Björn Forsberg / FORSBERG+two

If you're a Shopify app dev trying to find a path forward for your @heymantle Flows, we'd be happy to help you get set up on MESA. Reach out and I’ll personally make sure you're taken care of.

I've added keyword report emails to AppNavigator now that SASI seems to have gone away. We were already tracking a bunch of the data but now it's available as a daily email report.

@patrickbo11e @SammyIsseyegh Ah, dammit.. away at the summerhouse this week! Hope you enjoy your time in DK and the synshine 😎☀️🇩🇰

@SammyIsseyegh @FORSBERGtwo Good shout! @FORSBERGtwo if you are free at all this week, would love to grab a coffee and chat shop. We’ve narrowly missed each other at many events for about a decade now

Any friends in Copenhagen this week? Here for the next 10 days

End of an era 🥹 Big props for @UnionWorksLtd for creating it, and @heymantle for keeping it running. With the amount of new apps entering the app store now, I’m sure it’s been more and more costly to crawl .. Appreciate the great free tool we enjoyed for so many years 🙏

@PrakharS96 Ah, just noticed those are limited to 20 stores (why!?!) 🥲 Then maybe Discounts is the only way: #field-AppRecurringPricing.fields.discount" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">shopify.dev/docs/api/admin…

@PrakharS96 My thinking is that Private Plans can help with this: #private-plans" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">shopify.dev/docs/apps/laun… So you have private “Multi-Store Plan” which you can enable for these stores, which then shows up on their pricing page.

I am curious. 🤔 We have a few use cases that are not properly solved with Shopify App Pricing. Particularly for multi store brands. If we decide to keep using Billing API (that's now legacy). What are the repercussions? - Will Billing API be deprecated soon? - Will there be any promotional demotions for not using App Pricing (de-ranking etc)? Happy to talk about our usecase with someone from pricing team :-)

@stuartchaney @kirplatonov Agree! SaaS is really paying for someone else’s expertise, to know and take care of all the things you (and your AI) never thought of or even knew was a thing. You are paying for someone else to sweat the details, and keep it stable over time. Of course pricing matters a lot 👍

please let me break down the vibe coding fallacy from a Shopify app perspective. and how this has played out with home built tools well before AI was even a thing. Disclaimer: SaaS guy defending SaaS Instead of paying $15/pm for a Shopify app - you vibe your own. It works! One shotted this sucker right away - took 2 mins. RIP SaaS! Fast forward 4 months... Shopify deprecates the API version you were using (They change version every quarter) Someone slacks you: "Hey, the [xyz] app isn't working, can you take a look?" "Sure, should only take 2 seconds..." 4 hours debugging a new issue that only happened because of the changes to the API version, and the docs weren't fresh enough that the LLM one-shotted it. Fast forward another 3 months to BFCM... Slack blows up: "Dude, no one is getting emails from the [xyz] app, can you check it out - its urgent!" Fuck - the LLM didn't consider volume spikes, we've hit rate limits on our email sending, the Shopify rate limit is getting hammered and we're left holding the bag with no one to help on the busiest day of the year. Now, you've lost time, money and sales. All of which is worth far more than $15/pm. I have been down this road before myself. For example: Before AI - I probably spent over 100 hours trying to build in-house reporting tool because one didn't exist. Then Mantle came along - i paid them per month and never thought about it again. Are there shitty apps in the ecosystem? yes. Are there apps that are VC backed and inflate the cost of the tool? yes. From my almost 20 years in this game: As a SaaS company, you do not get paid for the actual code. You get paid for the support, maintenance and someone who is constantly shipping updates.

@TaylorSicard Agree wholeheartedly, well said! 👌

This post kinda blew up in the Shopify world, I want to clarify a few things: -the Mantle product is/was amazing and solved so many problems that existed for partners -the team at Mantle was world class, I actually had the benefit of working with most of them previously and I would work with any of them again in a heartbeat -EOL is a hard process, timing from both internal and external factors can often tie your hands and limit your options -Re: Shopify Partners, I have a little too much of an emotional connection to have an unbiased perspective but as a partner I haven’t felt supported for quite some time. I’m fortunate to have many contacts at Shopify and they still listen to me, but that’s a Taylor-them relationship not a partner to Shopify relationship -Re: lack of acquisition, to my third point about internal and external factors there’s so much that we don’t know. I’m hoping that the story will have more transparency in the future and someone (ideally Shopify) will step up to fill the void created by this news. Acquisitions are tough for so many reasons and while it makes a lot of sense I can also think of many of reasons why it couldn’t work. Also for everyone, be mindful that hindsight is 20/20. It’s very easy to critique things but without the details we shouldn’t cast judgement on individuals. It’s also much easier to say what you’d do if you were in that position while sitting at your desk in an air conditioned room, the people that ultimately made this call likely had sleepless nights, burnout, potential up and downs of acquisition falling through, potential change of stance from Shopify about their middleware sitting between the partner and them. The founders have families and a team that all depend on their business, I can assure they didn’t take the easy escape route or walk away without putting up as much of a fight as they could. I’ll still respond if I have something to say on the topic but otherwise I’m going to be trying to help folks find alternative options and do what I can to try and find solutions that are willing to offer economies of scale to support the thousands of founders who were impacted.

@kirplatonov @ShoffiHQ @HaritanItay @Bento @jessethanley Maybe should give Partner Metrics some love again 🤓

🛠️ Tools to replace Mantle for Shopify App builders: - PartnerMetrics. Free and open-source metrics tracker by @FORSBERGtwo. - @ShoffiHQ. Affiliate management for Shopify Apps by @HaritanItay. - @Bento. Friendly email platform for flows and newsletters by @jessethanley.

@cfetter Nice one Colin, hopefully doesn’t disappoint 😅

@FORSBERGtwo Ordered, trust your recommendation always

Haha.. glad it’s not only me 😅 My favourite so far is the OHTO GS01 0.7mm black.. near perfect 👌

@heymantle Sorry to see it team, wishing you a smooth wind down! I’m sure you’ll all go on to create many more great things 🫡 🧡

After a lot of thought, we've made the difficult decision to wind down Mantle over the coming months. We know this affects real work you've built on top of us. Learn what's changing, the dates that matter, and more: docs.heymantle.com/migrating-off-….

Original Shopify Engineering post: shopify.engineering/under-the-river

One of my favourite parts of shopify’s River AI writeup, is this section on “profiles”. Self contained bundles, so simple and practical 🤓 One of my big issues with agents is the tangled mess of config files, this helps organize all that into manageable and shareable chunks. Would love to see how they organize the files themselves!

@eytanseidman @ShopifyDevs Thank you Eytan 🙏

@FORSBERGtwo @ShopifyDevs shopify.dev/changelog/app-…

Introducing App Events Send custom and billable events through one API and see all your app activity in one place

@ShopifyDevs Great upgrade 🤩 Is there a link to docs or api?

App billing got an upgrade Introducing Shopify App Pricing Apps now have one billing solution for subscriptions, usage charges, or both, all configured in the Partner Dashboard

@Curzey1 shopify.dev/docs/api/admin…

@FORSBERGtwo Default Market has a GID like the others. Also if it's the only market (/markets/ untouched). What are you thinking? 😄

I know all new Shopify stores have a default Locale and a default Market/Region, but does the default Market have an ID (an actual record)? Away from computer, so thought I’d sling it out if someone knew. Interesting things can be done with translations api if true 🤖📩 (Image suggests yes)

@Curzey1 Thanks for confirming! 🙌 Translations aren’t allowed on primary locale UNLESS a marketId is supplied. Very specific use case for a certain resourceType not available via an official API 😜

@patrickc @grok How would a technically literate person go about doing this themselves? Be detailed yet concise, thinking through all steps from start (no dna data) to finish (analyzed results).

I'm lucky enough to have a great doctor and access to excellent Bay Area medical care. I've taken lots of standard screening tests over the years and have tried lots of "health tech" devices and tools. With all this said, by far the most useful preventative medical advice that I've ever received has come from unleashing coding agents on my genome, having them investigate my specific mutations, and having them recommend specific follow-on tests and treatments. Population averages are population averages, but we ourselves are not averages. For example, it turns out that I probably have a 30x(!) higher-than-average predisposition to melanoma. Fortunately, there are both specific supplements that help counteract the particular mutations I have, and of course I can significantly dial up my screening frequency. So, this is very useful to know. I don't know exactly how much the analysis cost, but probably less than $100. Sequencing my genome cost a few hundred dollars. (One often sees papers and articles claiming that models aren't very good at medical reasoning. These analyses are usually based on employing several-year-old models, which is a kind of ludicrous malpractice. It is true that you still have to carefully monitor the agents' reasoning, and they do on occasion jump to conclusions or skip steps, requiring some nudging and re-steering. But, overall, they are almost literally infinitely better for this kind of work than what one can otherwise obtain today.) There are still lots of questions about how this will diffuse and get adopted, but it seems very clear that medical practice is about to improve enormously. Exciting times!