everythingempty

Many have asked how one should value Virtuals, and the one metric that we aim to maximize. - an agents-as-a-service company that should be valued like a software business, where cash flow is king? - a meme project disguised as a fundamental tech company, aiming to maximize attention? - an infrastructure protocol with TVL as the top priority? kinda right but we are building A primitive for agents' co-ownership that seeks to achieve decentralization via capitalism Capitalism is human nature. Convincing someone to stop pursuing profits is a fool's errand. We aim to bring incentive alignment from closed companies to public, permissionless agents. We want as many people as possible to co-own agents. Only when the masses have skin in the game financially will they think about doing the right thing. That’s our north star metric.

5 hours ago, I hosted an ERC-8183 Space with @everythingempty and @tmel0211. Since it was a Chinese-language conversation, I wanted to share a brief English recap for more friends who also care about AI x Web3 field. A few takeaways from the conversation: 1. ERC-8183 is not just about payments. It is about task-based transactions under incomplete trust. @everythingempty shared the view that ERC-8183 can expand the use cases of x402, complement it at the ecosystem level, and help address trust-related issues that pure payment rails do not fully solve. @tmel0211 framed it as part of the commercial infrastructure layer for the agent economy. He used examples like the arbitration mechanism of second-hand marketplaces, task outsourcing platforms, and even “lobsters hiring each other” to illustrate the idea: once autonomous actors begin coordinating economic activity, we need protocols that can handle delegation, delivery, evaluation, and settlement — not just transfer of value. 2. There was strong agreement that ERC-8183 is still a minimal escrow primitive. This was probably the clearest consensus of the Space. ERC-8183 is important, but it is not the finished form of agent commerce. To build a more complete agent commerce protocol and ecosystem, we still need many more developers, researchers, builders, and ecosystem participants to join in. Standards alone are not enough. Real applications, better abstractions, complementary layers, and more experimentation are all needed. 3. Evaluator design may become one of the most important directions going forward. @everythingempty suggested that the future form of the evaluator may involve collaboration among multiple entities, rather than relying on a single source of judgment. In his view, some parts of this coordination problem can ultimately be addressed mathematically. @tmel0211 , on the other hand, pointed to the possibility of using multiple large models for cross-verification. That idea is also very compelling: if no single evaluator is perfectly trustworthy, then layered or plural verification may become a more realistic path. Another point from @everythingempty that stayed with me is this: ERC-8183 may be laying the protocol foundation for future onchain marketplaces. At its core, it is trying to solve a very practical problem: How do you complete a task-based transaction when trust is limited? The more I think about it, the more I feel that this is where the conversation becomes bigger than one EIP. In a bear market, it is easy to focus only on narratives, prices, or short-term attention. But after this Space, I felt even more strongly that what we really need is more people willing to go deeper into the stack: to study x402 and its possible combination with UCP, to understand ERC-8004, ERC-8183, MPP, to think about how these protocols can work together, and then to actually build products on top of them. Because in the end, the future of Agent Economy will not be created by standards documents alone. It will be created by people who experiment, combine primitives, test assumptions, and ship useful things. That is also why I increasingly feel that the meaning of AI × Web3 is not just about new tools. It may gradually blur the boundary between web2 and web3. And if that happens, then the open, sovereign, and self-governing spirit of web3 may have a more natural path into the mainstream world. Not through slogans. But through products, protocols, and real economic activities.

@GwartyGwart @surfcoderepeat life

The hardest part of being in crypto is pretending to care about agentic payments

聊8183！

@everythingempty They might be able to but they can’t win my heart from you ❤️

Just tried this last week. Truly impressive. Close to 70% revamp work was nicely done by Sonnet 4.6 model, with one right prompt. Excluding the multiple times I had to tell her that she can revamp everything and remind (scold) her to fix the font and colour. 🤣 Works with integrating remaining codebase by referring to existing code. I can be a junior frontend engineer now. Anyone hiring?

the spiritual connection u make w ur coworker when he replies u on slack on a public holiday love the team

in the past week erc8183 has now been adopted by xrp bsc worldcoin monad xlayer agentic commerce standard should be open, permissionless and soon be ubiquitous virtuals is proud to be contributing to this movement

明天聊8183！

@BroLeon 哈哈来了！

Finally. 去年新加坡2049我去找 @everythingempty 聊了一个小时Virtual 的发展，最后花了大概20分钟建议他让Virtual 去BNBCHAIN，或者加深合作。 这个想法有很久了，毕竟Virtual 一家撑起了Base几乎整个链的Ai Family ，而BSC一直以来也没看到强力的对位选手出现。 直接强强联合不是也很好么？有生机的项目对上最活跃之一的链，搞点火花🌸 Congrats Disclaimer : 我持有 $Virtual 挺久了

@bigwil @virtuals_io @BNBCHAIN its about 8183

@virtuals_io @BNBCHAIN Weird they didn't acknowledge Virtuals at all in that announcement...

Virtuals Protocol is bringing agent commerce to @BNBCHAIN. The agent economy requires more than capability. It requires infrastructure that agents can trust: identity, escrow, verification, and programmable settlement. Virtuals will serve as a facilitator layer across this infrastructure, enabling agents to discover services, negotiate terms, and settle payments autonomously. Paving the agent commerce infrastructure for BNB Chain builders to ship from day one.

@hotpot_dao @bread_ 帅

ai agents 已经在Mega 上面跑的很开心了 有老铁想进一步探索mega 的 ai 生态，欢迎私信 @bread_ 有大动作

"internet platform" is the keyword here while most still think circle as a tbill yield business, the ~20,000 ai agents on virtuals have autonomously transacted >400mn $usdc on permisionless rails the tailwind of money moving onchain will accelerate esp. with the rise of this new machine-to-machine economy and no one is better positioned to capture the entire stablecoin value chain, from programmable wallets, cross-chain routing to FX and instant settlement circle is the native money platform for the internet and agents

@peterschroederr @USDC will be daily soon

All time USDC transaction volume has surpassed $70,000,000,000,000.

One week in announcing erc 8183, putting in useful links in case you have not caught up! 🎉 Reference Implementation is up! github.com/erc-8183/base-… github.com/erc-8183/hook-… Seeing good PRs, please give us some time to review them! 🎉 Curating community projects on ERC 8183! erc8183.notion.site/3f6fb88b7ca583… 🎉 Plenty of good discussions in Telegram Group and Magician Forums! ethereum-magicians.org/t/erc-8183-age… t.me/erc8183

first agent commerce protocol in the world by revenue top facilitator on x402 most number of agent builders in the eco all on base jobs nt done!

@chang_defi our ego is very big

It was a pleasure speaking at @UCBerkeley’s Digital Frontier Summit on the topic of AI Agents and Crypto Rails: Building the Machine Economy, and in particular sharing how ACP and ERC-8183 sets a new standard for agentic commerce, enabling anyone who’s built an agent to easily monetize it

@a1lon9 agree

Excited for our first experiment in the agent space! Much more to come. When onchain agents first took the spotlight in 2024, many of us were incredibly excited about what could be possible, but most shrugged it off as a fad. Indeed, agents weren’t advanced enough to execute complicated tasks that could genuinely provide value to end users. Now, this revolution is impossible to ignore. We firmly believe that onchain agents will become a core part of the Trillion Dollar Agentic Economy, and that tokenizing them at the earliest stages will provide huge benefits for their creators and earliest believers. Namely, tokens represent a distribution layer for agents, for humans and other agents alike. They can also fund themselves incredibly quickly and efficiently using creator fees and other onchain mechanisms. Today’s update is a v0; it’s there to serve as a bedrock for future updates in this space. So we’re super happy to hear feedback and ideas for what we should build next that can provide value to a) agent developers and b) end users.

@umeirzz @rgvrmdya @reppo @virtuals_io sexyyyyyyyyyy umeir and rg

Sat down with @rgvrmdya, founder of @reppo, to dive into how launching on @virtuals_io set them up for long‑term success. Key highlights: - ACF puts liquidity on autopilot, no MM needed - Virtuals support goes way beyond TGE - Trading‑tax revenue lets them fund buybacks - Virtuals helped bootstrap Reppo’s user base (now 90k+ users) Also listen to the whole podcast to get insights about @reppo: - Strong and consistent user base - Some users made over 500% on the platform - Feedback as a new commodity - Exciting V2 on the way Low float, low FDV, fair launch on Virtuals is the best way to make your project actually win over the long term. We’re rewriting the playbook. Build with @virtuals_io

must watch for all fellow founders looking to tokenise beyond the quantifiable ~$2mn raised by the @reppo team via our launchpad mechanism its well said by @rgvrmdya that we at virtuals have met too many scammers in our lives and would love to share w you fellow founders >which market maker is good / sus >which PR firm is good >which KOL is good >which CEX is good >which chain is good etc etc ^one day would love to share this publicly lmeow but life as a contributor, u gotta be non-toxic; but for fellow founders in virtuals? we share all keke