Robert Tarone

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Robert Tarone

Robert Tarone

@RobertTarone

Mathematical statistician. Conservative. Skeptical. Vietnam veteran (Army medic). Emigrated from California over 5 decades ago. Terribly strange to be 70.

Katılım Haziran 2014
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Robert Tarone
Robert Tarone@RobertTarone·
@zaruk You have been at the forefront in exposing the corrupt relationship between the IARC Monographs Program and predatory US tort lawyers, so your kind words are much appreciated.
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The Risk-Monger
The Risk-Monger@zaruk·
@RobertTarone The scientific world needs more people like you Bob with the courage to stand up to IARC's coordinated onslaughts.
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The Risk-Monger
The Risk-Monger@zaruk·
I don't get J&J. They had the Predatorts hanging, with a series of losses and no scientific evidence. They won the talc extortion campaign. They could have bankrupted the bastards given how leveraged they are to the litigation finance loan sharks. Then they settled for $5 billion
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Robert Tarone
Robert Tarone@RobertTarone·
@zaruk And it will continue to be protected until the fraudulent IARC classification is retracted.
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The Risk-Monger
The Risk-Monger@zaruk·
In looking up some details for an article to come out tomorrow, I found research from 6 years ago on the glyphosate extortion racket. The Big Lie, that glyphosate caused the cancer in 100s of thousands of lawsuits, has been protected for 6 years. Stunning! risk-monger.com/2020/01/08/sli…
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Michael Greger, M.D.
Michael Greger, M.D.@nutrition_facts·
If glyphosate was deemed “probably carcinogenic,” why did regulators still approve its use? see.nf/4n5ps6A
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Simon Maechling
Simon Maechling@simonmaechling·
Strange how people dismiss regulatory studies because industry paid for them, but rarely ask who funded the academic/NGO study they're citing. One was required by law, conducted under standardized protocols, and reviewed by regulators. The other was whatever the sponsor decided to fund. See the difference?
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GoLongNotShort PhD
GoLongNotShort PhD@FUDHelpdesk·
Fair point on the IARC criteria. Limited evidence shouldn’t be stretched into “probable carcinogen.” But separate from classification, there’s still a public-risk question: when exposure is widespread and the evidence is unsettled, shouldn’t precaution matter more than industry comfort?
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Rep. Melanie Stansbury
Rep. Melanie Stansbury@Rep_Stansbury·
The stakes could not be higher—as the Admin has turned MAHA into a platform for cuts, corruption, and corporate giveaways. The consequences are real. And, Americans are paying the price. ⬇️
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Robert Tarone
Robert Tarone@RobertTarone·
@FUDHelpdesk @ACSHorg @Rep_Stansbury Whether there is even limited evidence of glyphosate’s potential carcinogenicity is arguable, but limited evidence does not meet IARC’s criteria for a probable human carcinogen. The erroneous IARC classification should be retracted.
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GoLongNotShort PhD
GoLongNotShort PhD@FUDHelpdesk·
@ACSHorg @Rep_Stansbury This is advocacy dressed up as certainty. The honest statement is: regulators disagree, IARC found a probable carcinogenic hazard, and studies have shown an NHL signal. “Doesn’t cause cancer” is not science.
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Benjamin Ryan
Benjamin Ryan@benryanwriter·
NEWS: The Supreme Court just gutted the central legal theory behind tens of thousands of Roundup cancer lawsuits. In a 7-2 ruling in Monsanto v. Durnell, the justices held that federal pesticide law preempts state "failure-to-warn" claims, meaning a jury can't punish Bayer-owned Monsanto for selling Roundup without a cancer warning on the label. The reasoning: The EPA has repeatedly found that glyphosate, Roundup's active ingredient, is not likely to cause cancer, and has never required a warning. Because federal law locks in the EPA-approved label, the Court said states can't use tort verdicts to force a different one. The stakes are enormous. The decision unravels the theory underpinning a flood of suits from people who blame Roundup for their non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. John Durnell, who won $1.25 million after two decades of use, loses his verdict. Justice Kavanaugh wrote for the majority, joined by the chief justice, Thomas, Alito, Barrett, and, crossing ideological lines, Sotomayor and Kagan. The dissent scrambled the alignment further: Justice Jackson, joined by the conservative Gorsuch, charged that the majority broke from the near-unanimous view of the lower courts and leaves Durnell "without a remedy for the significant harms he has suffered." It's a landmark victory for Bayer, which has spent years trying to cap its Roundup liability — and a heavy blow to plaintiffs who say the company escaped accountability for a danger they insist regulators got wrong.
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Robert Tarone
Robert Tarone@RobertTarone·
@OldTBarRanch @benryanwriter Not disingenuous. US Roundup litigation is all based on the fraudulent IARC classification of glyphosate (alone) as a probable human carcinogen.
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Eliot Mason
Eliot Mason@OldTBarRanch·
@benryanwriter This seems disingenuous. AFAIK the cancer cause isn't glyphosate but the brew of adjuvants that get the glyphosate into the plant. And you absolutely cannot purchase straight glyphosate so there is no choice. Its like selling wholesome orange juice ... but only with vodka.
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Simon Maechling
Simon Maechling@simonmaechling·
If five decades of research can’t prove something is "probably" carcinogenic, it probably isn’t.
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Robert Tarone
Robert Tarone@RobertTarone·
@zaruk Superb analysis as usual. I fear, however, that the problem goes well beyond the IARC-Ramazzini axis. It is shocking that the wider environmental science community has allowed the fraudulent IARC glyphosate classification to stand uncorrected for over 11 years.
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The Risk-Monger
The Risk-Monger@zaruk·
For a decade, I've been claiming that IARC is corrupted, uses a bad methodology, not scientific, run by special interests and Predatorts. It often felt like no one listened. Was I the crazy one? This week I learnt I wasn't. But where did IARC finally lose the plot? My assessment.
THE FIREBREAK@the_firebreak

After the US government put a health warning on IARC's low quality research, @zaruk wonders what a post-IARC world will look like. Less fear, ignorance or useless lawsuits It will be better and no one will notice when the cancer agency crawls into oblivion thefirebreak.org/p/welcoming-th…

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The Risk-Monger
The Risk-Monger@zaruk·
10 years too late but the US government now identifies IARC as a rogue research institution and conclude their monographs have no value They also need to deny public funding to all Ramazzini fellows (next step). I think they read Nathan Schachtman's paper! state.gov/releases/offic…
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Robert Tarone
Robert Tarone@RobertTarone·
@simonmaechling @zaruk When are Bayer scientists/lawyers going to seriously challenge the use of the IARC glyphosate classification to justify the frivolous US Roundup litigation? The IARC glyphosate evaluation should fail any rigorous trial within a trial and thus be excluded as evidence of harm.
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Robert Tarone
Robert Tarone@RobertTarone·
Zaruk’s “Firebreak” and Schachtman’s “Tortini” are must reads for anyone concerned about the current dismal state of environmental science.
THE FIREBREAK@the_firebreak

Nathan Schachtman's publication, #IARCsPrecautionaryScience puts the cancer agency under the microscope. @zaruk reviews the book, the failed science, special interests, non-transparency and links to the US litigation industry. Conclusion: Shut IARC down. thefirebreak.org/p/putting-iarc…

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