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Andreas Kleivset

@KleivZOP

Author of The Tech-Safe Parent 📖 | Software Engineer & Dad. Helping adult children protect aging parents from scams & tech chaos. 👇

Norway Katılım Kasım 2011
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They protected you, taught you, and kept you safe. Now, as the digital world gets wilder, it's your turn. Our aging parents face unprecedented online threats. This isn't just about tech; it's about safeguarding their peace, dignity, and savings. #TechSafeParent #FamilyProtection
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@BradMunchen You do you. I believe this will in fact increase road safety. This is a fact the statistics driven RDW also seems to believe, after testing the system themselves.
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Motorhead
Motorhead@BradMunchen·
Funny how this comes out just after the Netherlands approved use of FSD on their roads. Like I said: the EU regulators won't be able to stomach as many serious injuries & fatalities like NHTSA has. After all, the Pentagon can't influence EU traffic safety laws. $TSLA
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Insane Tesla story coming out of Norway today. You probably forgot about this weird Tesla crash from 2023 where a Model Y taxi had two bizarre 'sudden acceleration' crashes in just a few seconds. The driver claimed the car accelerated on its own and he was pressing the brake pedal. Tesla claimed its data shows he was pressing the accelerator. The driver was charged, but the charges were later dropped for lack of evidence, and there are indeed some serious problems with the evidence. While Tesla did share some telemetry data, the automaker claimed that the last 6 seconds were somehow missing. It turned out that someone went inside the vehicle, opened up the onboard computer, and removed the network card, which an expert believes would hold critical evidence. Everyone involved claims not to know where the card is.

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Hopefully we will be getting some HW3/V14 LITE news during the upcoming earnings call. Would be nice with a roadmap, for whats to come. @elonmusk @aelluswamy
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@Der_Boersianer It being able to react to an emergency situations quicker than a human, should be topping the list of reasons why. Also, this is a stepping stone towards unsupervised, current fsd still makes driving more relaxed, with the benefit of still being able to take control any time.
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Old School Investor 🇩🇪🤝🇺🇦
Old School Investor 🇩🇪🤝🇺🇦@Der_Boersianer·
Natürlich lassen die Tesla Fanboys in ihrer FSD-Euphorie dieses klitzekleine Detail weg. Was genau ist eigentlich der Sinn von einem "FSD", wenn man permanent aufmerksam alles beobachten muss? Also ernsthaft, das macht einfach Null Sinn.
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@fel_iix @wholemars False. Tesla already got full type approval for the entire FSD Supervised system from RDW. v14 Lite for HW3 would be covered under the same approval no separate process needed. v12-v13 simply didn’t meet RDW’s minimum safety metrics.
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Felix Wepunkt
Felix Wepunkt@fel_iix·
@wholemars I would, but you seem to have no idea about European approvals. If HW3 should get the V14 Lite, it is a separate software and needs a separate approval.
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Whole Mars Catalog@wholemars·
For Tesla owners in the Netherlands who got FSD, how did it feel to go from 6 year old basic Autopilot to the latest version of FSD with one software update?
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@pbeisel Compute is the main bottleneck. I do believe the cameras of HW3 will be enough. We could go into the details if you want.
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phil beisel
phil beisel@pbeisel·
FSD HW/SW Platforms Predictions/guesses: HW4 (AI4) vehicles will support Robotaxi (unsupervised FSD for Robotaxi). Cybercab will be moved to AI5 as soon as its available and will take priority (1st chip allocation). HW4 (AI4) vehicles will likely support customer-owned unsupervised. HW3 will NOT support any unsupervised version of FSD. A FSD supervised lite (version 14) will be the terminal release. As for HW3 vehicle upgrades: will be difficult. Its not just a board swap, its cameras too. I would think Tesla would be more inclined to offer incentives to purchase a new vehicle, but that is purely a business matter, not technical. And if they do, it will coincide with AI5 availability. In other words, HW3 -> AI5.
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@JonzTom @Tesler914 @Tesla Actually, Germany’s autonomous driving law (StVG) explicitly states the driver is NOT liable when an L3+ system is active, liability falls to the manufacturer. You’re inventing hypothetical laws to avoid admitting you’re wrong. Just take the L, man. 🤦‍♂️
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Kaffee- und Serienjunkie@JonzTom·
@KleivZOP @Tesler914 @Tesla If, for example, German law states that I am liable at SAE Level 5 because I put the vehicle into road traffic, then that's the way it is, regardless of who's driving and regardless of what Tesla says! Is that so hard for you to understand? 🤦
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rugbylawyer
rugbylawyer@Tesler914·
So the Regulators in the Netherlands have officially declared that $TSLA's Full Self Driving (FSD) is ONLY a Lv 2 ADAS platform. Is that what has the simps all excited about? Actually, this is a negative for $TSLA bc a Govt Regulators would not approve it for robotaxis. @Tesla 🤣
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Tesla Europe, Middle East & Africa@teslaeurope

De toekomst van mobiliteit is aangebroken FSD Supervised has been approved in the Netherlands 🇳🇱 & will begin rolling out in the country shortly!  Trained on billions of kilometers of real-world driving data, it can drive you almost anywhere under your supervision – from residential roads to city streets & highways No other vehicle can do this.  We're excited to bring FSD Supervised to more European countries soon

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@JonzTom @Tesler914 @Tesla SAE defines WHO is driving (L2=Human, L3=System). Local law assigns liability based on who drives. Tesla stays L2 so the human is liable under local law. You just proved my point. Thanks! 😂
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@JonzTom @Tesler914 @Tesla Nobody said assuming liability magically creates L3 tech. You need BOTH the tech AND the willingness to accept the legal fallback responsibility (which is what L3 defines). Tesla has the first, but avoids the second. Skoda has neither. We're done here 😂
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@JonzTom @Tesler914 @Tesla So the car is technically capable, but it’s still classed as L2... I wonder why? Oh right, because the manufacturer hasn't accepted the liability for the fallback yet. You just proved my entire point. Thanks! 😂
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@JonzTom @Tesler914 @Tesla Basic L2 cannot do coast to coast with zero interventions like FSD has demonstrated. Skoda has neither the tech nor unsupervised Robotaxi capabilities.
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Kaffee- und Serienjunkie@JonzTom·
@KleivZOP @Tesler914 @Tesla If Skoda assumes liability, then this Skoda can do that. That's what you said. And yes, on US highways, the basic Level 2 assist system in the car can easily drive from coast to coast.
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@JonzTom @Tesler914 @Tesla You asked Grok a narrow L4/L5 approval question correct, no application. SAE levels are self declared. Tesla could call current FSD L3+ today if they took the liability. They simply don’t want to yet.
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@JonzTom @Tesler914 @Tesla Nice try 😂 Your wife’s Skoda can’t do coast to coast with zero interventions or run unsupervised Robotaxi in Austin. Tesla’s FSD can, the tech exists. They just haven’t applied for L3+ type approval yet because they don’t want the liability on consumer cars.
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Kaffee- und Serienjunkie@JonzTom·
@KleivZOP @Tesler914 @Tesla Dann rufe ich gleich mal bei Skoda an und lasse einfach mal den Skoda meiner Frau zum SAE Level 5 erklären, vollkommen egal welche technischen Voraussetzungen er hat. 🤦🤡 Zum Glück gibt es Typ-Zulassung die entsprechende technische Voraussetzungen haben.
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@JonzTom @Tesler914 @Tesla They would still need to go through the approval process, but my point is, they currently won't. Not til they are ready, but to say it ain't coming is shortsighted.
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@JonzTom @Tesler914 @Tesla SAE defines the levels by who performs the DDT. Tesla is already running unsupervised Robotaxi in Austin and owners have completed coast to coast trips with zero interventions. They could classify FSD as L3+ today if they accepted the responsibility they simply don’t want to yet.
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@JonzTom @Tesler914 @Tesla The blog is just an announcement, not the standard. SAE J3016 (Table 1) defines the levels by who performs the Dynamic Driving Task: L2 = driver must supervise at all times. That’s exactly why Tesla stays at L2 (supervised).
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@JonzTom @Tesler914 @Tesla Actually, SAE levels are technical, but they are literally defined by who performs the Dynamic Driving Task and who bears responsibility. L2 = driver must supervise at all times and is liable. L3+ = system takes over DDT and liability shifts more to the manufacturer.
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@LJMBAU @SantoroSystems lmao. Self driving is AI work, and I fully support them discovering what is actually necessary for unsupervised first, before doing retrofits or taxing work for Hw3. Once unsupervised is solved, the models can be distilled for older hw.
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