we set forth to accomplish. I set this out at length earlier this week. Have the Iranians imposed their will on us? Yes, absolutely. They drove the United States from the Persian Gulf, seized control of the Strait of Hormuz, deterred Israel from taking any action against them without full American backing that will not be forthcoming, and broke the US Navy's blockade of their global commerce. That isn't just victory, it's an unqualified, decisive victory that is already reshaping the Middle East around Iran's rising power. The first step to recovery is admitting that you have a problem, and yet I see nothing but cope on this website and in the broader public sphere from the American camp. I had imagined that in any war with Iran we would see a similar dynamic as that playing out between Russia and Ukraine - one in which Iran would put up a stiff struggle but ultimately fall to superior force. The notion that the United States would suffer a catastrophic failure of resolve, abandon the Persian Gulf without firing a shot, poke at the Iranians with standoff weapons until we ran out six weeks later and then sue for a ceasefire and prove to not even be able to enforce a blockade is a level of collapse that I actually find offensive as a veteran. But this collapse is, however, the natural and inevitable result of the toxic morass of soft corruption, safe promotions, stupid politics, indiscipline, careerism, phoned-in planning, half-assed training, incuriosity and macho gym bro hubris that the US military has absolutely FOUNDERED in since the end of the Cold War. And the people in charge of said military - trust me, "Secretary of War" Pete Hegseth is very much a symptom and representative of a broader culture here - are currently being allowed to spin this debacle as a victory instead of being purged from the ranks en masse as they deserve and as they must should we wish to restore American power going forward.

@BGA_DK @citrinowicz Get lost you loser: YOU ARE ANOTHER FAKE PROPAGANDA ACCOUNT. For some reason Citrinowicz account is full of this bullshit. WHY IS THIS CAN YOU EXPLAIN??? Why are FAKE RUSSIAN PSY-OPS ALL OVER THE @citrinowicz ACCOUNT???

@stopheathrow @citrinowicz That is the only way. You can't bomb Iran to a regime change, nor will sanctions work in the medium turn. I am all for regime change, but we need to be realistic.

After such a complex campaign, there is one thing we must avoid: falling back on slogans that lack real operational meaning. “Finish the job,” “deliver a decisive blow,” “hit them so hard they’ll surrender at the negotiating table” — these are empty phrases. Recent conflicts have already shown that there is no practical capability to translate them into reality. Iran is not going to surrender. The regime is not going to collapse soon. And any large-scale military move will only deepen global economic strain. Statements like “we’ll dismantle the Iranian axis militarily” are especially problematic. They set objectives that simply cannot be achieved, meaning any military campaign built around them is set up to fail from the outset. There is no “decisive blow” against Iran. Even a severe attacks against the regime would not “finish the job” but it would almost certainly provoke a much harsher Iranian response. The urge to simplify the situation is understandable. But it doesn’t align with the reality we’ve just experienced on the battlefield in the current warfare. Most importantly, it creates expectations that inevitably lead to deep disappointment, a gap between what may be a highly successful military operation on the tactical level and the far more ambitious strategic goals that were never realistically achievable in the first place. #IranWar‌

@BGA_DK @citrinowicz Bullshit. Uninformed nonsense comment.

@stopheathrow @citrinowicz The put 300.000 soldiers in the Gulf, and drive to Teheran.

@phildstewart Yes exactly. Total disaster of a proposal. Especially the “new control mechanism” of the Strait.

(Reuters) - An Iranian proposal so far rejected by U.S. President Donald Trump would allow shipping in the Strait of Hormuz and end the U.S. blockade of Iran while leaving talks on Iran's nuclear program for later, a senior Iranian official said on Saturday. Reuters and other news organizations already reported over the past week that Tehran was proposing to reopen the strait before nuclear issues were resolved. The official confirmed that this new timeline had now been spelled out in a formal proposal conveyed to the United States through mediators. Iranian media said Tehran's 14-point proposal included the withdrawal of U.S. forces from areas surrounding Iran, lifting the blockade, releasing Iran’s frozen assets, payment of compensation, lifting sanctions and ending the war on all fronts, including Lebanon, as well as a as a new control mechanism for the strait.

@hey_itsmyturn @hey_itsmyturn I can see it now on that site

#USAF 🇺🇸 Rivet Joint on ISR / SIGINT mission over the Persian Gulf. (62-4132 | AE01CF) (Last track: 2110Z)

NEW: Iran does not appear to have altered its negotiating position over the management of the Strait of Hormuz and its nuclear program in its latest proposal. Some elements of the Iranian regime may calculate that Iran can impose sufficient economic and political costs on the United States to coerce the United States to make concessions. Other Key Takeaways: Iran is taking steps to try to withstand the US naval blockade. Iran has reportedly begun reducing its oil production as its storage capacity reaches its limits. Iran is likely reducing oil production rather than halting it because shutting down oil production could cause significant damage to Iranian oil fields. Hezbollah may be domestically producing first-person view (FPV) drones. Hezbollah posted footage on May 2 showing Hezbollah fighters domestically producing drones, but it is unclear if the drones in the video are FPV drones. Hezbollah’s video comes after an Israeli military official told the Associated Press on April 30 that Israel believes that Hezbollah is domestically manufacturing FPV drones.

@TheStudyofWar @TheStudyofWar exactly.

@jmcsms @citrinowicz I disagree with you. If America wants to, it’ll impose what it wants - what the world wants - on this regime.

@stopheathrow @citrinowicz I'll give SME status on being a loser This is an ill considered war which will not lead to the regime changing and has irreparably damaged the US, which shouters like you don't begin to understand yet. They don't get regime change without boots on the ground. Not happening.

@jmcsms @citrinowicz So why are you talking about green ink then you loser. Get lost. Talking nonsense.

@stopheathrow @citrinowicz Have you been drinking? Is it "the voices" then? I CGAF about the Greens, Polanski is as much of a charlatan as ffffFarage - twa cheeks o' the same grifting erse.

@Don956746234971 @mdubowitz @miadmaleki Forcibly opens the strait is a MORAL OBLIGATION. It is an INTERNATIONAL WATERWAY!!!!!

@stopheathrow @mdubowitz @miadmaleki Forcibly opens the Strait: back to Square 1.

Trump’s Resolve on Iran at 60 Days President Trump deserves credit for staying the course on Iran when so many around him are losing their nerve. wsj.com/opinion/trumps…

@jmcsms @citrinowicz @jmcsms are you a Green Party activist? Honesty biggest bunch of losers in the world. Totally corrupt and ineffective. Utterly useless.

@stopheathrow @citrinowicz Do you write in green ink? Having a clue if you're able to finish what you start before starting is a good idea...

@marklevinshow @marklevinshow yes exactly very well said. Especially the last para. And this is a total lose. Should also be obvious there is no win coming from this latest nonsense:

Well said

@marklevinshow @marklevinshow of course he’s right. Even a blind man can see it.

You’re right

@YKouros47076 @citrinowicz @YKouros47076 it looks like VICTORY

@stopheathrow @citrinowicz what does the other 85% look like

@NadavPollak @NadavPollak yes exactly. He seems to believe that the whole work of spreading international terrorism, building fortified missile silos while ruining the Iranian economy, all happened POST JCPOA WITHDRAWAL. So all the blame can be put on America. I wonder what his agenda is.

I see that we returned to the fantasy of the JCPOA eventually would have made moderates win over Iran. I would have tagged the analyst that wrote it but he blocked me for some reason (hi Danny). I’m all for arguing if this war against Iran was justified or not, but let’s not make reality rosier than it is. After the JCPOA Iran kept on butchering Syrians, build their missile arsenal, arm the Houthis, Hezbollah and more, and supported terrorism. The JCPOA did not strengthen the moderates

@kabeljauherrman so what is your position? In the last 1 day you created like 20 pro Ukrainian posts defending Ukraine against accusations of corruption. Now you’re on my account spreading defeatist propaganda. The Iran war distracts from Ukraine - that your problem? Looks like you are another bullshit manipulation to me. More fake crap to confuse the honest public.

@stopheathrow @BookwormDonnish @citrinowicz 😂 I can assure you I'm all but pro ruzzia. And now be a kind person and answer the question please

@kabeljauherrman @BookwormDonnish @citrinowicz Another bullshit fake account. Go and take your defeatist Russian talking points somewhere else please.

@stopheathrow @BookwormDonnish @citrinowicz But he is right, isn't he?

@BookwormDonnish @citrinowicz @BookwormDonnish please don’t comment on my posts. I believe you are a Russian psy-op repeating defeatist bullshit Russian talking points.

@stopheathrow @citrinowicz Spot Heathrow, What you are proposing is a major ground invasion of Iran. What country is going to take the lead in doing that?