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@ffSteeD27 Therefore, the planet's will is neither good nor evil, nor does it necessarily have to serve life. The planet follows the rules of nature, for everything that exists must also end.

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The biggest issue I personally have with the bad ending angle for post FF7 is that said ending was a necessity for humans to atone. If humans weren't punished by the planet, they wouldn't stop. The whole point of FF7 is that the party pitched for humanity, which got it spared.

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Tomorrow, I'll be joined by @AlphaISMRadio as we carry on with part 2 of the FFVII Remake Chapter 18 break down. This time, the weird shenanigans AFTER the portal. We will also talk Hamaguchi interview (obviously) - Hope to see you all tune in below! youtube.com/live/dSrs1l5TA…

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@CloudyWolf80 That's interesting although I think there could be follower bias obviously. If someone else were to run it it might be different, it's hard to find one objective way of doing it sadly.

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The results of 741 votes btw

✨Tifa🌙Month✨@TifaTheMonk

Just running an experiment here What is your view of the FF7Retriology at this current time? : Poll 🧵

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To clarify, Vincent says Gilligan came from the far distant future that Red is unconsciously afraid of, that it knows everything about him and the moments that only he has experienced. Red XIII Basically gets another vision of that same future during OTWTAS.

OTWTAS is a gold mine. Nanaki's feat of loss (Gilligan) once manifested ashim imagining the 500y flash forward. Considering how personal the Harbinger memories were, it's possible that they were seeing their fears from a distant future, rather than erasing it.

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@Kain424 I don't think that's what is implied - Meteor could embody the biggest challenge that Tifa has been grappling: Innocent lives being taken away. Out of the gang it seems that meteor as a fear makes sense to her or Aerith (which we don't get, interestingly).

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Kain424@Kain424·1d

@ffSteeD27 Yeah, that's why I like the idea of it. But in execution, it feels quite clumsy. Tifa keeps being forced to rebuild her life, even though it gets shredded again and again. But to think she;s extrapolated that so far as to a literal meteor coming to destroy the world is...specific

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Back to Hamaguchi's "Can the characters really change their fate?" - an interesting perspective is to think of the visions as the most terrifying moments the characters have buried in their unconscious. Meteor for Tifa, Not saving Aerith for Cloud, loneliness for Red XIII, etc.

OTWTAS is a gold mine. Nanaki's feat of loss (Gilligan) once manifested ashim imagining the 500y flash forward. Considering how personal the Harbinger memories were, it's possible that they were seeing their fears from a distant future, rather than erasing it.

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@Kain424 Considering we're talking about future unconscious fears (Possibly due to how the lifestream connects to people's unconscious, remember that we're speculating about these mechanics here), then that could very well be a good scene to portray it I believe.

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Kain424@Kain424·1d

@ffSteeD27 I think it's a cool notion (maybe even the right one), but the visual details are a bit too specific for this to be perfectly clear. Like, would Cloud have specifically feared he would be lowering Aerith into a pool of water?

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@StrawderryST @ectogamut I love all of you and I hope you all stop fighting 😂

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strawderryst@StrawderryST·1d

@ectogamut @ffSteeD27 "Look, I don't have an opinion, my YouTubers said that the developers are lying"

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I feel like this is as clear cut as it can be without him outright saying "don't expect any major changes to the story", which he obviously won't say.

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OTWTAS is a gold mine. Nanaki's feat of loss (Gilligan) once manifested ashim imagining the 500y flash forward. Considering how personal the Harbinger memories were, it's possible that they were seeing their fears from a distant future, rather than erasing it.

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@deltasyn @_subtxt_ @ectogamut I think that there are certain quotes which can go one way or the other, but some of them, objectively, seem very hard to interpret as though they're planning to change the story. For me not every single quote of his is in the middle, I genuinely see some of them as leaning.

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@ffSteeD27 @_subtxt_ @ectogamut x.com/ffSteeD27/stat… You were just talking about bias earlier, so I want to ask you a question. Do you think it's odd how each side of the fandom interprets these devs statements in such predictable ways?

@deltasyn @Schrodingersba4 I'm aware but I don't like to club the discussion under "everyone will pick up what they want" because while true, I feel like it removes our agency. Not everyone is dishonest or lacking self awareness so as mature people we can sit down and look at the quotes for what they are.

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@EZ_R009 I don't know because I don't care about FF7 Remake as a business. I'm just a consumer who happens to love the way they're telling this story (so the best answer I can give is that business-wise it's working with me...)

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@ffSteeD27 Is this the best way to tell a story from A business perspective?

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Also I'm aware that "how can they justify fate not being defied after defeating the harbinger" is a major question. And here is a very easy potential solution: The future the protagonists were shown was what they were "freeing" from the harbinger, not the one they're avoiding.

I feel like this is as clear cut as it can be without him outright saying "don't expect any major changes to the story", which he obviously won't say.

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@deltasyn @EZ_R009 It's still art at the end of the day and can't be quantified or be measured against objective metrics. Yes if something is negatively mass reviewed, it's likely that it's bad writing, but given the consensus on FF7R so far I doubt we're in that sort of conversation.

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@ffSteeD27 @EZ_R009 I would have to strongly disagree there. There are objectively good ways to tell stories and there are some that aren't objectively good outside of a few exceptions.

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@EZ_R009 Also there is no objectively good way to tell a story. It's art which means that it will be what the writer intends it to be, and some will inevitably like it. It's the exact same reason why some hardcore FF fans never touch modern FF for example.

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@ffSteeD27 Is this the best way to tell a story?

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@EZ_R009 I personally love it.

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Oh go on FFVII 10th Anniversary Ultimania, are you just plainly spelling it out now?

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Okay, I'll show you something again. So that you understand the whole fate thing and who will break it and go against it

Naoki Hamaguchi: "Dado que estamos contando esta historia como una trilogía, es esencial mantener a los jugadores implicados hasta el final. Por esa razón, hemos estructurado la narrativa de modo que la pregunta central (si los destinos de los protagonistas cambiarán realmente) permanezca sin resolverse hasta el final. Pero no significa que “todo pueda cambiar”. Desde el principio decidimos que no podíamos comprometer el núcleo emocional de los personajes ni los temas fundamentales que la historia plantea a los jugadores"

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@joe_x0f "who/where am I?"

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@ffSteeD27 More and more Clouds gonna be coming waking up a shore from Mideel like….

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@deltasyn @Schrodingersba4 We do that every week on Saturday, make sure you tune in 👀 youtube.com/playlist?list=… (Shameless marketing statement case in point).

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@ffSteeD27 @Schrodingersba4 But it's nearly impossible for anyone to do that when these are essentially marketing statements meant to be read in a way that triggers our own biases. I think it's much more productive to talk about what actually happens in the story.

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Schrodingersbabyseal@Schrodingersba4·2d

I promise that all of you think this means you are right.

Naoki Hamaguchi: "Dado que estamos contando esta historia como una trilogía, es esencial mantener a los jugadores implicados hasta el final. Por esa razón, hemos estructurado la narrativa de modo que la pregunta central (si los destinos de los protagonistas cambiarán realmente) permanezca sin resolverse hasta el final. Pero no significa que “todo pueda cambiar”. Desde el principio decidimos que no podíamos comprometer el núcleo emocional de los personajes ni los temas fundamentales que la historia plantea a los jugadores"

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@Schrodingersba4 Yeah I ran out of characters to say that but trusted you to rub it in 😂

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@ffSteeD27 I just don’t think there is anything to rub in… none of the quotes confirm anything… and they shouldn’t…

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@Schrodingersba4 I didn't see any converts at all, just mutuals which had given up because their opinion was drowned (not maliciously btw) finding a second breath and using the opportunity to re-present their side. Admittedly some are trying to rub it in. It's very hard to resist for humans..

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Schrodingersbabyseal@Schrodingersba4·2d

@ffSteeD27 I haven’t seen a lot of new converts to either side. Very much seems like the same old players saying the same old things tbh. And in my experience it always gets this way leading up to a big reveal.

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