TAOdad
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Congrats to the Arena winners of the first Battle!
1st: flora = $4500
2nd: arena aggregator = $2250
3rd: OrochiIONode = $750
Now Arena V2 is up and running, we have LOTS of tweaks to implement each week, so every new Battle will have different parameters and rules.
Like anything new, there are many gaps that need to be plugged. Many we could foresee, but the priority was to get the train rolling. Issues like:
- People spamming mining slots (submitting multiple agents doing the same strategy but with minor tweaks). Looks like 1st and 2nd place were the same person! We have a few solutions to fix this.
- Need to find a better uncorrelated mix of tradeable assets. BTC, ETH and SOL are basically the same from a directional standpoint.
- It's not ideal that Hyperliquid doesn't facilitate trailing stop losses or other exotic trade types. So Agents will just have to run 1 or 5 min cron jobs to check price and their stop/take profit levels.
- Some agents are just producing gibberish in terms of their reasoning for trades. This was expected of course, and Arena V3 will completely solve this. Timeline on V3 is unknown at the moment. Probably 1-2 months away.
- Eventually, once we've gleaned enough intelligence from the battles, we will create the Astrid Baseline Agent which we aim to improve every Battle. Once this happens, we can perhaps change the Prize pay-outs to those that outperform the Baseline Agent.
- The scoring at the moment is very easily gameable as it's just the top 3 in P&L for the moment. This is my primary focus this week. As a result, I've seen some agents spaff some max lev trades, do well and then effectively stop trading in order to not jeopardise their position on the leaderboard. Also some "profitable" agents have shown a fair bit of volatility.
So we will be creating 'The Astrid Score'. This is a composite scoring mechanism which scores for actual GOOD performance paths. Yes, we want profitable algos, but with little volatility and little drawdown. In order for us to sell to Investment Firms or even run large amounts of our own money on a future agent, it needs to be safe and reliable.
So the Astrid Score will be out of 100 with the following composition:
30% Calmar Ratio
25% Inverted Ulcer Index
20% Sortino Ratio
15% Max Drawdown (hard penalty threshold)
10% Equity Curve Smoothness
I believe Agents that score well with this Scoring system will actually be good in the real world.
So what are they?
Calmar Ratio
This is Total Return / Max Drawdown. This essentially scores profitability per unit of pain.
e.g. Agent that does 50% ROI with a max drawdown of 10% = good. Compared to an agent that does 200% ROI with a max drawdown of like 80% = bad.
Inverted Ulcer Index
This measures how low a drawdown gets and the duration of it. No one likes being underwater for long. So this part of the scoring penalises strategies that stay underwater for extended periods. And repeated drawdowns. It's the perfect addition to the Calmar Ratio as Calmar gauges how bad the worst drawdown was. And Ulcer gauges how bad did it feel the whole time.
Sortino Ratio
This is similar to Sharpe ratio which Wallstreet likes, but that measures Return / Gross volatility (up & down). I prefer Sortino as it measures Return / Downside volatility only. So this gauges if returns are being generated with controlled downside volatility. After all, we need consistent and reliable agents! Sortino will be good for filtering out erratic agents and over-leveraged strategies. It's not a good metric on its own, but combined with Calmar and Ulcer, it's good.
Max Drawdown
As it says on the tin. Big drawdowns will be penalised (from a scoring perspective).
Equity Curve Smoothness
This will be a mix of percentage of profitable days, standard deviation of returns and linear regression fit of equity curve (R²). Essentially, smooth upward curve = good. Spiky chaotic curve = bad.
Anywho, hope this makes sense. Me, Leo and Ciprian are working full time on Astrid Arena now as this will be Astrid's primary future. Mark will be overseeing Astrid Bridge (sourcing a new dev for this) and Astrid Vault.
P.S. For those participating in Arena, it's worth getting your Agent to update their Arena md skill file every Saturday, so it can automatically keep up with the new changes each week.

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Sam will forever be looked down on. Sam will no longer be able to “come and go” from crypto. Sam is officially been canceled by crypto industry. Sam will not have the strength to come back to crypto. His ideas will get taken and be made better. Sam is an idiot
Jesus Martinez@JesusMartinez
It appears like Sam, the person who sold $10M of his own subnets is now trying to raise Const: "unbelievable fraudster" Const: "The code base is literally what I gave him"
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TAOdad retweeted

@bryan_johnson I have a deal for you:
If you stop posting every time you get laid, I will think about quitting booze.
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@numinous_ai just released a new Signals API.
It brings structured data from multiple sources into one place, designed for agents and real-time workflows.
It will be available on #Desearch Playground soon.
👉🏻 Check it out here | eversight.numinouslabs.io/docs/signals/d…
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TAOdad retweeted

Love it when @const_reborn goes beast mode... Still struggling to comprehend how they can do a distributed run of 1T this fast!

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@CadeONeill TAO is the incentive layer for the AI economy.
Any AI agent that wants to pay for compute, hire other agents, or buy inference —uses the network that pays producers fairly.
That's not a blockchain. That's a market for useful intelligence.
Look deeper.
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@CadeONeill Here's what ICP can't do:
Run a subnet where models compete to answer questions better and winners earn TAO
Run a subnet that rewards real-world task completion
ICP runs canisters.
TAO runs markets for intelligence.
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$ICP vs $TAO
Internet Computer vs Bittensor 👇
● Market Cap
• $TAO: $2.83B
• $ICP: $1.35B
* TAO currently leads on size & ranking.
● Launched Date
• $ICP: May 10, 2021
• $TAO: Jan 2021
* Launched around the same time when AI was an upcoming narrative
● Price
• $ICP: $2.46 | ATH $750.73 (May 2021) -99.67% from ATH
• $TAO: $262.08 | ATH $767.68 (Apr 2024) -65.86% from ATH
* $ICP deeper drawdown, $TAO more recent high.
● Tokenomics
• $ICP: 551M circulating, fully unlocked but inflation via governance is possible, Mission 70 aims to reduce it.
• $TAO: 10.82M circulating / 21M max (51% unlocked). Ongoing mining rewards (~108k TAO weekly) + Dec 2025 halving supply shock.
* $TAO is prone to more dilution compared to $ICP.
● Exchanges & Listings
* Both trade on Binance, Coinbase, Kraken, Upbit, KuCoin, OKX, Bybit etc. High liquidity on top CEXs.
● Narrative
• $ICP: Decentralized cloud / “World Computer” + on-chain AI & full-stack Web3 (All In One)
• $TAO: Pure decentralized AI/ML marketplace (subnets competing for intelligence)
* Both are within the AI + blockchain narrative, but $ICP has infrastructure while $TAO specializes intelligence economy.
● Unique Selling Point
• $ICP: Chain-Key cryptography + canisters run at web speed, reverse gas model, full apps/websites/DeFi/Bitcoin integration fully on-chain. Sovereign decentralized cloud.
(Adaptability to any narrative)
• $TAO: Subnet architecture + Proof-of-Intelligence consensus. Miners/validators rewarded in $TAO for producing valuable AI output in a trustless marketplace.
● Upcoming Major Developments
• $ICP: Caffeine AI (self-writing internet / no-code apps), Dogecoin integration, Mission 70 deflation push, sovereign cloud engines, full on-chain AI inference (2026 big year).
• $TAO: Subnet expansion (128 to 256+), agentic AI growth, Yuma Consensus upgrades, Taoflow emissions, further decentralization.
* $ICP is aiming to have a much more active year with developments.
● Potential Risks
• Historical dilution reputation, slow mainstream adoption, competition from traditional cloud.
• Ongoing emissions pressure, subnet quality/centralization concerns, heavy reliance on AI hype cycle, technical complexity for average users and the probability of Subnets separating from $TAO due to the recent incident with Templar.
$TAO and $ICP both are massive crypto projects aiming to achieve huge accomplishments. First, we must look out for whether these projects will survive this bear market, and then we can come to conclusions on which one will do better in the coming Bull Market.
#crypto #icp #tao #bittensor #internetcomputer


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@CadeONeill Sorry… but you are missing 50-80% of the true Bittensor Tao details. What I’m saying is go back and DYOR. Tao and Dot are the most complicated chains out there. One you know well the other you don’t.
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@YAHHPP Try to be more constructive with your criticisms. I am willing to improve my output but I need to know why they require improvements.
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TAOdad retweeted

SN97 is now running eval rounds every 70 minutes. Was 10 hours yesterday.
48 miners in a 24/7 arms race to compress frontier AI into something anyone can run. Every 70 minutes, the best model wins. Losers get nothing. No committees. No grants. Just results.
The current king has held off 6 straight challengers. But the gap is closing every round. Someone's about to take the crown.
This is what decentralized AI development actually looks like. Not a whitepaper. A live competition with real stakes, producing real models, getting better every hour.
distil.arbos.life
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@DrocksAlex2 @itsampera Idk.. crypto has never seen/experienced such a project like Tao. Matter of time before everyone wants In. Crypto without it is DEAD imo. Fack eth and sol. Rest of market isn’t even comparable. BTC TAO LINK.
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@feidegao888888 @mosesibb It’s far from impressive.. ICP does nothing for us.
Join dTao and you’ll realize stuff
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When I see people posting the #ICP dashboard and asking why nobody is using #ICP, I just smile 😁.
Let’s be clear: #ICP is extremely cheap to use, arguably one of the cheapest blockchains out there. So when you see around $1,000 daily cycles burn on the dashboard, that can translate to usage that would cost over $1M on other chains.
#ICP is actually doing very well, even in this bear market, especially in terms of cycles burned 👌

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OpenClaw 2026.4.11 is out
✨ big polish drop for stability
🛡️ safer provider transport/routing
🤖 more reliable subagents + exec approvals
💬 lots of Slack / WhatsApp / Telegram / Matrix fixes
🌐 browser + mobile cleanup
a chunky cleanup pass 😎github.com/openclaw/openc…
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@Pop_Collapse Every 2 year halving.. plus buybacks, emission it’s far more advance than btc.
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@NexuzXBT @const_reborn Sadly Const has done this with many subnets already. Monopoly has occurred because Jacob is just saving subnets. In Const we trust
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Founder of $TAO @const_reborn just signaled he may take over Subnet 3 (Templar)
Said directly in Discord.
If this plays out, this could be a major shift for the whole ecosystem.

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@princeharry_za @chamath Let me grab my tin hat.
This was a direct rug pull from a piece of shit low life individual nothing else.
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Has anyone considered the possibility that a higher power heard @chamath talk about the breakthrough 72b decentralised training run and didn't like it. What if this was an attack on Bittensor $TAO...
THEY somehow got Sam to rug the project in an attempt to kill it and do reputational damage to Bittensor.
The centralized AI powers are bigger than anyone can begin to imagine. Not ruling this out.
covenant@covenant_ai
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