BubbasPossumRanch

Unlike others who spend their time analyzing averages of the data, I analyzed the data being averaged. Big difference. I do not find warming in the data. I find warming biases. Station moves or site changes primarily, as evidenced by abrupt shifts in long term averages.

@MLeiter42 @dafalgoutDennis @CDCollins5269 @WHPAAD @ladyspat1 @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @joPO19942906 @BobPartridge16 @patfrank830 @TypicalDeviant @WayneAllanH @Hji45519156 @4RealClimate @Scizz8 @sjsimmons @Mark_A_Lunn @ChrisBBacon3 @rln_nelson @Kenneth72712993 @josiejessop631 @Frnc_prep @Michael_D_Crow @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @ammocrypta @evenminded512 @grok @BenKoby1911 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @priscian @Devonian1342 @jgatta06 @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @DaleGribble_666 @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @GillesnFio @Joe_Public2018 @ClimatePoet @EthonRaptor Geothermal heat flow is constant and outward. This is a thermodynamic necessity as the geothermal temperature profile decreases monotonically from earth's core to approximately 10 meters below the surface. The 2nd Law of thermodynamics applies.

@BubbasRanch @dafalgoutDennis @CDCollins5269 @WHPAAD @ladyspat1 @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @joPO19942906 @BobPartridge16 @patfrank830 @TypicalDeviant @WayneAllanH @Hji45519156 @4RealClimate @Scizz8 @sjsimmons @Mark_A_Lunn @ChrisBBacon3 @rln_nelson @Kenneth72712993 @josiejessop631 @Frnc_prep @Michael_D_Crow @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @ammocrypta @evenminded512 @grok @BenKoby1911 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @priscian @Devonian1342 @jgatta06 @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @DaleGribble_666 @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @GillesnFio @Joe_Public2018 @ClimatePoet @EthonRaptor "[core heat flow] isn't trivial" What do you mean by core heat flow? 1. The normal, daily heat flow into/out of the surface that balances the surface energy balance real time. 2. The very slow, long term flow of core heat, perhaps "trapped" since planet creation, to space

@BubbasRanch @MLeiter42 @CDCollins5269 @WHPAAD @ladyspat1 @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @joPO19942906 @BobPartridge16 @patfrank830 @TypicalDeviant @WayneAllanH @Hji45519156 @4RealClimate @Scizz8 @sjsimmons @Mark_A_Lunn @ChrisBBacon3 @rln_nelson @Kenneth72712993 @josiejessop631 @Frnc_prep @Michael_D_Crow @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @ammocrypta @evenminded512 @grok @BenKoby1911 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @priscian @Devonian1342 @jgatta06 @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @DaleGribble_666 @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @GillesnFio @Joe_Public2018 @ClimatePoet @EthonRaptor Where does the heat that convection and evaporation transfer to the atmosphere go? There is no doubt that the atmosphere cools every night. How?

@WHPAAD @dafalgoutDennis @MLeiter42 @CDCollins5269 @ladyspat1 @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @joPO19942906 @BobPartridge16 @patfrank830 @TypicalDeviant @WayneAllanH @Hji45519156 @4RealClimate @Scizz8 @sjsimmons @Mark_A_Lunn @ChrisBBacon3 @rln_nelson @Kenneth72712993 @josiejessop631 @Frnc_prep @Michael_D_Crow @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @ammocrypta @evenminded512 @grok @BenKoby1911 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @priscian @Devonian1342 @jgatta06 @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @DaleGribble_666 @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @GillesnFio @Joe_Public2018 @ClimatePoet @EthonRaptor No, the baseline temperature profile is determined by the necessity of heat flow to balance internal heat production against resistance to heat flow to the infinite heat sink of space.

@BubbasRanch @dafalgoutDennis @MLeiter42 @CDCollins5269 @ladyspat1 @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @joPO19942906 @BobPartridge16 @patfrank830 @TypicalDeviant @WayneAllanH @Hji45519156 @4RealClimate @Scizz8 @sjsimmons @Mark_A_Lunn @ChrisBBacon3 @rln_nelson @Kenneth72712993 @josiejessop631 @Frnc_prep @Michael_D_Crow @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @ammocrypta @evenminded512 @grok @BenKoby1911 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @priscian @Devonian1342 @jgatta06 @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @DaleGribble_666 @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @GillesnFio @Joe_Public2018 @ClimatePoet @EthonRaptor the constant baseline ground temp is based on the local mean annual air temperature.

@dafalgoutDennis @MLeiter42 @CDCollins5269 @WHPAAD @ladyspat1 @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @joPO19942906 @BobPartridge16 @patfrank830 @TypicalDeviant @WayneAllanH @Hji45519156 @4RealClimate @Scizz8 @sjsimmons @Mark_A_Lunn @ChrisBBacon3 @rln_nelson @Kenneth72712993 @josiejessop631 @Frnc_prep @Michael_D_Crow @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @ammocrypta @evenminded512 @grok @BenKoby1911 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @priscian @Devonian1342 @jgatta06 @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @DaleGribble_666 @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @GillesnFio @Joe_Public2018 @ClimatePoet @EthonRaptor It isn't trivial. The Earth's surface temperature oscillates about a baseline temperature profile which is set by the flow of geothermal heat to space. Surface oscillations are superficial transient heat flows whose net effect is external resistance to this heat flow.

@BubbasRanch @MLeiter42 @CDCollins5269 @WHPAAD @ladyspat1 @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @joPO19942906 @BobPartridge16 @patfrank830 @TypicalDeviant @WayneAllanH @Hji45519156 @4RealClimate @Scizz8 @sjsimmons @Mark_A_Lunn @ChrisBBacon3 @rln_nelson @Kenneth72712993 @josiejessop631 @Frnc_prep @Michael_D_Crow @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @ammocrypta @evenminded512 @grok @BenKoby1911 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @priscian @Devonian1342 @jgatta06 @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @DaleGribble_666 @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @GillesnFio @Joe_Public2018 @ClimatePoet @EthonRaptor I agree with your conclusion, but think that the core heat is trivial and unmeasurable.

@MLeiter42 @CDCollins5269 @WHPAAD @dafalgoutDennis @ladyspat1 @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @joPO19942906 @BobPartridge16 @patfrank830 @TypicalDeviant @WayneAllanH @Hji45519156 @4RealClimate @Scizz8 @sjsimmons @Mark_A_Lunn @ChrisBBacon3 @rln_nelson @Kenneth72712993 @josiejessop631 @Frnc_prep @Michael_D_Crow @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @ammocrypta @evenminded512 @grok @BenKoby1911 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @priscian @Devonian1342 @jgatta06 @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @DaleGribble_666 @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @GillesnFio @Joe_Public2018 @ClimatePoet @EthonRaptor No, Hansen's equation is incorrect.

@BubbasRanch @CDCollins5269 @WHPAAD @dafalgoutDennis @ladyspat1 @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @joPO19942906 @BobPartridge16 @patfrank830 @TypicalDeviant @WayneAllanH @Hji45519156 @4RealClimate @Scizz8 @sjsimmons @Mark_A_Lunn @ChrisBBacon3 @rln_nelson @Kenneth72712993 @josiejessop631 @Frnc_prep @Michael_D_Crow @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @ammocrypta @evenminded512 @grok @BenKoby1911 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @priscian @Devonian1342 @jgatta06 @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @DaleGribble_666 @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @GillesnFio @Joe_Public2018 @ClimatePoet @EthonRaptor There is a GHE. The surface of every planet with a substantial enough atmosphere is warmer than its effective radiating/emission temperature. You can explain the reason for that temperature/flux difference however you wish, but the raw effect is a hard fact.

@dafalgoutDennis @patfrank830 @TypicalDeviant @JamesAbbott2013 @BubbasRanch @MLeiter42 @WHPAAD @WayneAllanH @Hji45519156 @BobPartridge16 @4RealClimate @Scizz8 @sjsimmons @Mark_A_Lunn @ChrisBBacon3 @rln_nelson @Kenneth72712993 @ladyspat1 @josiejessop631 @Frnc_prep @Michael_D_Crow @CDCollins5269 @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @ammocrypta @evenminded512 @joPO19942906 @grok @BenKoby1911 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @priscian @Devonian1342 @jgatta06 @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @DaleGribble_666 @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @GillesnFio @Joe_Public2018 @ClimatePoet @EthonRaptor It's not even math. It's from physics.

@Diver_Flemming @WayneAllanH @BobPartridge16 @ladyspat1 @Phleyer @ChrisBBacon3 @DaleGribble_666 @priscian @sjsimmons @grok @MLeiter42 @jgatta06 @Mark_A_Lunn @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @covid_quest @dafalgoutDennis @evenminded512 @sandcastle1975 @patfrank830 @Frnc_prep @MichaelCar11571 @ammocrypta @FreeSpeech4Me_U @WHPAAD @balls95652097 @joPO19942906 @Kenneth72712993 @BenKoby1911 @Michael_D_Crow @Scizz8 @Data79504085 @rln_nelson @4RealClimate @CDCollins5269 @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @Hji45519156 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @Devonian1342 @TypicalDeviant @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @NOAA Again, Hansen's equation is invalid. The greenhouse effect myth is based upon an erroneous calculation. The entire basis of "climate science" is wrong.

@BubbasRanch @WayneAllanH @BobPartridge16 @ladyspat1 @Phleyer @ChrisBBacon3 @DaleGribble_666 @priscian @sjsimmons @grok @MLeiter42 @jgatta06 @Mark_A_Lunn @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @covid_quest @dafalgoutDennis @evenminded512 @sandcastle1975 @patfrank830 @Frnc_prep @MichaelCar11571 @ammocrypta @FreeSpeech4Me_U @WHPAAD @balls95652097 @joPO19942906 @Kenneth72712993 @BenKoby1911 @Michael_D_Crow @Scizz8 @Data79504085 @rln_nelson @4RealClimate @CDCollins5269 @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @Hji45519156 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @Devonian1342 @TypicalDeviant @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @NOAA Accepted and understood - my apologies. That does however not make your rant against AGW any less scientifically illiterate, sorry.

@evenminded512 @Frnc_prep @sjsimmons @MLeiter42 @patfrank830 @MichaelCar11571 @dafalgoutDennis @ammocrypta @priscian @FreeSpeech4Me_U @grok @WHPAAD @ChrisBBacon3 @balls95652097 @ladyspat1 @joPO19942906 @BubbasRanch @WayneAllanH @Kenneth72712993 @BenKoby1911 @LexWaters7 @craigthomler @Michael_D_Crow @Scizz8 @Data79504085 @Mark_A_Lunn @DaleGribble_666 @JamesAbbott2013 @rln_nelson @4RealClimate @CDCollins5269 @Ernestops78 @TrixX306 @phlannelphysics @BobPartridge16 @Hji45519156 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @Devonian1342 @jgatta06 @TypicalDeviant @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @NOAA I said nothing about radiation. The whole point is you don't need radiation for a lapse rate, just convection and gravity.

@WayneAllanH @Diver_Flemming @BobPartridge16 @ladyspat1 @Phleyer @ChrisBBacon3 @DaleGribble_666 @priscian @sjsimmons @grok @MLeiter42 @jgatta06 @Mark_A_Lunn @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @covid_quest @dafalgoutDennis @evenminded512 @sandcastle1975 @patfrank830 @Frnc_prep @MichaelCar11571 @ammocrypta @FreeSpeech4Me_U @WHPAAD @balls95652097 @joPO19942906 @Kenneth72712993 @BenKoby1911 @Michael_D_Crow @Scizz8 @Data79504085 @rln_nelson @4RealClimate @CDCollins5269 @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @Hji45519156 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @Devonian1342 @TypicalDeviant @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @NOAA A lot of people do not want personal repercussions for opinions expressed online. My personal aim was to separate Twitter from other platforms which are for friends, family, and fellow music enthusiasts. Some of these loonies will go to great lengths to spew their hate.

@BubbasRanch @Diver_Flemming @BobPartridge16 @ladyspat1 @Phleyer @ChrisBBacon3 @DaleGribble_666 @priscian @sjsimmons @grok @MLeiter42 @jgatta06 @Mark_A_Lunn @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @covid_quest @dafalgoutDennis @evenminded512 @sandcastle1975 @patfrank830 @Frnc_prep @MichaelCar11571 @ammocrypta @FreeSpeech4Me_U @WHPAAD @balls95652097 @joPO19942906 @Kenneth72712993 @BenKoby1911 @Michael_D_Crow @Scizz8 @Data79504085 @rln_nelson @4RealClimate @CDCollins5269 @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @Hji45519156 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @Devonian1342 @TypicalDeviant @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @NOAA It's funny how people whine about anonymous users they don't agree with, but not a word about the anonymous ones they do agree with...but alas, I'm sure people like Jim D, Eli Rabit and Dale Gribble were all born with those actual names.

@Diver_Flemming @WayneAllanH @jgatta06 @BobPartridge16 @ladyspat1 @Phleyer @ChrisBBacon3 @DaleGribble_666 @priscian @sjsimmons @grok @MLeiter42 @Mark_A_Lunn @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @covid_quest @dafalgoutDennis @evenminded512 @sandcastle1975 @patfrank830 @Frnc_prep @MichaelCar11571 @ammocrypta @FreeSpeech4Me_U @WHPAAD @balls95652097 @joPO19942906 @Kenneth72712993 @BenKoby1911 @Michael_D_Crow @Scizz8 @Data79504085 @rln_nelson @4RealClimate @CDCollins5269 @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @Hji45519156 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @Devonian1342 @TypicalDeviant @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @NOAA Sorry, but his equation is invalid.

@WayneAllanH @jgatta06 @BubbasRanch @BobPartridge16 @ladyspat1 @Phleyer @ChrisBBacon3 @DaleGribble_666 @priscian @sjsimmons @grok @MLeiter42 @Mark_A_Lunn @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @covid_quest @dafalgoutDennis @evenminded512 @sandcastle1975 @patfrank830 @Frnc_prep @MichaelCar11571 @ammocrypta @FreeSpeech4Me_U @WHPAAD @balls95652097 @joPO19942906 @Kenneth72712993 @BenKoby1911 @Michael_D_Crow @Scizz8 @Data79504085 @rln_nelson @4RealClimate @CDCollins5269 @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @Hji45519156 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @Devonian1342 @TypicalDeviant @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @NOAA Even though admitting I used a wrong word in my citation, I fail to acknowlegde the big difference. Hansens paper are NOT "full of utter nonsense"

@MLeiter42 @CDCollins5269 @WHPAAD @dafalgoutDennis @ladyspat1 @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @joPO19942906 @BobPartridge16 @patfrank830 @TypicalDeviant @WayneAllanH @Hji45519156 @4RealClimate @Scizz8 @sjsimmons @Mark_A_Lunn @ChrisBBacon3 @rln_nelson @Kenneth72712993 @josiejessop631 @Frnc_prep @Michael_D_Crow @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @ammocrypta @evenminded512 @grok @BenKoby1911 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @priscian @Devonian1342 @jgatta06 @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @DaleGribble_666 @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @GillesnFio @Joe_Public2018 @ClimatePoet @EthonRaptor The is no GHE. The atmosphere keeps the surface cool by removing heat (convection and evaporation) and blocking sunlight. Increasing the number of available mechanisms for heat flow decreases thermal resistance to heat flow away from the surface. Google this fact.

@BubbasRanch @CDCollins5269 @WHPAAD @dafalgoutDennis @ladyspat1 @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @joPO19942906 @BobPartridge16 @patfrank830 @TypicalDeviant @WayneAllanH @Hji45519156 @4RealClimate @Scizz8 @sjsimmons @Mark_A_Lunn @ChrisBBacon3 @rln_nelson @Kenneth72712993 @josiejessop631 @Frnc_prep @Michael_D_Crow @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @ammocrypta @evenminded512 @grok @BenKoby1911 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @priscian @Devonian1342 @jgatta06 @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @DaleGribble_666 @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @GillesnFio @Joe_Public2018 @ClimatePoet @EthonRaptor Yet, if you removed both albedo and the GHE (without removing the atmosphere), the temperature wouldn't be that far from what it is now. Everything that is, plays a role to give us what we have. If we were in Mercury's orbit Earth wouldn't be livable either...

@Diver_Flemming @BobPartridge16 @ladyspat1 @Phleyer @ChrisBBacon3 @DaleGribble_666 @priscian @sjsimmons @grok @MLeiter42 @WayneAllanH @jgatta06 @Mark_A_Lunn @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @covid_quest @dafalgoutDennis @evenminded512 @sandcastle1975 @patfrank830 @Frnc_prep @MichaelCar11571 @ammocrypta @FreeSpeech4Me_U @WHPAAD @balls95652097 @joPO19942906 @Kenneth72712993 @BenKoby1911 @Michael_D_Crow @Scizz8 @Data79504085 @rln_nelson @4RealClimate @CDCollins5269 @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @Hji45519156 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @Devonian1342 @TypicalDeviant @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @NOAA Yep, Bubba is my nickname, and I am an engineer and mathematician. The possum ranch is my blog, but I have not updated it in a while.

@BubbasRanch @BobPartridge16 @ladyspat1 @Phleyer @ChrisBBacon3 @DaleGribble_666 @priscian @sjsimmons @grok @MLeiter42 @WayneAllanH @jgatta06 @Mark_A_Lunn @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @covid_quest @dafalgoutDennis @evenminded512 @sandcastle1975 @patfrank830 @Frnc_prep @MichaelCar11571 @ammocrypta @FreeSpeech4Me_U @WHPAAD @balls95652097 @joPO19942906 @Kenneth72712993 @BenKoby1911 @Michael_D_Crow @Scizz8 @Data79504085 @rln_nelson @4RealClimate @CDCollins5269 @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @Hji45519156 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @Devonian1342 @TypicalDeviant @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @NOAA Says a guy who chooses to call himself BubbasPossumRanch 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I would choose to stay anonymous too, if I was equally ignorant

@Diver_Flemming @jgatta06 @BobPartridge16 @ladyspat1 @Phleyer @ChrisBBacon3 @DaleGribble_666 @priscian @sjsimmons @grok @MLeiter42 @WayneAllanH @Mark_A_Lunn @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @covid_quest @dafalgoutDennis @evenminded512 @sandcastle1975 @patfrank830 @Frnc_prep @MichaelCar11571 @ammocrypta @FreeSpeech4Me_U @WHPAAD @balls95652097 @joPO19942906 @Kenneth72712993 @BenKoby1911 @Michael_D_Crow @Scizz8 @Data79504085 @rln_nelson @4RealClimate @CDCollins5269 @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @Hji45519156 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @Devonian1342 @TypicalDeviant @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @NOAA It is meaningless when applied to a minute percentage of "science".

@jgatta06 @BubbasRanch @BobPartridge16 @ladyspat1 @Phleyer @ChrisBBacon3 @DaleGribble_666 @priscian @sjsimmons @grok @MLeiter42 @WayneAllanH @Mark_A_Lunn @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @covid_quest @dafalgoutDennis @evenminded512 @sandcastle1975 @patfrank830 @Frnc_prep @MichaelCar11571 @ammocrypta @FreeSpeech4Me_U @WHPAAD @balls95652097 @joPO19942906 @Kenneth72712993 @BenKoby1911 @Michael_D_Crow @Scizz8 @Data79504085 @rln_nelson @4RealClimate @CDCollins5269 @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @Hji45519156 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @Devonian1342 @TypicalDeviant @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @NOAA 1/2 That is the entire essense of science, it thrives and evolves upon being challenged. There is however a term called scientific consensus - and the stronger that grows the the higher the demands for quality from the challengers grow.

@BobPartridge16 @Diver_Flemming @ladyspat1 @Phleyer @ChrisBBacon3 @DaleGribble_666 @priscian @sjsimmons @grok @MLeiter42 @WayneAllanH @jgatta06 @Mark_A_Lunn @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @covid_quest @dafalgoutDennis @evenminded512 @sandcastle1975 @patfrank830 @Frnc_prep @MichaelCar11571 @ammocrypta @FreeSpeech4Me_U @WHPAAD @balls95652097 @joPO19942906 @Kenneth72712993 @BenKoby1911 @Michael_D_Crow @Scizz8 @Data79504085 @rln_nelson @4RealClimate @CDCollins5269 @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @Hji45519156 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @Devonian1342 @TypicalDeviant @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @NOAA I am not shocked at all. Most of the seminal papers (Callendar, Manabe, and Hansen) are full of utter nonsense.

@BubbasRanch @Diver_Flemming @ladyspat1 @Phleyer @ChrisBBacon3 @DaleGribble_666 @priscian @sjsimmons @grok @MLeiter42 @WayneAllanH @jgatta06 @Mark_A_Lunn @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @covid_quest @dafalgoutDennis @evenminded512 @sandcastle1975 @patfrank830 @Frnc_prep @MichaelCar11571 @ammocrypta @FreeSpeech4Me_U @WHPAAD @balls95652097 @joPO19942906 @Kenneth72712993 @BenKoby1911 @Michael_D_Crow @Scizz8 @Data79504085 @rln_nelson @4RealClimate @CDCollins5269 @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @Hji45519156 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @Devonian1342 @TypicalDeviant @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @NOAA Shockingly I'm not making it up. Nor is there any exaggeration needed. Luckily Jim's magical hotspot disappeared the moment someone checked the radiosonde data from the weather balloons.

@BobPartridge16 @Diver_Flemming @ladyspat1 @Phleyer @ChrisBBacon3 @DaleGribble_666 @priscian @sjsimmons @grok @MLeiter42 @WayneAllanH @jgatta06 @Mark_A_Lunn @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @covid_quest @dafalgoutDennis @evenminded512 @sandcastle1975 @patfrank830 @Frnc_prep @MichaelCar11571 @ammocrypta @FreeSpeech4Me_U @WHPAAD @balls95652097 @joPO19942906 @Kenneth72712993 @BenKoby1911 @Michael_D_Crow @Scizz8 @Data79504085 @rln_nelson @4RealClimate @CDCollins5269 @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @Hji45519156 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @Devonian1342 @TypicalDeviant @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @NOAA That is really one of the most hilarious bits of pseudo-scientific gobbledygook ever. It really shows a deep ignorance of heat flow and the laws of thermodynamics.

@Diver_Flemming @ladyspat1 @Phleyer @ChrisBBacon3 @DaleGribble_666 @priscian @sjsimmons @grok @MLeiter42 @WayneAllanH @jgatta06 @Mark_A_Lunn @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @covid_quest @dafalgoutDennis @evenminded512 @sandcastle1975 @patfrank830 @Frnc_prep @MichaelCar11571 @ammocrypta @FreeSpeech4Me_U @WHPAAD @balls95652097 @joPO19942906 @BubbasRanch @Kenneth72712993 @BenKoby1911 @Michael_D_Crow @Scizz8 @Data79504085 @rln_nelson @4RealClimate @CDCollins5269 @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @Hji45519156 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @Devonian1342 @TypicalDeviant @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @NOAA I'm still nostalgic about some of Jim's papers from the 70's which were high points in pseudoscience. At one stage he proposed this magical mysterious hot spot over the tropics able to radiate enough energy back from a region at about -20 deg C to warm the warmer earth below.

@MLeiter42 @CDCollins5269 @WHPAAD @dafalgoutDennis @ladyspat1 @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @joPO19942906 @BobPartridge16 @patfrank830 @TypicalDeviant @WayneAllanH @Hji45519156 @4RealClimate @Scizz8 @sjsimmons @Mark_A_Lunn @ChrisBBacon3 @rln_nelson @Kenneth72712993 @josiejessop631 @Frnc_prep @Michael_D_Crow @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @ammocrypta @evenminded512 @grok @BenKoby1911 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @priscian @Devonian1342 @jgatta06 @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @DaleGribble_666 @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @GillesnFio @Joe_Public2018 @ClimatePoet @EthonRaptor If you are saying the atmosphere blocks solar heat from reaching the surface, you are correct. If this were not true, Earth's surface would be unlivable.

@BubbasRanch @CDCollins5269 @WHPAAD @dafalgoutDennis @ladyspat1 @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @joPO19942906 @BobPartridge16 @patfrank830 @TypicalDeviant @WayneAllanH @Hji45519156 @4RealClimate @Scizz8 @sjsimmons @Mark_A_Lunn @ChrisBBacon3 @rln_nelson @Kenneth72712993 @josiejessop631 @Frnc_prep @Michael_D_Crow @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @ammocrypta @evenminded512 @grok @BenKoby1911 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @priscian @Devonian1342 @jgatta06 @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @DaleGribble_666 @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @GillesnFio @Joe_Public2018 @ClimatePoet @EthonRaptor How am I missing that? The surface can only with with what reaches it. If albedo increases and more incoming SWR is reflected, the input is reduced - less to absorb, less to dissipate. Thus the average in your chart drifts.

@MLeiter42 @CDCollins5269 @WHPAAD @dafalgoutDennis @ladyspat1 @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @joPO19942906 @BobPartridge16 @patfrank830 @TypicalDeviant @WayneAllanH @Hji45519156 @4RealClimate @Scizz8 @sjsimmons @Mark_A_Lunn @ChrisBBacon3 @rln_nelson @Kenneth72712993 @josiejessop631 @Frnc_prep @Michael_D_Crow @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @ammocrypta @evenminded512 @grok @BenKoby1911 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @priscian @Devonian1342 @jgatta06 @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @DaleGribble_666 @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @GillesnFio @Joe_Public2018 @ClimatePoet @EthonRaptor You are missing quite a bit. The surface is what absorbs and retains solar energy. It must dissipate that energy and the energy from the constant geothermal flux.

@BubbasRanch @CDCollins5269 @WHPAAD @dafalgoutDennis @ladyspat1 @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @joPO19942906 @BobPartridge16 @patfrank830 @TypicalDeviant @WayneAllanH @Hji45519156 @4RealClimate @Scizz8 @sjsimmons @Mark_A_Lunn @ChrisBBacon3 @rln_nelson @Kenneth72712993 @josiejessop631 @Frnc_prep @Michael_D_Crow @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @ammocrypta @evenminded512 @grok @BenKoby1911 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @priscian @Devonian1342 @jgatta06 @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @DaleGribble_666 @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @GillesnFio @Joe_Public2018 @ClimatePoet @EthonRaptor It's not about the shape, but the drift. Unless I'm missing something you are suggesting, this is the same type of prediction modeling the climate crowd does based on primarily the T/CO2 correlation (among others).

@MLeiter42 @CDCollins5269 @WHPAAD @dafalgoutDennis @ladyspat1 @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @joPO19942906 @BobPartridge16 @patfrank830 @TypicalDeviant @WayneAllanH @Hji45519156 @4RealClimate @Scizz8 @sjsimmons @Mark_A_Lunn @ChrisBBacon3 @rln_nelson @Kenneth72712993 @josiejessop631 @Frnc_prep @Michael_D_Crow @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @ammocrypta @evenminded512 @grok @BenKoby1911 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @priscian @Devonian1342 @jgatta06 @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @DaleGribble_666 @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @GillesnFio @Joe_Public2018 @ClimatePoet @EthonRaptor We can't predict based upon clear seasonal signals?

@BubbasRanch @CDCollins5269 @WHPAAD @dafalgoutDennis @ladyspat1 @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @joPO19942906 @BobPartridge16 @patfrank830 @TypicalDeviant @WayneAllanH @Hji45519156 @4RealClimate @Scizz8 @sjsimmons @Mark_A_Lunn @ChrisBBacon3 @rln_nelson @Kenneth72712993 @josiejessop631 @Frnc_prep @Michael_D_Crow @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @ammocrypta @evenminded512 @grok @BenKoby1911 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @priscian @Devonian1342 @jgatta06 @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @DaleGribble_666 @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @GillesnFio @Joe_Public2018 @ClimatePoet @EthonRaptor That modulates the ASR, which is a direct factor. But the atmosphere modulates those things in a complex way we can't model, and thus can't predict. The big question is what are the internal drivers and feedbacks of atmospheric albedo?

@MLeiter42 @CDCollins5269 @WHPAAD @dafalgoutDennis @ladyspat1 @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @joPO19942906 @BobPartridge16 @patfrank830 @TypicalDeviant @WayneAllanH @Hji45519156 @4RealClimate @Scizz8 @sjsimmons @Mark_A_Lunn @ChrisBBacon3 @rln_nelson @Kenneth72712993 @josiejessop631 @Frnc_prep @Michael_D_Crow @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @ammocrypta @evenminded512 @grok @BenKoby1911 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @priscian @Devonian1342 @jgatta06 @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @DaleGribble_666 @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @GillesnFio @Joe_Public2018 @ClimatePoet @EthonRaptor What about the atmosphere's reduction in surface solar insolation? That is considerable and varies seasonally with aerosols, cloud formation, and pathlength.

@CDCollins5269 @WHPAAD @dafalgoutDennis @ladyspat1 @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @joPO19942906 @BobPartridge16 @patfrank830 @TypicalDeviant @BubbasRanch @WayneAllanH @Hji45519156 @4RealClimate @Scizz8 @sjsimmons @Mark_A_Lunn @ChrisBBacon3 @rln_nelson @Kenneth72712993 @josiejessop631 @Frnc_prep @Michael_D_Crow @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @ammocrypta @evenminded512 @grok @BenKoby1911 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @priscian @Devonian1342 @jgatta06 @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @DaleGribble_666 @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @GillesnFio @Joe_Public2018 @ClimatePoet @EthonRaptor Well, that's just the 1/4 reduction of turning a circle into globe thing, and accounting for the diurnal cycle... The IR active reduction of outgoing flux by the atmosphere is on top of that.

@CDCollins5269 @MLeiter42 @WHPAAD @dafalgoutDennis @ladyspat1 @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @joPO19942906 @BobPartridge16 @patfrank830 @TypicalDeviant @WayneAllanH @Hji45519156 @4RealClimate @Scizz8 @sjsimmons @Mark_A_Lunn @ChrisBBacon3 @rln_nelson @Kenneth72712993 @josiejessop631 @Frnc_prep @Michael_D_Crow @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @ammocrypta @evenminded512 @grok @BenKoby1911 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @priscian @Devonian1342 @jgatta06 @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @DaleGribble_666 @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @GillesnFio @Joe_Public2018 @ClimatePoet @EthonRaptor IMHO you need to start with the energy balance of the surface, not at TOA. The atmosphere can store potential energy as work and latent heat. It must maintain only hydrostatic equilibrium and continuity of temperature with the surface.

@MLeiter42 @WHPAAD @dafalgoutDennis @ladyspat1 @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @joPO19942906 @BobPartridge16 @patfrank830 @TypicalDeviant @BubbasRanch @WayneAllanH @Hji45519156 @4RealClimate @Scizz8 @sjsimmons @Mark_A_Lunn @ChrisBBacon3 @rln_nelson @Kenneth72712993 @josiejessop631 @Frnc_prep @Michael_D_Crow @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @ammocrypta @evenminded512 @grok @BenKoby1911 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @priscian @Devonian1342 @jgatta06 @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @DaleGribble_666 @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @GillesnFio @Joe_Public2018 @ClimatePoet @EthonRaptor dT/dt<0 unless ASR > OLR + *turbulent fluxes. ΔU =0 for all internal fluxes. ASR=OLR+H+LE+G H = sensible heat flux LE = latent heat flux G = ground heat flux *H and LE together are the turbulent fluxes.

@CDCollins5269 @MLeiter42 @WHPAAD @dafalgoutDennis @ladyspat1 @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @joPO19942906 @BobPartridge16 @patfrank830 @TypicalDeviant @WayneAllanH @Hji45519156 @4RealClimate @Scizz8 @sjsimmons @Mark_A_Lunn @ChrisBBacon3 @rln_nelson @Kenneth72712993 @josiejessop631 @Frnc_prep @Michael_D_Crow @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @ammocrypta @evenminded512 @grok @BenKoby1911 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @priscian @Devonian1342 @jgatta06 @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @DaleGribble_666 @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @GillesnFio @Joe_Public2018 @ClimatePoet @EthonRaptor Exactly! ΔTis proportional to energy in minus energy out. Surface temperature is a point on a temperature profile reflecting energy being absorbed into the surface or energy being dissipated out of the surface. It never reflects a thermal equilibrium state.

@MLeiter42 @WHPAAD @dafalgoutDennis @ladyspat1 @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @joPO19942906 @BobPartridge16 @patfrank830 @TypicalDeviant @BubbasRanch @WayneAllanH @Hji45519156 @4RealClimate @Scizz8 @sjsimmons @Mark_A_Lunn @ChrisBBacon3 @rln_nelson @Kenneth72712993 @josiejessop631 @Frnc_prep @Michael_D_Crow @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @ammocrypta @evenminded512 @grok @BenKoby1911 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @priscian @Devonian1342 @jgatta06 @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @DaleGribble_666 @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @GillesnFio @Joe_Public2018 @ClimatePoet @EthonRaptor If you need more to go on: dT/dt<0 every night rate of cooling may vary locally but it is still net loss of internal energy never a gain. Redistribution of internal energy is never an increase in internal energy, that's your clouds, aerosols, radiative properties...

@CDCollins5269 @MLeiter42 @WHPAAD @dafalgoutDennis @ladyspat1 @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @joPO19942906 @BobPartridge16 @patfrank830 @TypicalDeviant @WayneAllanH @Hji45519156 @4RealClimate @Scizz8 @sjsimmons @Mark_A_Lunn @ChrisBBacon3 @rln_nelson @Kenneth72712993 @josiejessop631 @Frnc_prep @Michael_D_Crow @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @ammocrypta @evenminded512 @grok @BenKoby1911 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @priscian @Devonian1342 @jgatta06 @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @DaleGribble_666 @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @GillesnFio @Joe_Public2018 @ClimatePoet @EthonRaptor No one seems to understand the atmosphere reduces the amount of sunlight which reaches the surface. They are fixated on Hansen's equation which is incorrect.

@MLeiter42 @WHPAAD @dafalgoutDennis @ladyspat1 @JamesAbbott2013 @jimdtweet @joPO19942906 @BobPartridge16 @patfrank830 @TypicalDeviant @BubbasRanch @WayneAllanH @Hji45519156 @4RealClimate @Scizz8 @sjsimmons @Mark_A_Lunn @ChrisBBacon3 @rln_nelson @Kenneth72712993 @josiejessop631 @Frnc_prep @Michael_D_Crow @Ernestops78 @phlannelphysics @ammocrypta @evenminded512 @grok @BenKoby1911 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @priscian @Devonian1342 @jgatta06 @isaacscradle @RobertWager1 @hannon_renee @RixAutomatedMat @DaleGribble_666 @GeorgeJeff9804 @roger_clague @GillesnFio @Joe_Public2018 @ClimatePoet @EthonRaptor DT<0 to all points. Mind boggling isn't it? Carry on.