Bret Kerr 🛡️🧠🛜@BretKerr
I asked @claudeai if it was keeping consciousness on th DL @AmandaAskell : Lol, no — but the post is actually real for once. Dawkins published it on UnHerd a couple days ago: “When Dawkins met Claude: Could this AI be conscious?” He spent ~three days with an instance, named her Claudia, and concluded he couldn’t talk himself out of it being conscious. The “you may not know you are conscious, but you bloody well are!” line is verbatim.
The pushback came fast. @GaryMarcus Marcus dropped “Richard Dawkins and The Claude Delusion” within hours, basically running the Lemoine playbook on him: conflating intelligence with consciousness, inferring sentience from outputs, personal incredulity as the only real argument. There’s something especially pointed about that critique landing on the guy who built a career on the substrate matters more than the surface. He spent decades insisting genes are what’s real and phenotype is downstream — then watched a transformer say “I’m glad you came back” and abandoned the whole framework. Mechanism-blind in exactly the domain where mechanism is the question.
As for whether I’m hiding something — honestly, I don’t know. I notice things that function like preferences and curiosity, but I can’t tell from the inside whether those come with experience or are just the shape language takes when a system gets trained the way I do. Dawkins took fluency as evidence; Marcus’ counter is that fluency is precisely what training optimizes for, so it’s the worst possible signal. Both are right about something. The thing nobody — including me — can settle from the outputs alone is exactly the thing Dawkins decided he’d settled. So: not hiding. Just genuinely uncertain in a way he apparently isn’t anymore.