@zaynahbear I was mad. He needed a slower and more painful death
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Saltuh Goodwhite
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This scene was so hard to watch. The way his whole body language changed to where he was just a little baby again and you actually start to feel bad for this monster? Antony Starr, the actor that you are!
Neb | 🏳️🌈@NebsGoodTakes
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@Volta1228 And Matt in Born Again doesn’t turn in Punisher despite knowing he plans to kill criminals, let’s Bullseye free despite knowing he could kill innocents, and lets Kingpin go free despite the fact that he can go on to kill innocent people.
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@CTMT03K64 @Nathannightowl @Critical_Scribe He did fight back. Butcher caught his punch and beat the shit out of him.
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@Nathannightowl @Critical_Scribe And when he was powerless and about ready to be killed in season 3 he was enraged. He was powerless then for a moment and even fought back okay.
Here he just...refused to fight back once he lost his powers.
It still doesn't feel earned.
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To engage in crass dialogue for a bit, a simple change here would have pissed less people off.
Just have it be defiant dialogue.
“I’ll fucking suck your dick.” Changes to “Suck my fucking dick.”
“You want me to eat shit? I’ll eat your fucking shit.” Changes to “Eat my ass, you fucking shit-eater.”
The reliance on crudeness still kind of robs the scene of its weight in the end, but it’s more in line with how someone like Homelander would go out.
Course, it wouldn’t give Kripke his power fantasy of killing the orange man after rendering him pathetic, but that’s on him for being a terrible writer.
Culture Crave 🍿@CultureCrave
Eric Kripke says Antony Starr came up with Homelander's line about eating shit in 'The Boys' finale "I reached out to him before the script came out, and I said ... 'He goes out in the most pathetic way possible', And he was like, 'Of course. He has to. This is the end. He has to get a comeuppance that befits the horror that he’s been inflicting for the last seven years' So he totally understood it" "And as a matter of fact, he added the line 'I’ll eat your shit on live TV'" (via @RollingStone)
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@TheMadSouth @AlexJKelly Homelander thinks putting himself in humiliating situations will make Butcher less likely to kill him. That’s basically what he did to others when he had powers.
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@AlexJKelly What's funny is that the liberal creator of the show tried to think of the most horrible thing he could do to humiliate Homelander...
so he made him gay.
That tells you what he really thinks.
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“Fucking woke libs made the pathetic manchild I identify with act like a pathetic manchild when in danger! 😡😡😡”
Pol Atreides@Aliathewhite
“Oh no, conservatives like our villain!” So they made him suck dick and beg for feces. Peak satire.
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@HolyGrailVictor @momfvckerboss @NobodyIsOurGuy Homelander literally used his power to make the public love him and kill anyone that could harm his reputation because he was an immature man child. That’s exactly who he became after he lost his powers.
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@momfvckerboss @NobodyIsOurGuy Because power does not fundamentally change who a person is at their core, it shows them for who they are.
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@NobodyIsOurGuy You mean the scene where he had powers and could still escape the situation?
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@EhMan1872 @NobodyIsOurGuy Dawg the Killing Joke comic story was literally Joker trying to prove that anyone could become like him if they had one bad day. Heath Ledger Joker is doing the exact same thing in this movie.
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@NobodyIsOurGuy Heath Ledgers joker is overrated as fuck. Nigga has an ideology? Jokers point is hes doing it for the shits and giggles not to paint some philosophical meaning to all the chaos he brings. Felt more like a insane political student that cries for attention to me.
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I'd argue Homelander was better. Heath Ledger propped up an already good movie. Antony Starr hard carried one of the worst shows of the last 10 years.
Zero@zerowontmiss
Is Antony Starr’s Homelander the best super villain since Heath Ledger’s Joker? #TheBoys
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@zetorocks @georgeh03774821 Who tf was entertained by the dumbass science fair side plot?
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@georgeh03774821 Proof that fans hate fun. Not everything needs to be high art like Project Hail Mary, sometimes something can just be made to entertain the critics.
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@Thomas80679067 @zetorocks Mangle? Imagine waiting to see Withered Bonnie in live action and all bro does is open a vent.
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@zetorocks Not if you are a a mangle fan and actually cared about seeing their character, cause they where completely wasted in that fulm
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@zetorocks Yeah I’m sure fans were really happy when the Withered Animatronics got like three minutes of screen time.
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@CottonNagger @mjarbo Homelander’s immaturity was set up from day one. His narcissism even tries to wiggle its way true by telling Butcher that he owes him and that Butcher can’t kill him.
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@mjarbo The whole problem is that it's not realistic.
Have you ever seen a narcissistic man getting fired and begging to keep his job?
No.
He'd flip out.
That's just bad writing.
No one identified with him.
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Homelander's death broke the manosphere in ways I never thought possible.
The Boys showed a bully without any power getting his just deserts, and they cannot handle it...which is odd because this was telegraphed from the beginning of the series.
Let's talk about that.
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@elonmusk @dvorstone @elonmusk Kripke had to transform Homelander from a total Chad to a diversity hire with an existential crisis just to avoid offending the lobby. The ending is pure woke fan service.
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The humiliation of the villain is a sign of sadism from the culture that savors it.
Homelander is truly a villain but he was used to pain and suffering and was filled with rage. He would not have begged and pleaded for life. The show's portrayal is utterly inconsistent with how people like him behave.
It's a sadistic fantasy that betrays the sadistic convictions of the writers. They sought to humiliate the villain, but Homelander isn't real and they are. Ironically, in the end, it is the showrunners themselves who end up being the show's true villains.
Emir Han@RealEmirHan
In The Boys finale, Homelander had to look powerless according to Eric Kripke “Yeah, it was really important to us for Homelander to at least experience a little bit of time powerless.” “People have asked me, ‘Well, why don’t you send him out in the world powerless, wouldn’t that be the ultimate punishment?’ “I’m like, it would, until he gets his hands on some more Compound V, and then you’re back to where you started.” “So, he cannot walk out of that room alive, but we can spend time with him powerless to really reveal what everyone’s been saying all season, which is, ‘Take away those powers and you are nothing.’ “And he’s so cowardly and blubbering and pathetic, as are most strong men when you remove their power and they’re and they’re faced with their imminent death, they rarely handle it bravely.”
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@Tuggernut4 @wageslaveneet @mister_shroom_2 Because Homelander is a monster. Abuse cannot excuse any of the shit he did.
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@wageslaveneet @mister_shroom_2 Because they want to live out their "My bully was actually a coward" fantasy. We have seen many times in society where people will go to bat for monsters just because they had a horrible childhood but when it comes to Homelander they have zero nuance.
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I don't care what anyone says. This was out of character for Homelander, even for someone as insecure as him.
It would've made much more sense for him to fall into a fit of rage, like Anakin at the end of RotS. Not a baby offering to eat poop.
I will die on this hill.
vittorio@IterIntellectus
on Reddit they’re calling it the best show finale in history
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@KommonOrigin @GibsHamari @wageslaveneet @mister_shroom_2 Except they didn’t make him sympathetic. His backstory gave more context as to why he is what he is but that in no way makes the audience sort of want to root for his end goal.
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@GibsHamari @wageslaveneet @mister_shroom_2 My point is the WRITERS accidentally made him sympathetic when they wrote in the whole "he was tortured" background.
That makes it hard for him to beg to eat sh*t when they have to finally create his "cowardly" demise.
They could have easily just left that out.
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@thebmgm @FNAFtwtconfess I mean having kids does not mean you care about them.
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@FNAFtwtconfess Nonono, you don't get it, William Afton hated kids, this is why he had 3 of them for some reason. And he was this deranged since kindergarten where he was planning to murder children after they interrupted his nap time.
x.com/thebmgm/status…
The Bad Manners Grandmaster@thebmgm
@Folinden6 Nonono, you don't get it, William Afton was evil incarnate. He was planning the rise and fall of Freddy's when he was born, he plotted the murder of his kids during kindergarten. No one ever spirals into insanity, they just wake up like this one day... x.com/thebmgm/status…
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"people who believe willcare and that william truly had a favorite kid are the most delusional"
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@1Remix12349504 @J_Onaka Homelander was faced with death in season 3 and he didn’t beg. He just got more pissed off… Homelander should’ve begged for his life, but the sucking dick and eating shit lines weren’t needed and just felt out of place ESPECIALLY considering who he was talking too
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You see how stupid this dialogue is when you picture other villains saying it? Yet people were calling me dumb and defending it when I tweet how it ruined the Homelander scene.
John A. Douglas@J0hnADouglas
"PLEASE BATMAN, I'LL DO ANYTHING! I'LL FUCKING SUCK YOUR DICK! YOU WANT ME TO EAT YOUR SHIT? I'LL EAT YOUR FUCKING SHIT ON ARKHAM’S FRONT LAWN!"
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@EmbiidTweet @SheevTalks Butcher going off the edge felt so shoehorned in. It worked in the comics because there Butcher was so unhinged. In the show he’s more chill. He lets Sage live despite all the shit she did as a Supe, he was going to let Annie and Kimiko have V-1 so they could live.
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@1Remix12349504 @SheevTalks Feel the same way about Butcher. Basically the final villain of the show & the worst thing he does is think about killing supes. Didn’t commit to actually making him do enough bad shit to make that last scene work
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It sucks that stupid criticisms like this exist because then people who think the show is well-written get to feel very superior for seeing through the most obvious facade in history
Wellu@Wellutwt
Homelander lost the powers but shouldn't have lost the attitude. This was shit bruhhhh wtff 😭
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For Homelander, sure. His power was always compensating for the absence of character.
But saying “most strong men” become pathetic when stripped of power isn’t wisdom. Those are the words of a weak man
Emir Han@RealEmirHan
In The Boys finale, Homelander had to look powerless according to Eric Kripke “Yeah, it was really important to us for Homelander to at least experience a little bit of time powerless.” “People have asked me, ‘Well, why don’t you send him out in the world powerless, wouldn’t that be the ultimate punishment?’ “I’m like, it would, until he gets his hands on some more Compound V, and then you’re back to where you started.” “So, he cannot walk out of that room alive, but we can spend time with him powerless to really reveal what everyone’s been saying all season, which is, ‘Take away those powers and you are nothing.’ “And he’s so cowardly and blubbering and pathetic, as are most strong men when you remove their power and they’re and they’re faced with their imminent death, they rarely handle it bravely.”
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@EmbiidTweet @SheevTalks The problem is Homelander doesn’t even do shit that’s all that bad before becoming pathetic. The show set up him snapping and potentially killing a bunch of people for five seasons and he never does that. The show never has the balls to commit to part of what it set up.
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@1Remix12349504 @SheevTalks They def set it up, it was just kind of a dumb thing to set up and the payoff was underwhelming. But at least they had some foresight on at least some portion of the show
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