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Vicente

Vicente

@vicentronics

Complexity, in code or in the mind, always finds a way to bite you back.

Sao Paulo, Brazil Katılım Haziran 2010
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Will@Twill068·
You're saying ETH will gain the value it necessitates via attempted attacks on the network? - Low ETH value securing very high value, leading to ETH gaining value via fighting off attacks? (Malicious actors buying and getting slashed). Not impossible, but without attempted attacks ETH value can remain low.
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Leo Lanza | Lanza.eth
Leo Lanza | Lanza.eth@leolanza·
The model predicts a 6 figure price per ETH. I’ve been building an economic security model for ETH and turning it into a dashboard. The math does not support David’s claim that Ethereum can thrive while ETH, the monetary commodity securing it, fails to appreciate. As more assets are tokenized, Ethereum’s security budget has to scale with the value it secures. That means ETH doesn’t just benefit from adoption. It must reprice higher for Ethereum to safely secure the next wave of global assets. Currently, the model has ETH below floor valuation and historically ETH does not stay there long.
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David Hoffman@TrustlessState

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Vicente@vicentronics·
@JoeXuY @grassosteve otherwise you buy all ETH and use it to control the underlying assets for less than they are worth ETF companies don't secure their underlying assets
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joe xu
joe xu@JoeXuY·
@grassosteve Why does the ETH market cap have to match the assets on it though? ETFs are worth a lot but the ETF companies aren’t
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Steve Grasso
Steve Grasso@grassosteve·
$ETH market cap $256B. The stablecoins running on it = $322B up 10x in 5 years, headed to $2T by 2030. The tokenized real world assets settling on it are $65B, which are up 245x since 2020, headed to $10T by 2030. The infrastructure is worth less than what runs on it. Also the ETH/BTC ratio is at a 5 year low. Either the thesis is wrong or the price is. I am betting on the latter. Any strong opinions out there based on existing/projected data/facts? $ETH
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Ethprofit.eth 🦇🔊
Hyperliquid flipping Solana is just another "next Ethereum" shitcoin and the same will happen to Hyperliquid. It has 20 whitelisted validators, half belong to the CEO and the rest to his buddies. Ethereum stays KING because it’s secured by tens of thousands of independent validators worldwide, open to anyone to build and contribute on.
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Simon Dedic@sjdedic

I've been an Ethereum supporter since the early days and I still believe it's one of the most important pieces of infrastructure in crypto. The tech is great, my conviction hasn't changed in that respect. But watching 9 senior researchers and key operators leave the Ethereum Foundation in 2026 alone is something I can't just ignore. People like Tim Beiko, Josh Stark, Barnabé Monnot, Trent Van Epps, Carl Beek. These people weren't just random employees at the foundation, they were the foundation. You can call it restructuring, you can call it decentralization, whatever. But when your best people are walking out the door, that's a massive red flag regardless of what narrative you put around it. And honestly, this whole situation just reinforces something I've been feeling for a while now. I am so tired of chain wars, ecosystem politics and spending any more time debating how to price an asset than actually evaluating the businesses being built on top of it. I don't want to argue about L1 vs L2. I don't want to pick sides in some tribal war between ecosystems. I just want to back exceptional founders building real businesses with real revenue, real users and real products. Hyperliquid recently flipping Solana is another great example of how a great product and distribution can organically build an ecosystem top down, rather than trying to force it from the ground up. The infrastructure circle jerk and the idealistic cypherpunk phase of selling delusional dreams in crypto was great and fun, but it's over. The next decade will be dominated by much sharper founders building real businesses, and I wouldn't be surprised if we see some of these even flip ETH and SOL as they continue to bleed out. Time to grow up and play real games with real people.

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Vicente@vicentronics·
Thank you for the thoughtful and detailed response. I had no idea the control was this granular; the per-prompt dedupe against my full history is genuinely impressive. I must admit I had never tried any of those features and would either go for daily mixes (that end up being too biased to what i already listen to) or Discover Weekly (which is often too “new” to me). I still get the impression that radio gives me the perfect mix between familiarity and discoverability. On the radio, not being able to skip songs turns out to be a feature. Having to endure songs that I hate gives me that “surprise” effect when songs that I love play (“wow I love that song!”) Music also has this thing where you often have to listen to the same songs a couple times until you begin to enjoy them. Not being able to skip songs gives you that too. I guess I will try asking the DJ to give me a mix between familiarity and discoverability similar to a pop radio station. And I will control myself not to hit the skip button.
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Gustav Söderström
@vicentronics You actually have full control over this now if you want. Try telling or texting either the DJ (right below shortcuts on the start page) - or prompt a playlist (on the + button) - about what you want to hear and then append for example ”….but only songs I’ve never listened to before.” or ”….but only songs I’ve never listened to before and that have never been on the top 100 charts.” or ”…..but only songs that are not in my top two genres.” or ”….only songs released in the last month that are trending on TikTok but not yet on the top lists.” etc etc. We’ve tried to build a system that understands both you and your history deeply, but also what is happening in the world - both right now and historicallly. The system can actually dedupe against your entire listening history (since 2008) in real-time (using constant time bloom filter). I agree with @gabriel1 that we could and should make it even easier to choose how much discovery vs familiarity you want. It turns out though that many people want different amounts of discovery vs familiarity in different contexts, so the first step was to just give the user full and detailed control per session/playlist. Next step is making the defaults easier to change. Hope that helps get you out of your rut in the mean time.
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gabriel@gabriel1·
spotify solved music recommendation, have not opened release radar for 6 months would love to just have a play button at this point where i can choose how many % of songs should be discovery @GustavS
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Vicente@vicentronics·
"things are always changing and they can change quickly" A few things did not change: - Bitcoin is still 1st in MCap - Eth is still 2nd Other things did change quickly: all the shitcoins that have come and gone, many of which were supposed to be BTC and Ethereum killers. Did you cover any of those, btw?
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Laura Shin
Laura Shin@laurashin·
One additional thought on Ethereum: Another threat to the chain is that it may fare less well in the AI agent race than Solana or Base on purely technical issues — speed, fees — at the very least on volume (I mean, it already is), maybe not for higher value transactions. The AI agent area is fairly soon (for sure in the next few years) going to outstrip the number of human transactions. And what if Base launches its own token, Coinbase spins it off as a decentralized chain rather than an L2 and so the AI agent activity on Base isn’t even generating demand for ETH as a gas token on Base? Also throw in the huge demand there’s going to be for stablecoins. How does value accrue to ETH in that world? I know I made a lot of leaps there, but if there’s anything I’ve learned from covering crypto these last 11 years, it’s that things are always changing and they can change quickly. And with so many players coming at this with a competitive spirit that the Ethereum Foundation disdains, there could be a big shakeup. Just to be clear, I think Ethereum is strong in a lot of ways and that the EF is putting its attention on a lot of smart things: most decentralized, facing quantum threat head on, incorporating privacy, focusing back on the L1 … there’s many reasons to be hopeful. And it all looked even better with Tomasz as ED. (Er, co-ED 😂) But these departures (with more to come) and the lack of attention to the token are concerning. Enough people care that I think new organizations and people will spring up. Whether they will be enough to counteract that EF’s inertia on some issues remains to be seen.
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Vicente@vicentronics·
@LowBeta If Ethereum becomes the platform that secures assets worldwide, ETH market cap has to be greater than the sum of all assets in Ethereum
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Zach Pandl@LowBeta·
Enjoyed the first episode of Bankless 2.0 In my view, if Ethereum the network optimizes for CROPS, $ETH the asset will have a high market value as a scarce digital commodity that circulates as money and collateral across DeFi Interested to find out how the Bankless take evolves
Bankless@Bankless

Why does @TrustlessState feel differently about $ETH today? What changed his mind? "It's what @laurashin said... Ethereum isn't focused on putting points on the scoreboard.. ...parts of Ethereum leadership is adverse to growth.... and it's prohibitive for growth to happen"

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JoshETH.eth 🏦 Chief Ethereum Capital Officer*
Let me get this straight ETH couldn't be valued as a SoV and needed to be valued based on rev. But as if by magic suddenly Zcash is now a SoV and is special? Hyperliquid that's a centralised perp Dex shown during the jellyjelly incident TAM is 600T but it's somehow also special and won't lose market share to lighter,RiseX,Reya etc etc when it has no long term defensible moat? Yeah it's as ridiculous as it sounds, narrative follows price.
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Vicente@vicentronics·
@gabriel1 When you spend too long not listening to music you realize your own brain has its own internal Spotify that keeps playing music for you in your head. It can be entertaining but can also be annoying, especially since you can't really turn it off.
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Vicente@vicentronics·
@laurashin Sticking to principles vs becoming more competitive Coming to think of it, this whole thing does rhyme with the blockchain wars back in the day.
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Laura Shin
Laura Shin@laurashin·
This person is saying I’m “jumping ship from Ethereum”??? Nothing could be further from the truth: I’m expressing concern that the EF doesn’t recognize that the competition is about to become more fierce than ever and it’s not willing to fight for it. That’s not the same. And I think the EF can set CROPS as the guiding light for Ethereum but also say it’s going to fight for those things by focusing on cryptoeconomics and by pushing BD. I don’t think those things are mutually exclusive. In fact, I think crypto economics and BD can help Ethereum win. And I don’t think it’s even controversial to have these views. I think these are obvious things.
ionprime.eth@ProofOf_ion

Listening to David’s explanation of why he sold was pretty mind numbing lol… I recently shared that I was a toxic Bitcoin maximalist for roughly 8 years, from 2017 to late 2024. Stablecoins are what initially made me revisit my thesis on Ethereum, and on ether as Ethereum’s native asset. That, combined with the rapid approach of the agentic economy - a world with an infinite number of autonomous economic actors sending value through stablecoins across a small handful of networks that society has deemed valuable - made me reevaluate further. So I went back and revisited my priors on Ethereum. Were my early concerns around centralization, monetary policy, and network effects still valid after all these years? Surely, yes. I set out to prove myself right. I found out I was wrong. The centralization concerns I had entirely faded. While I was 100% encapsulated in my Bitcoin bubble, Ethereum had slowly, quietly, and relentlessly built the only other WWIII-proof, global, credibly neutral, decentralized protocol. And in some areas, Ethereum had actually become more decentralized than Bitcoin: client diversity, validator distribution, and a secure long-term scaling/security model through proof of stake. Ethereum had matured. It had grown out of its early “shitcoin” association. It had become the only truly permissionless, censorship resistant, credibly neutral, and valuable protocol outside of Bitcoin. It grew up. That matters because the only reason I was ever Bitcoin-only was that, at the time, there were no other networks with the protocol traits that could plausibly make all of global finance, and eventually much of humanity, value them at the deepest level. Back then, it was only Bitcoin. So the irony here is incredible. Just as Ethereum and ether have finally matured, just as Ethereum has distanced itself from the decentralized-in-name-only, venture-backed, fake startup, “we’re hiding behind a blockchain” mentality, now a small group of influencers have decided to become negative on Ethereum. When Bitcoiners use the term “shitcoiner,” this is what they are usually talking about. Bag chasers. People who want their chain to act like a company. Permissioned. Hyper-structured. Marketing team. CEO. Quarterly reports. Revenue. Earnings. Some polished growth narrative for VCs. Basically, a bunch of stupid shit that already exists in the fiat world. The same world Bitcoin, and now Ethereum, were created to help us escape from. To suddenly be disappointed that Ethereum has a broader mandate than “pump my bag,” and is instead focused on hardening the traits that make the network valuable over decades, tells you a lot about how these people misunderstand it. CROPS is the value proposition. Censorship resistance. Resilience. Openness. Permissionlessness. Security. That is why society values Bitcoin. That is why society now values Ethereum. And that is why the Laura Shins, Ansems, and David Hoffmans of the world jumping ship now is so revealing. They are not leaving because the thesis broke. They are leaving because they never had the thesis in the first place. They do not and never have seen the value in decentralized, global, open systems - sanctuary technologies or neutral rails that can materially improve people’s lives. What they have always chased is a high-growth stock equivalent with a smaller market cap. A shiny new object that appears once or twice per cycle; violent upward momentum, narrative, and upside without the patience required to actually understand what is being built. They need to chase because they do not have the time horizon to hold a thesis and let conviction compound over time. CROPS is the entire value proposition. Do not let startup-brain influencers, who never understood why this ecosystem was created in the first place, gaslight you out of conviction.

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Bankless@Bankless·
Why does @TrustlessState feel differently about $ETH today? What changed his mind? "It's what @laurashin said... Ethereum isn't focused on putting points on the scoreboard.. ...parts of Ethereum leadership is adverse to growth.... and it's prohibitive for growth to happen"
Bankless@Bankless

WEEKLY ROLLUP: David Sold All of His $ETH...Why? Crypto’s old leaders are struggling, but new winners are breaking out. @RyanSAdams and @TrustlessState unpack the rise of hyperliquid:native, zcash:native, and $VVV, the macro bear fuel markets are ignoring, the EF talent exodus, and why David selling his last ethereum:native may mark a new era for Ethereum and Bankless. [TIMESTAMPS] 0:00 Intro 3:28 Bear Fuel for Markets & Pockets of Bullishness in Crypto - @KobeissiLetter - @Barchart - @JesseCohenInv - @Strategy - @arkham - @TheBlockCo 21:27 @HyperliquidX, HYPE, and Pre-IPO Price Discovery - @Matt_Hougan - @Geiger_Capital - @tradexyz - @JasonYanowitz - @KobeissiLetter 32:43 Wintermute Opens DeFi Vaults on @Morpho - @wintermute_t 38:12 Trump’s Quantum Bets and U.S. Industrial Policy & Blockchain.com IPO and @Ronin_Network Migrates to Ethereum L2 - @KobeissiLetter 46:34 EF Exodus and Ethereum’s Identity Crisis - @TrustlessState - @drjasper_eth - @tkstanczak - @0xstark - @trent_vanepps - @barnabemonnot - @TimBeiko - @CarlBeek - @_julianma - @DefiIgnas - @josephdelong - @dankrad - @ETH_Daily - @wmougayar 1:00:04 David Sold His ETH and a New Era for Bankless - @TrustlessState - @RyanSAdams Moment of Zen - @ethcforg

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Vicente@vicentronics·
@hosseeb same as ZEC. Shills gonna shill
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Haseeb >|<
Haseeb >|<@hosseeb·
OK guys, someone want to explain the $NEAR pump? Did I miss something?
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Vicente@vicentronics·
@0x0a99 @WuBlockchain hyperliquid is more of a company than a decentralized blockchain. Closed source. 20 something validators.
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A99@0x0a99·
@WuBlockchain Ethereum played its role, like all L1s & L2s have. Their natural cycle is to be replaced by something better - Hyperliquid. Faster, cheaper, better UI. Hyperliquid will rule the next era, until it too gets replaced. Bitcoin remains.
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Wu Blockchain
Wu Blockchain@WuBlockchain·
Bankless Co-Founder David Hoffman Says He Sold the Last of His ETH as Ryan Sean Adams Declares End of Bankless “First Era” David Hoffman said on X that “CT” sentiment has shifted significantly over the past two weeks and that he has sold the last of his ETH. Ryan Sean Adams later said the “first era” of Bankless has concluded, marking the end of their six-year collaboration around crypto, DeFi and Ethereum. He added that Bankless has entered its “second era,” in which he plans to take a more behind-the-scenes role while remaining bullish on ETH and Bankless. x.com/RyanSAdams/sta…
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Vicente@vicentronics·
@Galois_Capital The DAO bailout came first; why is it the second and not the first sin?
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Galois Kevin@Galois_Capital·
The original sin was the gas price crowding out effect from gas competition between apps. The second sin was The DAO bailout. The third sin was PoS. The fourth sin was excessive soyness against a red-shifting cultural backdrop. 3 strikes and you are out. Few.
Laura Shin@laurashin

I think Ethereum’s original sin was not considering tokenomics with every move it made from Dencun on. The ultrasound money thesis was a good one and with Dencun (or the L2 roadmap generally) they should have stopped to say that this was going to hurt the ultrasound money thesis and consider how to preserve it. Most people, like David, don’t want to believe in something that isn’t also putting up points on the scoreboard. When the main offering becomes ideology/communism and money/tokenomics/capitalism are overlooked, the peasants are going to revolt — as they’ve been doing for two years now. Look at the public reaction to Tomasz: broad praise, a sense of hope, excitement, the price pumping … only for him to be gone a year later with the new ED being someone who cannot even be found online except for a Wayback Machine url with his name that has some really questionable statements on it (and I should say the EF denied that this website, which was taken down a few weeks after he was appointed to the board, is his). They’re going to be really mad at me for even mentioning that but in the place of a void, these are the kinds of things people will glom onto. Then there was the manifesto — I mean, mandate, which they backtracked on forcing people to sign. (Btw, this is the second bit of news that seems to relate to Bastian. And now the third would be all these departures. There’s nothing else for us to point at and say about him — when I searched for his name on Google News just now only 14 links came up. He seems to be some kind of invisible hand behind the scenes.) I don’t think ideology and capitalism/tokenomics/number go up are mutually exclusive. I think you can have CROPS values and also consider how each step of the roadmap affects the tokenomics and even have teams for BD/ecosystem growth. It feels like the EF doesn’t realize the moment that crypto is in. The competition is only just starting. We are in the phase of real world adoption. The Ethereum Foundation’s CROPS principles are great ones, and they are worth fighting for. But the EF seems to want to sit back on its laurels and act above it all when all its competitors are all getting down and dirty on the field to gain market share. Maybe it is the right approach. I don’t know. I’m just saying that more competitive people won’t align with it. And so they will leave … and community members will as well. I personally don’t think it’s good for Ethereum if its most competitive people depart. Ethereum’s unwillingness to stop the brain drain will only benefit its competitors — or spawn new ones. Giving a shit about price and tokenomics and BD doesn’t hurt CROPS. It just helps ensure that these principles get spread to more people and that other chains that don’t have these principles don’t get a leg up. All the commentary may be pointless. It seems Vitalik tried what everyone wanted and it didn’t align with his vision, so he brought in a new person he felt more comfortable with. It makes me sad to see people become so disaffected with Ethereum, but maybe this is V’s Brian Armstrong/no politics at Coinbase moment where he lays down what the EF will work on and asks everyone else to leave. That was the right move for Coinbase, but I view them as fundamentally different issues. We’ll see whether Ethereum maintains its lead with a foundation that isn’t willing to fight for it.

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Vicente@vicentronics·
natural selection should fix the birth rate problem eventually: - a culture that is somehow capable of passing its values along to the next generations with minimal corruption; or - some genetic trait that makes people want to have babies Probably a combination of both. We wont be alive to see it though; natural selection takes a long time
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Pat Stedman | Dating & Relationship Coach for Men
This analysis is sound but the conclusion is wrong, because the having kids is increasingly becoming a culture into itself. In the 90s we had a monoculture, now that is fragmenting and people are being drawn to microtribes. This is a consequential cultural shift. So yes there are no guarantees that the kids of your average, unconscious family who had a couple kids will choose to have a couple kids as well. But the kids raised in religious or natalist households - who are virtually the only ones popping out 4+ today - will have a very different attitude towards them, because family-formation for these groups has essentially become ideological.
More Births@MoreBirths

For all those who think that the low birthrate problem will just fix itself naturally: · Japan had a TFR of 1.4 in 1995. · Now the children of "people that wanted kids" are 30 and the TFR was 1.1 in 2025. I look at why fertility isn't genetically self-correcting below.

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Pat Stedman | Dating & Relationship Coach for Men
Can't find a more accurate caricature of the archetype. Girl dads overly bond to their daughters because of their wives' emotional and sexual neglect. Their daughters earn their fathers' approval through academic and career success, and struggle to maintain relationships because they have been told their whole life no man is ever good enough for them. Although it seems strange, these dads will turn a blind eye to their daughter's promiscuity because a one night stand or fling doesn't affect their primary bond with her. Some even tacitly cheer her on as she constantly shifts her roster of men, pointing out their inadequacy and encouraging her "not to settle." This perversion, which is a form of incest, was historically more common with mothers and their sons - the devouring mother, which produced both mommas boys and seducers. But the weakness of men under feminism is so pervasive that this type of woman has now become endemic since the boomer generation. No wonder so many modern women are so entitled - their fathers raised them to act this way.
Toad Town Nationalist@ToadTownPatriot

If you even THINK about my daughter, you’re in for a world of ass rape. My sweet baby angel just got accepted to ASU for nursing 😻 this Papa Bear couldnt be any prouder

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Goodlyfe@jollygoodlyfe·
my body revolts i try to negotiate with me to have intimacy with an objectively hot blonde but i reject her as a person bc im resentful at myself for allowing her disrespect in the first place, i dont want to encourage her further by saying everything is okay, i love you, see i sleep with you i revolt. can’t do it. cognitive dissonance.
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Goodlyfe@jollygoodlyfe·
analysis what led to break up in the end i felt hollowed out, too much giving on my side, never ending demands on her side, nagging as whip at some point i figured it out, realized im very weak bc spent, need to assess the status quo and save myself by pushing out everything that drains my energy mistakes on my part were, not repeat no, and when necessary to reapeat a no, enforce it by not complying amateur mistake was not to allocate a certain time for everything i am active in. work hobbies family relationships being sympathetic to her i complied with her love bombing and neediness, essentially outsourcing her needs to me, now they are a need on top of my valid ones, time is limited, something has to give, i gave from me to her i neglected myself, the pathological frame leaked over to work, from there back to everything else, it spread contagiously loosing everywhere weakened me death by a thousand cuts the arrogance of the strong is ones thinking that one is invincible you aren’t. you leak and leak and leak. until survival. then. at the bottom. you face a decision. die or take the leap of faith and abandon your made up dreams of being “good” to be actually truly good for you. the motor of it all. but you abused it. now it malfunctions. you used stimulants, burning out. stop. no dreams. what’s the matter? i don’t like that. okay fine it’s out. i don’t like him or her. out. better? a bit. what next? no dreams no story what is the issue in reality rn? that and that. done. next. winning starts. in that time she became more quiet and submissive. so everything good? no. the elephant in room was i don’t want to have sex with her. i don’t want intimacy. it feels wrong. something isn’t right. i don’t need a girlfriend i don’t want to be intimate with and only hide. so let’s just be frens. peace. and lots to do. - journal, write down every sting you feel and disregard, subconsciously you already mapping it, it just nags at your brain, hidden, write it down, in the open, then align your feels with what you observed, really dig your instinct don’t negotiate a story to make your instincts neutered -allocate time for you and your endeavors, ruthlessly. no time for others then no time for others, or make up free time on your terms. say it, i have 2 hours per week for fun. she down, cool. she not down, cool. don’t say yes then be resentful that you have time issues and can’t relax -what and how was behavior and frame that enabled your own suffering through the hands of others? -what was the first concession, the toughest one, then the others were easier, what lead to you selling out on yourself? -what made you abandon the frame and behavior that led to you being attractive in the first place (hint external validation/acceptance/love/admiration from outside) -clear the rooms you’re in, one by one -look for openings, revert from banging against walls, it’s an energy sink, that reaffirms you lost at this wall then your confidence sinks at another wall -be quiet, asses reality -what made you react? what is making you lose composure, that wound is the origin, follow the pain backwards, clear and heal that wound -what made you abandon what was good for you like sports nutrition and hobbies family and frens? -what made you give up, hint to many walls at same time. -what do you want? - let’s go
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Vicente@vicentronics·
@zeeg I am getting the complete opposite experience. I have managed to refactor legacy code I would never have touched otherwise (with minimal to no regressions). Code quality for me has never been better. That said, I review each and every line of code the LLM outputs.
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David Cramer
David Cramer@zeeg·
My brain is fried this week from trying to solve some of the complexity LLMs are generating to little success. At this moment in time it definitely feels like writing software is _harder_ in many situations. More taxing mentally.
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Vicente@vicentronics·
8/ The devs who will win with AI aren't the ones who prompt the hardest. They're the ones who keep their codebases clean enough that the AI can actually help. Old skill. New stakes.
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Vicente@vicentronics·
7/ The LLM doesn't save you from software engineering fundamentals. It amplifies them. Clean code → better AI output → faster iteration. Messy code → confused AI → you're stuck debugging AI-generated spaghetti at 2am.
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Vicente@vicentronics·
1/ In the age of LLMs, writing maintainable code is more important than ever. Not less. More. Here's why 🧵
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