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Japan เข้าร่วม Temmuz 2009
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Oathgate@oathgate1·
@aerikurakgae That person is saying the opposite and that’s not even what the interview said it said this
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Danny ⚠︎
Danny ⚠︎@aerikurakgae·
is that bad,,😭😭😭 it’s the final game they do technically have to create discussion and tension to secure sales also i don’t think it’s a gigantic spoiler that it’s not gonna be just like og
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nui 🍏
nui 🍏@yvesaeris·
if you are not an aerith fan just stop talking about her ???
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midgardeners17
midgardeners17@midgardeners27·
Nobody seems to talk about these clips, so I’m going to! I firmly believe these are a “sequel” to 7R. More specifically, I think these clips bridge the gap between OG & when 7R starts. “Hope can turn your dreams into reality” is going to be the core & origin of 7R!
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@DirkEZM @Monsterbf1Ilove My biggest source for this is actually from a random FF Mobius crossover event, lol. It was created by the 7R devs & released a year before Remake. The title at the end even changes into Remake, which to me implies it’s meant to directly tie in.

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Oathgate
Oathgate@oathgate1·
@midgardeners27 Holy cow, did they tell us how this is all going to end with this random mobile game?
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midgardeners17
midgardeners17@midgardeners27·
I just think these clips are very interesting and have a lot of implications for 7R—not just how it all began, but what the story is all about this time. And it’s a shame I don’t see more people talking about them!
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Oathgate
Oathgate@oathgate1·
@NostalgiaVerse7 I mean this interview isn’t denying or confirming anything and his answer the other day was basically yes and no as he said both could be true. None of us know right now. It could be a tandem story. Also “remake” doesn’t mean “remaster” let’s just see what happens
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NostalgiaVerse☄
NostalgiaVerse☄@NostalgiaVerse7·
A big part of OG FFVII is subverting player expectations. They did it so well in ReTrilogy that some people believe its a Sequel. Those are the ones whos minds will be blown the most when its actually a Remake because they cant even wrap their head around other possibilities.
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Oathgate
Oathgate@oathgate1·
@KenMastersUSA @Ght16Miguel @_SpyDtroid_ So what if they do a multiple worlds ending. Let’s go out on a limb here and say they attempt an everyone is happy scenario. Cloti world, zerith world, clerith world, animal crossing cozy farm world, etc. Would Aeriths gossip with each other?
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Ken Masters
Ken Masters@KenMastersUSA·
@Ght16Miguel @_SpyDtroid_ Right, Omni!Aerith is OG Aerith, it's the same Aerith we see at the end of OG and in Advent Children. I suspect, given how the Lifestream works, any Aerith with the White Materia would be "aware" of this, so I guess the "speak" in this way? They are the same person, after all.
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Spy-D‼️|@_SpyDtroid_·
DAMN AERITH IS ACTUALLY JUST FULL ON CONFESSING TO CLOUD?? AND, not only that, I find it heartbreaking that she tells Cloud not to fall in love with her, and that those feelings aren’t real. She has to know how her fate ends right? Is this her preparing him for it?
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Oathgate
Oathgate@oathgate1·
@Aru22Gure Would you be sad if he could save her but he had to sacrifice his own chance ?
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あるぐれ
あるぐれ@Aru22Gure·
エアリスの運命はザックスにかかっているので本当にもうザックスは何とかしてください。元はエアリス単騎強化担の私がザクエア厨なのはひとえにエアリスお任せできるのがザックスしかおらんと解釈しているからです。マジでザックスは何とかしろ、何とかしろてくださいぃぃーーーっ!!
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The Landi Lodge
The Landi Lodge@LandiLodge·
@KenMastersUSA @ffSteeD27 Midgar living in harmony and AC happening are not mutually exclusive. Both can happen. Explain to me why AC happening and then within 500 years Midgar finds a way to live in harmony with the planet are exclusive?
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SteeD@ffSteeD27·
I am really asking a genuine question guys. As @LandiLodge pointed out, if love for someone to explain to me how ACC can be *inauthentic* and *unofficial* to 7R, yet still be a future that the story wants to avoid in-universe.
SteeD@ffSteeD27

I'm not a native speaker so I figured maybe I misunderstand "canon". Here are the definitions I came across. Are we suggesting that: 1) Hamaguchi just confirmed AC is inauthentic/not official to 7R? 2) That the above confirms 7R is a work trying to avoid the inauthentic AC?

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Oathgate
Oathgate@oathgate1·
@KenMastersUSA @LandiLodge @ffSteeD27 This person is going to tell you that she actually died and those visions were just cloud going crazy even though the devs have directly stated Zack’s purpose is to show the rules of how alternate timelines work and his chapters showing stamp worlds and rainbows were one prior
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Ken Masters
Ken Masters@KenMastersUSA·
If we end up with Midgar preserved, and living in harmony with the Planet (changing OG'd ending as you put it) then I think that's exactly the same thing that every timeliner is saying -- we avoided Advent Children. Advent Children's setting and setup is completely averted. No Geostigma, no decay, no dystopia. I don't think anyone would ~want~ to live through that; Cloud certainly didn't. As to the memories that we're shown, yes the party does see Advent Children and Cloud see's Aerith's death. All of these things are things one would ~want~ to avoid. Aerith's death, if you believe she is dead, did not happen in the same way. You saw, and I saw, Cloud intervened this time. He stopped Sephiroth's sword. That did happen, right? However, some timeline/many world shenanigans happened (convergence) and she died in Beagle's continuity. But you have to acknowledge this isn't what happened in OG, agreed? The Nanaki scene btw, links OG and AC, it's in both. It's how OG ends, it's how AC begins. The Cloud vs Sephiroth scene is literally ripped from Advent Children. We're fighting the advents of Kadaj, Loz, and Yazoo from Advent Children. The scan data for them reads: "An entity from a future timeline [AC] that has manifested in the present day. It fights with [insert respectively identifying weapon] to protect the future that gave shape to it." As this fight progresses, that's where we see these Advent Children ~and~ OG scenes that are meant to be avoided. The Harbinger itself btw, reads: ".. the creature appears when someone tries to alter destiny's course. They are connected to ALL THE THREADS [read: worlds] OF TIME AND SPACE that shape the Planet's fate." Recall, the FF7 Remake Ultimania states this fate, explicitly, is the ending of the original Final Fantasy VII. We see this demonstrated in game. Sephiroth demonstrates this to us by killing Barret, only for him to be immediately resurrected as though nothing happens. And my emphasis here is because BEFORE we entered the Singularity we see Zack prior to his last stand. He's looking at Midgar and it's surrounded by Whispers (think of the time difference here). Defeating the Arbiters of Fate is what ALLOWS him to be saved and brought to the Terrier verse. This is what Aerith is talking about when she says what lies beyond the portal is "Freedom. Boundless, terrifying freedom." By following Sephiroth into an obvious trap, with obvious bait, she knows that defeating him could result in a far worse outcome for everyone and the Planet than Advent Children ~ but it's worth it anyway. The only reason to do that is if you perceive that reality, that existence, to be worth the risk in order to avoid it.
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Oathgate
Oathgate@oathgate1·
@tokafeii What’s wild is her context of cloud in this situation is likely that he’s gone and potentially dead and she’s super happy?
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UnfairlyDismissed
UnfairlyDismissed@SparklyEffects·
FF7 Remake E3 2019 still gives me goosebump's especially the beginning #FF7R
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Kain424
Kain424@Kain424·
@oathgate1 @J19_Gaming89 I think they'll continue doing what they've been doing. It'll be fairly straightforward until the end. The thing about ripping the bandaid off early would be that it wouldn't be a solid remake experience. If it's at the end, we've got our remake experience already. Win-win.
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GamesInsider23
GamesInsider23@J19_Gaming89·
Hamaguchi basically confirms that Final Fantasy VII Remake Series is just a Reimagining of the classic 1997 OG FF7 title. I will say that he needs to stop talking or he will spoil the game before launch. Now we can bury the sequel and requel theories for good now. 😌🔥🔥
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Oathgate
Oathgate@oathgate1·
@Joshiepoo2525 Oh great, let’s tease being able to save a character fans have been trying to save for three decades and then show them they couldn’t after buying three games. that way when we drive them to drinking they already know the prayer
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Oathgate
Oathgate@oathgate1·
@ffSteeD27 @KenMastersUSA Maybe the introduction of Zack this time. Maybe from the side he’s on he ends up able to stop it from recurring
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SteeD@ffSteeD27·
@KenMastersUSA If it's a multiverse: Now that the first loop is broken, a new branching loop has been created, right? What stops Sephiroth (or anyone else) from breaking this loop in the future when they realize it didn't work out for them? Do we end up with infinite loops?
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SteeD@ffSteeD27·
For anyone who thinks FF7 Remake will avoid the ACC future, I'm genuinely curious to hear: -Which out of these 3 pictures makes the most sense to you. -How you'd solve the issues in each one of them.
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Oathgate
Oathgate@oathgate1·
@Moon_x_Cat Nah clearly this means Hamaguchi is a theory bro and we should not trust him
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Cat ☽⋆゜Blooming so hard for P3
Maybe that explains the interviews. Hamaguchi is prepping the expectations. This isn't OG. It's not going to be OG. They've laid things out VERY clearly and if you still expect things to remain the same as OG and get disappointed, you have no one to blame but yourself.
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Oathgate
Oathgate@oathgate1·
@lolasam_moon Can I also please have one Yandere Aerith and one Tsundere Aerith. Thank you.
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samzee_merwe@lolasam_moon·
@oathgate1 Into Aerith (our Aerith) ,OG Aerith, resolution scene, Zack's world Aerith, Dream date Aerith, Final rebirth boss fight Aerith (I think she is our Aerith tbh) ... reunion of worlds probably puts all them together. Who knows. Let's wait for 2027. It's a mystery.
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samzee_merwe
samzee_merwe@lolasam_moon·
This is aging well. I will stan by that we have met at least four different versions of Aerith in the remake Trilogy... youtu.be/akGSEny1ShM?is…
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Oathgate
Oathgate@oathgate1·
@Kain424 @J19_Gaming89 Idk if they are going to do it id rather they just rip the bandaid off at the beginning and let people know shits about to get crazy
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Kain424
Kain424@Kain424·
@oathgate1 @J19_Gaming89 It might, but I'll bet if they do that it'll come at the tail end. This will be a remake series AT THE VERY LEAST up to the final minutes of the game. If not throughout.
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