Jared Edwards

@kemba2tatum @FatherChrisVor1 Because your creed says so?

@JEdwardsUtah @FatherChrisVor1 Yeah therefore you are not Christian

A Mormon recently asked: “If Mormons are, by definition, not Christian, then what is, by definition, a Christian?” And honestly, that conversation becomes unhelpful very quickly because people often make it deeply personal. But it should not be personal. A Christian is someone baptized into and confessing the apostolic faith concerning the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. Christianity has always had boundaries, teachings, and creeds defining that faith. That is not hatred. Every religion on earth does this in some way. For Christians, the question is not: “Are Mormons nice people?” Many are kind, sincere, moral, and deeply devoted. The question is: “Does Mormonism teach the same God, Christ, and Gospel taught by the Church through the centuries?” And this is where the disagreement comes. Christianity teaches there is one eternal God. (Deuteronomy 6:4) It teaches the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are one God, not three separate exalted beings. It teaches Christ is the eternal Word who “was God.” (John 1:1) And from the earliest centuries, Christians guarded these beliefs through creeds, councils, worship, preaching, baptism, and the writings of the Fathers. So when Christians say Mormonism is not Christianity in the historic theological sense, they are not usually saying: “We hate Mormons.” Or: “Mormons are evil.” They are saying Mormon theology departs fundamentally from the Christian understanding of God, Christ, and salvation handed down through the centuries. People can disagree with that conclusion. But it is important to understand what Christians actually mean when they say it.

@JasontheLayman Amigo just can't help but fulfill the words of Joseph.

One of the central themes to the Book of Mormon is that God changed his mind and sent some of His chosen people to a new Promised Land in the Americas, which is complete nonsense. These are supposed to be Israelites, but where are the festivals or celebrations mentioned in this fictional tale? No Passover, Day of Atonement, or Feast of Shelters. These are not just deeply rooted traditions, but are part of the Law prescribed by God through Moses, and are observed throughout the biblical narrative. Just something else to consider when claiming the Book of Mormon is inspired text, which it clearly is not. Please do not ignore the countless red flags in your book of fables. I hope you're keeping track of all these inconsistencies and contradictions. God allowed Joseph Smith to make all of these errors as a lifeline to escape out of the enemy's bondage. Flee from the LDS city of destruction.

@PearlKevinPrice Can explain how millions upon millions of people have read the Book of Mormon and received a powerful witness from God that its contents testify that Jesus is the Christ? This is the hurdle you must clear, and quite frankly, it's impossible for anyone to do so.

Mormons refuse to acknowledge the possibility of Joseph Smith having prepares for months or years before dictating the Book of Mormon. Against Edward’s wishes I asked his own question to Gemini and I am even more convinced that Smith deeply rehearsed the BoM. Read what AI said:

@readDanwrite @CriddleBenjamin Utah fans:

Fmr Knicks pres and Utah alum Dave Checketts: "What the University of Utah has done is kind of sell off their sports program b/c they want a better stadium and a basketball building, and they want it now. They kind of sold off their future." Full convo: frontofficesports.com/videos/18-year…

@rand_longevity The biggest issue with this line of thinking is the belief that the government could competently come up with a solution before complete catastrophe.

400 days from now, nobody will be waking up for work or school

@GenFlynn @elonmusk One of Jesus Christ's modern-day apostles.

America the Beautiful 🙏🏼🇺🇸 Don’t write checks with your tongues that your conduct cannot cash. Good Sunday morning. @elonmusk

@jennycKreative @BasedMikeLee

@JEdwardsUtah @BasedMikeLee Jeez, do you want him to get off your lawn too? 🙄

Raise your hand if you relate

the problem with joining mormonism is that it presents a certain reverse pascals wager. i'm happy with the terrestrial kingdom, it seems fine. if i became mormon, that'd risk me/ my children going to Outer Darkness which is bad. not worth it

@TribeRuffner Because if it's true, then ALL of it is true -- everything the Church of Jesus Christ teaches and proclaims is true. I testify that it is.

How can this book, even if it were true (it's not) be more important than the Bible itself? I mean what are we even doing here guys... When does the insanity end? I guess never...

@BYUFlorida @TotalBlueSports Doesn't matter. Utah is B10 bound because they're like a super, massive brand. Just ask any Utah fan.

Wasn’t there a Ute fan that made his tag “full share Ute” only for BYU to dominate with a half share AND still get more overall revenue.

@microbrandon @BenBird53920553 I don't even know what you're trying to say at this point.

"They are literally referred to as their own worlds." But we are talking about the designation "kingdom". Nowhere are they designated as such. "Worlds" and "Kingdoms" are not synonymous. Go back through D&C 76, and 84 for that matter, and compare how the word "kingdom" is used, and how the word "world" is used. You will see there is a difference. And that "kingdom" always refers back to God the Father and his all-encompassing dominion, which includes the worlds stated. "D&C 88 also refers to them as separate KINGDOMS." Show me. "Here is a talk by our Prophet referring to them as different kingdoms (it's in the name of his talk)." Yes. I understand how it is currently taught and portrayed. I don't think the point I am making is detracting at all from that. But when we get into the nitty-gritty questions, such as the one the OP asked, we need to get a little deeper in our understanding. "This is not tradition. This is doctrine." There is an underlying doctrine on the degrees of glory in the eternities. That concept is easy to understand using the framework of "kingdoms".

Let's say a woman makes it to the top level of the Celestial Kingdom, where everybody has at least one spouse, (D & C 131: 1 - 4) but her husband does not. He goes to the Telestial. Will she will be married to someone else in the afterlife? What's the official church teaching?

@microbrandon @BenBird53920553 They are literally referred to as their own worlds. D&C 88 also refers to them as separate KINGDOMS. Here is a talk by our Prophet referring to them as different kingdoms (it's in the name of his talk). This is not tradition. This is doctrine. churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-…

@JEdwardsUtah @BenBird53920553 Yes. Those are all within the Kingdom of God. But they are never called "kingdoms" unto themselves.

@microbrandon @BenBird53920553 Sure thing. Each of these verses mention either the terrestrial or telestial kingdoms as worlds. D&C 76:71 D&C 76:98 D&C 76:109 **For future reference, the gospel tools app has a "find on page" function that allows you to quickly find text within a chapter.

@JEdwardsUtah @BenBird53920553 show me

@microbrandon @BenBird53920553 D&C 76 specifically refers to them as separate worlds with separate glories.

@JEdwardsUtah @BenBird53920553 That is tradition. Read the scriptures. God's Kingdom is always associated post-resurrection, in which a person will be resurrected to a weight of glory. There are no separate kingdoms. It is one Celestial Kingdom.

@microbrandon @BenBird53920553 This is incorrect. We absolutely teach three distinct kingdoms as well as 3 degrees of glory in the Celestial kingdom. Kingdoms of Glory churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/g…

You err in your understanding. There is one kingdom. It is God’s kingdom. People are resurrected to weights of glory within this Celestial Kingdom. One does not go to a “Telestial” kingdom. One is resurrected to “Telestial” glory within God’s kingdom, or the Celestial Kingdom. The “Telestial” glory is associated with a type of heaven within this Celestial Kingdom.

@FatherChrisVor1 Thanks for the explanation. In The Catholic faith, is there a hierarchy of beings? Are those with bodies more powerful than angels or vice versa?

Scripture tells us that a rebellion took place among the angels before the foundation of the world. Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 speak to the fall of the one who exalted himself against God. Revelation 12 gives us the war in heaven, Michael and his angels driving out the dragon and those who followed him. The Fathers always understood this not as two equal powers in conflict but as a creature in full revolt against his Creator. Satan was never God’s rival. He was a defeated rebel the moment he turned. Now as for whether angels eventually receive bodies, this is where Christianity has always been very clear. Angels are a distinct order of being. They were created as angels, they exist as angels, and that is what they will always be. They are not souls on their way somewhere else, not spirits waiting for the next stage. When Scripture calls Michael an archangel, it means exactly that. Here is something worth sitting with. Angels are persons without bodies, and that is not a deficiency or an incompleteness. It is simply their nature. We are persons with bodies, and the resurrection glorifies that nature forever. God made two different kinds of creature, both beloved, both serving Him, and neither one is becoming the other. The Creed says it simply. God is the maker of all things visible and invisible. The angels belong to that invisible creation, whole and complete exactly as He made them.

@PetGorilla How did Satan come to be?

@_OKJ__ The Book of Mormon and the doctrine of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints answers all of these questions and shows us that God loves all of His children and has a plan for all of us.

Proper Christian dilemma. Kelvin: Pastor, according to the Bible, people are saved by accepting Jesus into their hearts, right? David Oyedepo: Yes. Salvation comes through Christ alone. Kelvin: Then I have a question. What happened to all the indigenous peoples of the Americas and Africa before European colonization? Entire civilizations existed for centuries without ever hearing about Jesus. Oyedepo: God is merciful, kelvin. Kelvin: But were they saved or not? Oyedepo: The Bible says Christ is the only way to the Father. Kelvin: Exactly. So were the Aztecs, Maya, Inca, and countless native tribes in Africa condemned simply because nobody reached them with the gospel of Jesus? Oyedepo: We cannot fully understand the mysteries of God’s judgment. Kelvin: But surely there are only two possibilities. Oyedepo: Go on. Kelvin: Either people who never heard of Jesus can still be saved… Oyedepo: God may judge people according to how well they lived their lives, their works … or light available to them Kelvin: Okay, but if that’s true, then Christianity becomes unnecessary for salvation. Oyedepo: How do you mean? Kelvin: Because if isolated people can be saved without hearing about Jesus, then humanity doesn’t actually need Christianity. We could simply live our lives and be judged by our actions and conscience…just like those indigenous people supposedly would be. Oyedepo: Evangelism is still important. Kelvin: But not necessary for salvation in that case. If people can reach heaven without Christianity, then Christianity is irrelevant as a requirement for salvation. Oyedepo: Hmm. Kelvin: But the other option is worse. Oyedepo: Which is? Kelvin: That people who never heard the gospel are automatically condemned. Oyedepo: but The wages of sin is death. Kelvin: But they never rejected Jesus. They were simply born in the wrong place and time. They were ignorant through no fault of their own. Oyedepo: God’s ways are higher than ours. Kelvin: Then that would mean Christianity describes a being willing to punish billions of people eternally for circumstances completely outside their control. It could even be argued that evangelizing to people is more likely to take them to hell than heaven since if they could live their lives without learning about Christianity and still make heaven , learning about the gospel but rejecting it because they were not convinced would take them to hell regardless of how they lived their life. Which makes evangelism a net negative for salvation. Oyedepo: … Kelvin: So either people can be saved without Christianity…. making Christianity irrelevant for salvation…or they cannot, which makes the Christian system evil because innocent ignorance becomes grounds for eternal punishment. Oyedepo: Kelvin… Kelvin: Either Christianity is unnecessary, or it is morally monstrous. Oyedepo: We will be praying for you.