@Nuke_the_whale @MinorMidgetGTHL What individual achievements does barkov have other than meaningless selkes lol .. scoring in the nhl and getting points are the hardest thing to do .. not playing d like any 3rd line centre can do
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@MinorMidgetGTHL Barkov. He does a lot of things Pasta never had to riding shotgun to Bergeron. If Matthews gets back to form I’d put him in 6th.
Pasta= no hart, pearson, ross, or ring. Always the bridesmaid personified.
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Last 5 NHL regular seasons
Guys with 500+ points
McDavid
MacKinnon
Kucherov
Draisaitl
Pasta
Top 5 in pts/game
McDavid
Kucherov
MacKinnon
Draisaitl
Pasta
Top 5 in goals
Draisaitl
Matthews
Pasta
McDavid
MacKinnon
Is Pasta clearly the 5th best forward in the NHL?
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@Slimhmmm @JFreshHockey Oh I thought you said the list has to include Mack and kuch.. they are unreal just not generational
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@Slimhmmm @JFreshHockey 97/mack/kuch careers are now and McDavid is well enough into his where you can say he is generational .. he has a lot of records that are only eclipsed by 99/66 .. you can’t say that about kuch or Mack.. hence why they aren’t generational
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@BennettChr44386 @erekzoolander @JFreshHockey You're basing a list of generational players on... "now"? The whole point of the list is to look transhistorically.
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@BennettChr44386 @ContrarianYEG @JFreshHockey No not simple minded .. it’s a term for the best player in the generation .. not just 3 scoring titles in his late 20s and early 30s .. or not guys that are solid defensively.. getting points is the hardest aspect .. 3rd line centres are paid to be solid defensively..
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@ContrarianYEG @erekzoolander @JFreshHockey So? Are we so simple minded that we dont understand that every team has a different style of play that drastically affects points? Score effects are a thing
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@erekzoolander @JFreshHockey Ricci is definitly generational.
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@xseldonx @JFreshHockey Mack and kuch weren’t producing at 18 .. hell they didn’t really produce till they were 22 and 24.. and even then 97 is always 1 or 2 in points through this entire career.. can’t say the same for the other 2
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@JFreshHockey I think you can have more than one generational talent at any given time. Connor McDavid’s existence doesn’t mean Mackinnon / Kucherov etc aren’t generational talents (imo).
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@Marc_Caron @JFreshHockey He has 100 more points than kuch and kuch had a two year head start and came into the league at 20 not 18 .. big difference .. kuch has been in the league longer and has 6 ind awards McDavid has 14 lol
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@JFreshHockey McDavid vs Kucherov. Not saying McDavid shouldn't be thought of as potentially generational, but it feels like this is the marketing machine from when he was 16. Kucherov has beaten him multiple seasons in a row. Career stats are similar except for the cups.
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@Kingofturtles1 @JFreshHockey McDavid entered the league at a ppg .. and has more points than both and they entered the league 2 seasons before him .. 97 if not finishing first in scoring was second or top 2 in ppg .. kuch/mack are nowhere near that.. and that’s not even mentioning playoff production..
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@JFreshHockey 10/10 times in the last 10 years are you picking McDavid to be your first pick for a team? Never kucherov or mack or even Leon? I feel McDavid is too close to be "generational". Maybe I am being too strict. To me generational doesn't mean the best it means best by faaaaar
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@BennettChr44386 @JFreshHockey Mack and kuch weren’t point a game players for their first 4 seasons lol didn’t dominate straight outta the gate
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@JFreshHockey If your list doesnt have Mack or Kuch on it, then it does.
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@23sabres Using a 10game sample and pacing it out for 82 lol
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@23sabres Playoff seeding should be conference 1-8, this division thing has run it's course At this point it is boring year after year the same matchups
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@RiverTornado86 @BarkingNon @UKhoops1_BBN @CharlieBorgesJr It happened for 2 years and there was only 20 teams in the league .. again it’s not relevant so I don’t get why people are crying over it
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The Los Angeles Kings have lost 44 times this season. They're one point out of a playoff spot.
The New Jersey Devils have lost 35 games this year. They're 10 points out of a playoff spot.
Sick system, Gary.
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@Julzy_92 @xwleblancx Yea I’m not saying they suck.. I just don’t think minni is a top 5 team like people seem to think ..
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@erekzoolander @xwleblancx Boldy beeing signed that low makes that Kapri extension looks a bit less stupid. I don’t think they’ll be stuck because of cap space in the future. Not as flexible as MTL but still
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The Montreal Canadiens (2nd youngest team in the NHL) have the same amount of pts than the Minnesota Wild who are ALL IN.
Let that sink in.
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@Bubbleboi69420 @813Drew Harts different than the scoring title .. the hart is so convoluted I personally think it’s a useless award .. people make up rules as they go for why and why not play a should win
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@erekzoolander @813Drew So if Kuch loses the Hart should go to Sorokin?
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@BoltsJolts @MikeBartner lol and those game are gone .. he ain’t gettin em back.. only 1 game in hand now for kuch and 3 points back
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@MikeBartner Buddy. Math can’t possibly be this hard for you.
McDavid has played SEVEN more games than Kucherov.
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Kucherov was out for today's game while McDavid racked up 3 points and the Oilers are now alive for the Pacific division. 👀
His odds even shifted from +1800 to +800
WE GOT A 3 MAN RACE BABY!!!!!!!
Mike Bartner@MikeBartner
The Hart race is being viewed as a two man race between Kucherov and MacKinnon… but what if I said I’d vote for McDavid right now. 🫣 Here’s my case for him:
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@UKhoops1_BBN @CharlieBorgesJr In a 1-16 system it would
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@deankal1 @NeilGarritty @TheOilyNuck Crazy .. nurse doesn’t play primarily with the top six .. so numbers go up when the top 6 is on the ice .. crazy shit
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I’m gonna have to say this…
If the Connor Murphy deal is the trade that settles down Darnell Nurse & gets him back to being a good shut down aggressive mean dman that the Oilers can count on….
It might be the trade of the year for Bowman/Jackson
Sorry y’all
#LetsGoOilers
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@TopTierPucks @HabsolutlyGoat The flick out of the zone lol so impressive
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@HabsolutlyGoat How was that pass on the 2nd goal not impressive? 💀
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Evan Bouchard today in the most important game of the season:
• 5v5 68.7 xGF%
• 2 points
• 5 shots
• 2 blocks
• 3:03 PK time
• Great defensively
If this man still isn’t first on your Norris ballot WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
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