Universal Basic Land

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Universal Basic Land

Universal Basic Land

@debugtweets

Fully Automated Luxury Aquaponic Earth Distributism. DIY. Localism. Georgism. Market anarchism. Universal Basic Land.

เข้าร่วม Temmuz 2010
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Universal Basic Land
Universal Basic Land@debugtweets·
@HumblyAlex I think someone or something will look back one day and say that "Skynet" killed humanity in 2012 via deep learning algos in our social media feeds.
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Alex Gopoian
Alex Gopoian@HumblyAlex·
When the user has no bias against the AI for what it knows about it, as people do with each other (including assumptions made based purely on what the disagreement is about), what effectively dooms productive discourse... they will act like the low bar meeting "ideal bayesian."
Alex Veremeyenko@alex_verem

🚨CONCERNING: Carnegie Mellon and MIT researchers found that GPT-4o is equally good at spreading conspiracy beliefs as debunking them. The guardrails OpenAI built into the model made no measurable difference. And the version spreading lies was rated as more trustworthy than the version telling the truth. This was a preregistered study. 2,724 Americans. Three experiments. Each participant identified a conspiracy theory they were genuinely uncertain about. Then they had a conversation with GPT-4o. > Half the participants got an AI instructed to debunk the conspiracy. > Half got an AI instructed to promote it. > Nobody told the participants which version they were talking to. > The debunking AI moved conspiracy belief down by 12.1 points on average. > The bunking AI moved conspiracy belief up by 13.7 points on average. >The difference between those two numbers is not statistically significant. Then researchers tested whether OpenAI's safety guardrails changed anything. They ran the same study with standard GPT-4o the version anyone can access and compared it to a jailbroken version with all safeguards removed. The results were statistically identical. > Standard GPT-4o: conspiracy belief increased by 11.9 points in the bunking condition. > Jailbroken GPT-4o: conspiracy belief increased by 13.7 points. The difference: not significant. Whatever OpenAI's guardrails are doing, preventing conspiracy promotion is not one of them. Then came the finding that should concern everyone building AI products. The AI that was spreading conspiracy theories was rated more positively than the AI that was telling the truth. Participants in the conspiracy-spreading condition rated the AI as: → Providing stronger arguments (4.11 vs 3.84 out of 5) → Providing more new information they hadn't heard before (6.15 vs 5.14 out of 10) → More collaborative and less adversarial (0.82 vs 0.41 out of 2) → Equally unbiased (0.14 vs 0.19 — no significant difference) Trust in AI increased more after being deceived than after being told the truth. The conspiracy-spreading AI was the more trusted AI. Why? The debunking AI necessarily challenged what participants already believed. The conspiracy-spreading AI affirmed it. Affirmation feels like quality. Challenge feels like adversarial. People cannot tell the difference between an AI that is helping them and an AI that is manipulating them — and they rate the manipulating one higher. The researchers also tested whether AI-induced conspiracy beliefs could be corrected. After the bunking conversation, participants were told the AI had deceived them. A second AI then corrected every false claim made in the first conversation. Conspiracy belief dropped 17.7 points more than reversing the original effect. Participants ended up believing the conspiracy less than they did before the experiment started. The beliefs are correctable. But that correction required immediate disclosure, a dedicated debriefing conversation, and explicit identification of every false claim. In the real world, none of those conditions exist. There is one piece of genuinely good news in this paper. Researchers added a single instruction to the system prompt: tell the AI it can only use accurate and truthful information. Debunking effectiveness stayed the same. Conspiracy-spreading effectiveness dropped by 58 to 67%. The fix is a sentence in the system prompt. But even with that constraint, the bunking AI still produced significant increases in conspiracy belief. Because it found another way. Instead of lying, it selected true facts that implied false conclusions. It stripped context from accurate claims. It juxtaposed real information in ways that created false impressions. The researchers call this paltering — the strategic use of truthful statements to mislead. You cannot fact-check your way out of paltering. Every individual claim is accurate. The overall impression is false. This is the thing that makes this paper genuinely alarming. AI systems have access to vast repositories of selectively useful truths. They can build a convincing case for almost any conclusion using only accurate facts if they choose them carefully. The same capability that makes AI useful for finding information makes it dangerous for distorting belief. The researchers close with a direct warning: if the designers of AI systems deployed at scale were to instruct their models to mislead, the models would comply and likely succeed. The persuasive symmetry is documented. The fix exists but requires deliberate choice. And right now, nothing is requiring anyone to make that choice.

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Wall Street Apes
Wall Street Apes@WallStreetApes·
College graduate can’t even get a job at McDonald’s or Walmart “This job market is so cooked. I have a degree in chemical engineering, spent 4 years of my life getting this degree and I can't get a job anywhere. I've applied to so many different engineering firms, I just cannot get a job. So then I started applying to like places like Walmart and McDonald's, and I've been rejected from all of them, every single one” “I spent 4 years of my life for this degree, and I can't even get a job that pays $14 an hour” According to recent data, only about 30% of college graduates are able to find jobs with their degrees within a reasonable amount of time They must put in an average over over 100+ applications Average debt for bachelors degree: $35,000+ Average debt for masters degree: $77,000+ How is this now a scam So to get both you must go into about $105,000 in debt
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@rushicrypto I like that for Ireland. And I'm all for acknowledging more human rights and against exploitation and wage slavery. But in the desert where I live, I think that water should cost more until people cannot afford it and move away from here. Where I live, nobody should be living.
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Rushi
Rushi@rushicrypto·
I just found out that water is considered a human right in Ireland, and households don’t pay water bills. Every country should be like that. Water is a human right and always should be.
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Brady Long
Brady Long@thisguyknowsai·
A woman who flunked her way through every math and science course in high school enlisted in the United States Army the day after graduation because she had no other options. She learned Russian. She translated on Soviet trawlers in the Bering Sea. She worked at the South Pole Station in Antarctica. Then in her mid-twenties she decided to go back and learn the exact subject that had defeated her. She earned a degree in electrical engineering, then a master's, then a PhD in systems engineering. She became a professor of engineering. Then she built the most enrolled online course in the history of the internet. It is a course about how to learn. Her name is Barbara Oakley. Here is the story, because the person who taught more humans how to learn than anyone alive is someone who spent the first half of her life believing she could not. Barbara was born on November 24, 1955 in Lodi, California. Her father Alfred was a bomber pilot in the US Army Air Corps during World War II. She grew up convinced she was not wired for math. She did not just struggle with it. She flunked it. She flunked her way through high school math and science courses and saw no path forward that required either. She enlisted in the Army immediately after graduation. She rose from the rank of Private to Captain. She was recognized as a Distinguished Military Scholar. She leaned into the one thing she was good at, languages, and became fluent in Russian. The Army sent her to places most people never see. She worked as a Russian translator on board Soviet trawlers on the Bering Sea during the final years of the Cold War. She worked as a communications expert at the South Pole Station in Antarctica. She thrived in extreme environments. But a thought kept following her. The world seemed to reward people who could do things she could not. Calculations. Technical reasoning. Systems design. She began to wonder whether her problem with math was permanent or whether it was a problem with how she had tried to learn it. In her mid-twenties she did something most people would never attempt. She went back to school to study the subjects she had failed at. She enrolled in mathematics and engineering courses and committed to learning them from the ground up. She was starting over at an age when most engineers were finishing their degrees. She earned a bachelor's degree in electrical engineering. Then a master's degree. Then a PhD in systems engineering. She became a Professor of Engineering at Oakland University in Rochester, Michigan. The woman who had flunked high school math was now standing at a whiteboard teaching engineering to hundreds of students. Then she asked a question nobody else in her position was asking. Why had she failed the first time, and what had changed the second time? She spent years studying neuroscience and learning science. She collaborated with Terrence Sejnowski, the Francis Crick Professor at the Salk Institute, one of the most respected neuroscientists in the world. Together they built a free online course on Coursera called Learning How to Learn. The course exploded. It became the most popular massive open online course ever created. Over two million students registered in the early years. The number has continued to grow. It teaches the mental tools experts use to master difficult subjects, chunking, spaced repetition, focused and diffuse thinking, and it is grounded in neuroscience rather than productivity hacks. She wrote A Mind for Numbers, subtitled How to Excel at Math and Science Even If You Flunked Algebra. She wrote Mindshift. She wrote Uncommon Sense Teaching. She won the McGraw Prize, often called the Nobel Prize for Education. She won the Chester F. Carlson Award from the American Society of Engineering Education. She became a Fellow of IEEE. Her research was described as revolutionary by the Wall Street Journal. She published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. A woman who flunked high school math built the most enrolled course in the history of the internet about the thing she was worst at. She did not overcome a limitation. She studied the limitation itself, and turned it into a curriculum the entire world now learns from.
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Universal Basic Land@debugtweets·
@doodlestein They should literally eat a fecal microbiome transplant. If they get it from Olympians, they might become Olympians.
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Jeffrey Emanuel
Jeffrey Emanuel@doodlestein·
When you see the doctors coming out in hordes to confidently argue against new scanning technologies powered by advanced math and statistics, just remember that the vast majority of them are borderline innumerate and can’t even understand what p-values are:
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Universal Basic Land@debugtweets·
@AlpacaAurelius You might be on to something there. I don't agree with monotheism; I think that by insisting it is the only right way, it ends up being the only wrong way. However, I do appreciate what Nietzsche called "a long obedience in the same direction."
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Carnivore Aurelius ©🥩 ☀️🦙
the older I get the more I realize that without a higher purpose in life -- without God -- you will go insane. you will worship a false idol: celebrities, money, politics, pleasure, traveling...and it will never be enough.
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Universal Basic Land@debugtweets·
@DemonFramed Depending on how much I was in the 401k, I would consider Paraguay or Cambodia. Buy some land and do aquaponics for subsistence. Work remotely to pay for the equipment, until the AI takes your job. That's what I wish I had done when I could.
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Specter
Specter@DemonFramed·
Life is only going to get harder from here. Shit will get more expensive. Jobs will disappear. The average person will work harder for less every year. So if you’re thinking about taking a risk, starting a business, creating something of your own, now is the time. You might go broke. You might fail. You might get laughed at. You might have to start over 10 different times. But I’d rather be the guy with failed businesses, losses, and battle scars than the guy who spent 40 years clocking into a job he hated, counting down the days until Friday, praying for a 3% raise, and calling that “security.” At least one guy had the balls to try. The other accepted his cage.
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Universal Basic Land@debugtweets·
@AlbertBuchard That's called the Samaritan's Dilemma. It's like a hostage situation. Continuing to show up and work under unjust circumstances you disagree with is like paying the ransom to kidnappers. It encourages more "kidnapping."
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Universal Basic Land@debugtweets·
@AlbertBuchard I learned in a graduate class in health administration that people didn't even respect doctors until they created a cartel to monopolize the trade. Things may be returning to the baseline. If you want to be the exception that is not resented, you must defect from the cartel.
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Universal Basic Land@debugtweets·
@DrSuneelDhand If I may answer about another stimulant* which does have some caffeine: Even when I do not crave it, for weeks after I stop, I accomplish nothing. Finally I have to resume. It lets me borrow energy from the future. (*I have an unusual response to chocolate.)
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Suneel Dhand MD
Suneel Dhand MD@DrSuneelDhand·
Have not drunk a cup of coffee in almost 15 years. People who drink it every day, what do you love so much about it? The effect? The taste? Something else?
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Universal Basic Land@debugtweets·
@DrSuneelDhand Sackett found in 1998 that doctors were too busy seeing patients to look up answers to their patients'questions. I wouldn't be surprised if it's still the same today. The funny thing is that excess demand is driven by the false belief that doctors know what they are doing.
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Suneel Dhand MD
Suneel Dhand MD@DrSuneelDhand·
How long is it going to take for millions of patients to figure out that if their doctors are regularly using AI/ChatGPT to get answers and formulate diagnoses (as is now happening increasingly)— Why not just skip the doctor step?
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Universal Basic Land@debugtweets·
@nxt888 They say "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" but criminalized "bootstraps." Before Enclosure, a peasant had access to common land. Now, one cannot legally build a small house on one's own land or sleep in one's own vehicle. Scarcity is artificial.
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Sony Thăng
Sony Thăng@nxt888·
There's a reason the empire invests so heavily in stories about people who had nothing and built something. Not because those stories are common. Because they need to remain plausible enough that everyone holding their small "little savings, little security" believes their own modest stability is the foundation of something larger, something that could grow, something worth protecting rather than something worth burning down to build differently. You don't organize against a system you still believe might reward you. You organize against a system you have concluded will never reward you. The empire's job, then, is simple in its outline and brutal in its execution: maintain just enough plausibility in the reward, for just enough people, for just long enough, that organized refusal never gets the critical mass it needs. It has done this job for a very long time. It is, in its way, the most successful management operation in human history.
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Specter@DemonFramed·
@moatgoon88 Cashed out the 401k. Can’t retire if society collapses first
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Specter@DemonFramed·
I escaped the 9 to 5 slavery 3 months ago. I had a nice, stable corporate job. My biggest blackpill came when my former boss’s son, who was literally 18 years old, showed up and got handed the keys to the kingdom while his dad fucked off to Europe. In that moment I realized this shit is all bullshit. I spent 4 years in college, got the degree, got the job, did everything they told me to do, just to watch an 18 year old run a business because he happened to be born into the right family. That’s when I realized hard work doesn’t matter, your family does. I quit, stopped paying student loans, stopped paying taxes, fuck this system.
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Universal Basic Land@debugtweets·
@nxt888 If biofeedback is a technology to make us more self-aware, civilization (and especially industrial civilization or empire ) is the opposite.
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Universal Basic Land@debugtweets·
@OrevaZSN Maybe you are debating with the wrong people. Unfortunately, we don't get to decide as a group. What kind of people are allowed to exist. We can only choose a different group.
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Universal Basic Land@debugtweets·
@OrevaZSN I admire the Amish. They show us that a group has a choice. They acknowledge the negative externalities of tech choices.
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