@politicalelle We told you what would happen and nobody listened. It was clear what the response would be considering previously devastating rounds like Cast Lead.
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SotaiR
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The “protests” against Israel began, I kid you not, three days after October 7–before Israel ever lifted a finger in response. How do I know that? Because college campuses were *teeming* with this “honor the martyrs” nonsense. I litigated it. The college left is broken.
Now, enter the psyop of the Podcast space, which is swimming in foreign dollars invested in torturing and twisting our relationship with easily our most reliable ally because it makes us weaker to the benefit of our adversaries.
Europe has no backbone and continues to play footsie with its new Islamist base because it imported Third World politics.
This isn’t “Bibi.” For thousands of years, people have hated Jews, blamed Jews, ostracized Jews. Three hundred years ago in Germany, Jews couldn’t marry unless another Jew died because the government wanted to limit the very existence of Jews. In fifteenth century Morocco, Jews couldn’t wear shoes. Meanwhile, you think you’ve stumbled on some new phenomenon that Bibi, by fighting a seven-front war for the survival of half the world’s Jewish population, created.
Iran murdered 30K to 50K of its own people in a matter of weeks, and it’s gotten less public condemnation. I’ll let you figure out why.
Jill Filipovic@JillFilipovic
Bibi didn’t just torch support for Israel in the US; he squandered every shred of goodwill Israel ever had, made the country an international pariah, and led the slaughter of thousands of innocents. One of the most disastrous leaders any country has seen in my lifetime.
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Can we just accept that no one is required to support the winner of a party primary and the nominee has to earn their support? That's just a clear reality, even if we'd prefer otherwise.
Nathan Bernard@nathanTbernard
Janet Mills surrogates are announcing they will not vote for Platner if he is the Democratic nominee. Apparently the tent is only big enough for Schumer's hand-picked candidates.
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Bibi didn't doom the relationship by (failing to) destroy Hamas.
He weakened it over fifteen years. The 2015 Congress speech. The Trump embrace over Democratic presidents. Betting the alliance on Evangelicals. The judicial overhaul. Ben Gvir and Smotrich in government.
Then he kept weakening it for two and a half years of war. Hostage deals sabotaged for his coalition. Tens of thousands of civilian deaths. A war without an endgame.
Collapsing all of that into one moment is not a serious analysis.
Peter Savodnik@petersavodnik
Bibi did nothing to affect the U.S.-Israeli relationship. The relationship was doomed — or, at least, destined for a long stretch of uncertainty and wobbliness — the moment the Jewish state declared its intention to end Hamas.
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@nathanTbernard Let them not vote. We don't need radical centrist Zionists to achieve victory. We need a powerful message that centers the working class and disavows corporate money starting with AIPAC.
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Janet Mills surrogates are announcing they will not vote for Platner if he is the Democratic nominee. Apparently the tent is only big enough for Schumer's hand-picked candidates.
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It’s cool for leftists to not endorse liberals, but when we reciprocate the same energy, yall wanna cry.
Our Revolution@OurRevolution
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NBC Poll: 74% of Gen Z sympathize more with Palestinians than Israelis. 75% of Democrats sympathize more with Palestinians than Israelis. @SteveKornacki
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@TomerPersico Being unable to actually read works written by those who don't agree with you is a sign of low intelligence. Basing a book review off of an internet article is even more stupid. But yeah tell me more about the "shoddy scholarship" random Internet person.
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Claiming the “state ideology of Zionism” had to bring about what happened in Gaza is no different then saying the Palestinian national movement had to end in October 7th. It would be a lazy man’s version of historical analysis if it weren’t specifically intended to indict the subject at hand, in this case Israel. One would never entertain the notion that what happened in Rwanda was predetermined or that 9/11 is an unavoidable result of Islam, but there is a specific need to damn Zionism as a distilment of the entire West’s colonialism and racism (and for some reason, capitalism), thus having Jews serve as the sacrificial offering through which Western progressives absolve themselves of civilizational guilt. This reeks of antizionism, bad faith and shoddy scholarship.
The New Yorker@NewYorker
The Israeli historian Omer Bartov argues in his new book that a “state ideology” of Zionism has led to what he calls genocide in Gaza. newyorker.com/culture/the-ne…
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@DanFriedman81 Let me just put this cart in front of that horse. Job done, hasbara complete.
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People don’t hate Jews because they hate Israel. They hate Israel because they hate Jews. And the recent rapid political shifts are not happening because Netanyahu failed, they are happening because organized American Jewry failed.
We believed that building an America that was safe and welcoming for all would build an America that was safe and welcoming for us, but the truth is that the people we welcomed — the third world so many of us foolishly supported importing — despise us, and as their numbers rise and the face of America changes, our position erodes.
Third worldism is explicitly antisemitic because the third world is antisemitic, and mass migration from the third world is mass importation of antisemitism. The reason the younger cohort of Americans are anti-Israel isn’t because of anything Israel did, it’s a simple matter of demographics.
The Jewish people have enemies and always will. We can extend the olive branch to them. We can preach tolerance. We can try to build bridges. None of that matters, just like it didn’t when organizations and movements progressive Jews offered allyship to and thought would reciprocate abandoned us to support Hamas on October 7, 2023.
Our enemies will firebomb Jewish-owned businesses and shoot at synagogues, and when they outnumber us we won’t have any protection from the state. And no amount of peace, love and understanding will dissuade them.
Jewish safety is only possible within certain social parameters, and those parameters have been crossed throughout Europe, in Canada and in New York City. It will happen all over America unless we do something quickly to stop it.
We have to reconsider what we very recently thought were core Jewish values. We have to quickly recognize who our enemies are and what the new threat to us is, and shift our advocacy for the fight we’re facing. We can’t keep tilting at the windmill of “white supremacy” or the far right.
If we don’t make America great again, they’ll make America into a place we can’t live.
Barak Ravid@BarakRavid
Bibi torched U.S. support for Israel for a generation. Older Republicans and white Evangelicals are the last groups to hold majority favorable views of Israel, according to recent Pew polling, @AndrewSolender and Justin Green write for @axios axios.com/2026/04/18/isr…
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This has generally been my experience as a liberal Zionist since October 7th. The blue-haired progressives are “experts” on a conflict they aren’t connected to and definitely don’t understand, whereas you can have nuanced convos with Arabs bc they know the stakes.
Wolfietron@Burneraccount81
We are quickly heading to a place where middle eastern Arabs will have a more nuanced and reasonable view of Israel than White liberals in America. I'm not even a little bit kidding.
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@anaraintuitive Because Zionism is a disgusting ideology that must be destroyed. An ideology based on ethnic cleansing and genocide. Who cares about his language when he is a consistent voice of opposition to the forces of evil, aka Israel. Fuck you and your shitty genocidal pariah state.
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Hasan is abusive to animals, women, Black people, Jews, Asians. His speech is offensive, vulgar, puerile. He glazes the most abusive authoritarian dictators on the planet, while denigrating America. Democrats should embrace him whyyyyy??? 🥶😰😱
Assemblyman Tri Ta@TriTa4CA
Hasan Piker’s remarks about Vietnamese refugees are deeply offensive and cannot go unanswered. Those who have chosen to campaign alongside him, and anyone on the political left who has remained silent, are enabling this kind of rhetoric. They have a responsibility to speak out and make clear that it is unacceptable. Here in Little Saigon, I will not stay silent when my community is targeted. We expect better from those who seek to represent and engage with our community.
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@K_AminThaabet Settlements have expanded under every Israeli government, including the left wing ones. Hell the guy who signed the Oslo accords famously ordered the IDF to break the bones of protestors during the first intifada. Fuck you.
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Israel had a massive left-wing movement and left wing governments. They tried earnestly for years to make peace, and received suicide bombings in return. Because for the Palestinian “partner” the peace process was tactical, not strategic.
Somehow this is all forgotten today.
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@hutchinson I guess we are lucky that the election isn't held in the current moment then aren't we?
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“Why not try to court his vote and bring him into the tent?”
What is the point of doing that when AOC’s chances of being the nominee are exceedingly low in the current moment? He is telling you straight up that chances are quite high that he will not support the 2028 dem.
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I don’t know what it means to say you’re trying to help democrats beat republicans when the only democrat you commit to voting for in the 2028 *general* is AOC.
Guys I don’t want to be unfair here but it sounds like Hasan Piker is not actually trying to beat republicans :/
Marco Foster@MarcoFoster_
Hasan Piker on 2028 candidates Rahm Emanuel: “No” Gavin Newsom: “No” JD Vance: “Absolutely no. I will never vote for a Republican, ever” Gretchen Whitmer: “Maybe. She’s to anti-M4A, but more responsive. I’m 50/50” AOC: “Yes” Tucker Carlson: “No” Cory Booker: “No. Absolutely not” Jon Ossoff: “Again, interesting candidate. Maybe” Kamala Harris: “Oh God. No” Pete Buttigieg: “No”
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@mikepompeo You are a genocide apologist and a warmonger. Who the fuck cares what you have to say?
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The Democrats are becoming the party of antisemites and terrorist apologists.
freebeacon.com/democrats/excl…
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@ElliotMalin @TheDemocrats Fun fact, everyone despises the outsized influence money has on politics. I prefer my leaders chase votes and not money, but in this country we equate money with votes. No amount of money is worth supporting genocide while preaching freedom and equality. Fuck you.
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Fun fact: Jews are historically 50% of @TheDemocrats national donor base.
Lloyd S Carroll@LloydCarroll
@PanasonicDX4500 The Dems will enjoy a Blue Wave in 2026 no matter what, but hating on Israel as the Dems' key issue won't play well in 2028. The DNC is having financail issues. I wonder why.
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@karen1smith1 I also care more about funding and supporting genocide than politics centering the working class. I would much rather Israelis have all the bombs they need to kill children and medical workers than make sure my neighbors have healthcare and housing.
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I am voting for Haley Stevens, but if El-Sayed wins the primary, I will be voting for the Republican for the first time in my life.
(((Harry Enten)))@ForecasterEnten
El-Sayed gaining in the Mich Senate race is emblematic of the Dem Party at-large on Israel. There's really no divide on Israel with Dem voters. Dramatic shifts to basically uniformly negative. Israel's net favorable is -54 pts or worse with young, old, liberal & moderate Dems.
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@ContraPoints Don't touch my money! I made it fair and square, fuck everyone else. I'm Natalie Wynn and genocide is bad but can you please stop talking about it?
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Belligerent misogynists who want to yell at women all day are like 30% of the electorate. Wife-beaters, live-streamers, that whole genre of guy. Maybe he really can help the Democrats.
RNC Research@RNCResearch
Democrat spokesperson Hasan Piker goes off on a Vietnamese refugee who escaped communism: "Shut the fuck up you stupid fucking idiotic old lady." "Suck my dick old lady." "Fuck this south Vietnamese motherfucking...psychotic fucking refugee!" This is the Democrat Party.
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@Evan_Rosenfeld They are praying that the next Israeli government will be more quiet while conducting their crimes against humanity. Being against the genocidal apartheid state is not radical, it's mainstream. The elite must adapt or perish electorally.
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Democrats are trying to buy time on Israel by making Netanyahu the whole issue.
It is a way to appease an increasingly radical part of their base without admitting how far that base has moved from even conditional support for the U.S.-Israel alliance.
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@John_Faker And yet here you are wasting time and energy on him for some reason.
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Hasan averages between 20-30,000 viewers for his streams.
Half are not American and a non zero number are view bots.
The dems are catering to someone who may only have 5-10k American voters and many of them are the same people every day
Josh Kraushaar@JoshKraushaar
“International audiences lower the bar even further; only about half of Hasan’s audience is American. Ezra Klein is ready to embrace Piker as an important voice within the Democratic coalition based on his popular appeal, but a significant fraction of that appeal is to audiences who can’t even vote in American elections.”
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@petersavodnik Id rather be a neanderthal than a fucking Epstein Island pedophile that also enjoys bombing and starving children with a side hustle of denying the crimes and screaming "Jew hater" at everyone who doesn't like my bombing and starvation.
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This neatly encapsulates the moral crisis that has gripped much of the Democratic Party -- with McMorrow now attacking AIPAC after having singled out one of her rivals, a few weeks ago, for being antisemitic. She seems not to grasp that you cannot have it both ways, that trying to do so is actually worse than just being on the side of the neanderthals.
Mallory McMorrow@MalloryMcMorrow
There’s a lot of misinformation out there, so let me be clear. I have not, am not, and will not take money from AIPAC.
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