Polarman
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Polarman
@Peteihfd
Formerly worked in civil aviation. Main interests are aviation, law, politics, walking, watercolour painting. Reposts are not endorsement.
Somewhere in the north Katılım Ağustos 2025
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If all humans suddenly lost the ability to lie, what industry would collapse first?
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@redrumlisa @UKChange No. Please look into the actual legislation which judges have to follow. You will be shocked.
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Investigate Judge Nicholas Rowland and Introduce a Judicial Accountability Framework Now - Sign the Petition! c.org/bWBykj9XWt via @UKChange
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@MWHoyle19 Preferred it when guidelines were exactly that. Now almost mandatory must follow. Of course the actual law is what matters.
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I agree with Ben that the job of the sentencing judge is largely just a decision tree because of the Sentencing Council's guidelines. On the other hand, the furore caused by some quarters when the government did a mild interference with the SC is worrying.
Ben Williams@FaringForwards
@trotter_alex @Ameer_Kotecha But in almost all cases (though perhaps not this one) the issue isn’t the judge. It the sentencing guidelines, which are ultimately political. The vast majority of “activist” judges are actually just faithfully applying bad laws made by politicians.
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@Lord_Talbot64 Could the judge have, exceptionally, not followed guidelines. Probably not because the actual law comes first.
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What Starmer fails to mention is the judge was following guidelines set out by the Sentencing Council of which Starmer was part.
Don Keith@RealDonKeith
🚨Keir Starmer announces the sentences of the three teenage rapists who avoided jail will go to the Court of Appeal. After huge public backlash over the soft justice handed to the boys who attacked two girls. Pressure finally forcing some action.
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Polygamy is illegal in the UK.
But if you’ve married 4 wives overseas and moved here, you could claim up to £78,000 in benefits. Paid for by British taxpayers.
That is absurd. Conservatives will end this.
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@KarlTurnerMP First, the voters must speak. Don't hold your breath. Trad Labour seats are disappearing.
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I look forward to working with Andy if he is elected as the MP for Makerfield. I am hugely excited to serve him in whatever capacity if we are fortunate enough to have him as our country’s Prime Minister.
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@cooksimon @aliciakearns Thanks - I dislike the phrase about not criminalising someone who is a convicted criminal. The remark points to a need for reform / rehabilitation which youth justice tries to achieve. The law is written that way.
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@Peteihfd @aliciakearns Putting that entirely to one side, the comments from the judge were indefensible
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I’m relieved the Attorney General has listened to public disgust at the sentences handed down, and most of all to the strength of the survivors.
Deterring rape in our country requires these boys to face lengthy prison sentences.
Attorney General's Office@attorneygeneral
Following a swift and detailed examination of the cases, the Attorney General has made the decision to refer the cases of the Fordingbridge Three to the Court of Appeal. It is now for the court to decide whether to increase the sentence. gov.uk/government/new…
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@NJ_Timothy Seems to anyone who actually looks at sentencing law that it was Tory governments that legislated most of it and made it what it is. Makes detention for this age group very difficult to impose.
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This is the right decision.
But it’s only happening because Conservative MPs referred the sentences as unduly lenient.
And it’s Labour policy to soften sentencing.
Early release… the abolition of short-term sentences… and now targets to stop under-18s going into custody.
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@Lord_Talbot64 The supposedly independent Attorney G ought to have announced this.
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Keir Starmer should not interfere in the judicial process. It is not the Prime Minister’s decision whether the sentences of the teenagers convicted of raping two girls go to the Court of Appeal. That responsibility lies solely with the independent Attorney General under the Unduly Lenient Sentence scheme, following referrals from MPs or others. By personally announcing “I can announce that the case will go to the Court of Appeal,” Starmer is politicising an individual case and undermining the separation of powers that keeps justice impartial and free from government pressure.
Sky News@SkyNews
'I can announce that the case will go to the Court of Appeal' The sentences of teenagers who avoided jail for raping two girls have been referred to the Court of Appeal, the prime minister has said. trib.al/TlyX6Gz
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I agree. Starmer is given to making comments such as far right, full force of law etc. He gives at least an impression here that he has influenced the Attorney and has got the referral expedited.
Christopher Talbot@Lord_Talbot64
Keir Starmer should not interfere in the judicial process. It is not the Prime Minister’s decision whether the sentences of the teenagers convicted of raping two girls go to the Court of Appeal. That responsibility lies solely with the independent Attorney General under the Unduly Lenient Sentence scheme, following referrals from MPs or others. By personally announcing “I can announce that the case will go to the Court of Appeal,” Starmer is politicising an individual case and undermining the separation of powers that keeps justice impartial and free from government pressure.
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What is your opinion of Suella Braverman? 🇬🇧
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@Lord_Talbot64 And following the law - so it appears - obiterj.blogspot.com/2026/05/court-…
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The judge was simply following the sentencing guidelines set out by the Sentencing Council, the independent body of which Starmer was a member.
Attorney General's Office@attorneygeneral
Following a swift and detailed examination of the cases, the Attorney General has made the decision to refer the cases of the Fordingbridge Three to the Court of Appeal. It is now for the court to decide whether to increase the sentence. gov.uk/government/new…
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@sdavieslaw See the blogger has taken another look at sentencing in this area - obiterj.blogspot.com/2026/05/court-…
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@sdavieslaw Tks for reply and Totally agree re sentencing remarks. I don't know how they decide what is / is not published but these ought to have been. Would at least explain the reasoning.
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Recent media reporting involving criminal cases emphasises how important it is for judicial sentencing remarks to be published online as soon as possible. Reading a summary in a news article is unhelpful. But reading about the facts of the case and the reason why a judge arrived at a particularly sentence is of significant importance. Only then can the public properly scrutinise. The introduction of AI is surely needed transcribe word for word what is said in open court subject to reporting restrictions. Open justice demands that level of transparency to maintain public confidence.
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@Barristerblog It would and should be dropped now. Shame on it passing 2nd reading.
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This would be a sensible, principled and popular decision.
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@KathyConWom More convictions by case-hardened judges. That's why they want this. Control of the population.
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What happens when Starmer removes the jury and leaves us at the mercy of the judges? conservativewoman.co.uk/thank-god-for-…
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The British people just named President Donald Trump 'the worst thing to ever come out of America' in new poll.
What's your reaction?
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@DavidLammy Take a look at the law that judge had to follow. Then ask who makes such law. As LC you really should.
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The Court of Appeal will review these sentences. These victims have shown tremendous courage and it is right sentences can be reviewed.
Attorney General's Office@attorneygeneral
Following a swift and detailed examination of the cases, the Attorney General has made the decision to refer the cases of the Fordingbridge Three to the Court of Appeal. It is now for the court to decide whether to increase the sentence. gov.uk/government/new…
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