Brayden Cook
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Brayden Cook
@The_Catechumen
I am Catholic Inc. | Controversialist LARP | Baptist Diss Track Out Now | BAPTISM SAVES
Oklahoma, USA Katılım Şubat 2024
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@shutupzee_ @xagreat the burden of proof is on you all to demonstrate he did. why would I need God to reveal that something DIDN'T happen if there isn't sufficient evidence to suggest it did?
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@The_Catechumen @xagreat please bring forward the certification from God that He didn't reveal anything to him.
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@Catholic_bro i was baptized catholic and went to catholic church and catholic school for 10 years. you’re out of your league here. thank the Lord i discovered the truth about your heretical and blasphemous religion (or should i say tradition).
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The meme

Patriotic Crusader@armour_of_truth
@Catholic_bro out of my depth? everything you do teaches works based salvation. i was a catholic for 10 years before i got saved (all glory to God). you quote nonsense and not scripture and you teach works based salvation and tradition over scripture. the catholic church is a lie.
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@AgainstAtheismX “Jesus Christ“ aka “Gospel Jesus” is a fictional, legendarily embellished, Supermanized, character not a human being. Not to be confused with any “historical Jesus” that would’ve been. Even THAT Jesus is not 100% guaranteed to have existed.

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@ProvisionistP @j_divis True. But Baptism is still necessary for salvation based upon other far more explicit passages of Scripture.
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Jesus Christ, who is perfect, got baptized as an example.
It is required for salvation.

GodlyAction@GodlyAction
Baptism is not required for salvation.
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@Firekkian @BasedDavePA The YouCat didn't replace it. The modern Catechism of the Catholic Church practically did. What "issues" are you referring to?
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@BasedDavePA @The_Catechumen Hey quick note, apparently the Baltimore Cat had some issues and they updated/replaced it with a recent volume called YouCat (Youth Catechism)
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@JudasShroyer @BasedDavePA bro is reading baltimore catechism 0
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@The_Catechumen @BasedDavePA Its aight if you can get past the
Q: "Who is God"
A: "God"
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The Baltimore catechism is shorter, is formatted in a Q/A format in about 40 lessons, and was the standard catechism for the U.S. from 1884-1992. There are 4 volumes intended for different age groups. Vol 1 = elementary, Vol 2 = middle school, Vol 3 = High School, Vol 4 = teachers guide with expanded sections (it's basically the explanation of the Catechism).
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@The_Catechumen Whats the difference between the one I have and the Baltimore version?
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@shutupzee_ @xagreat I can and do deny that God revealed anything to Muhammad.
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@The_Catechumen @xagreat God actually revealed to him the actual conversations which no one can deny. the miracles he were blessed with, the journey he had taken, his words, no one can deny those or accused Muhammad for making those up.
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@shutupzee_ @xagreat Literally anyone can claim to speak on behalf of Christ
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@The_Catechumen @xagreat exactly, Muhammad didn't meet Jesus but his name is mentioned 95 times in the Quran because God revealed onto him about Jesus. That's how he knew about him. and that says a lot about his prophecy.
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@NiceanRick I'm saying the accusation doesn't make sense unless you want to posit that a Presbyterian somehow had ulterior motives for grounding Catholic ecclesiology in the Fathers of the Church.
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@The_Catechumen You don’t know what anachronism means do you?
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Saying, “I believe in one, holy, Catholic, and apostolic Church,” but redefining every word doesn’t mean you actually affirm the creed. Catholics can profess the marks specifically as they were intended to be defined - and as they were explained by the fathers/those contemporaneous to promulgation of the creed. You can’t. It’s the same thing creedal baptists do when they redefine “one baptism for the forgiveness of sins” to mean “one baptism that doesn’t forgive your sins but only symbolizes the forgiveness you’ve already received.” It’s the same problem. You aren’t really AFFIRMING the creed, because you shift the meaning away from what those words were intended to convey by the fathers. You’re misappropriating it.
Nathan Zekveld@RevZekveld
I believe "one, holy, catholic and apostolic church". That does not say I believe “the One Roman Catholic Church”.
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@NiceanRick This is literally a Presbyterian church historian conceding the Fathers of the Church had a Catholic ecclesiology.
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"Catholic" doesn't definitionally mean submission to Rome. Though, it can be applied in reference to either a visible institution (which is what the Fathers confessed about the Church) or to an invisible amalgamation of all true Christians (as you would assert). Though, in consideration of HOW that term was used by the Fathers + how the New Testament describes Christ instituting a visible society bound together in one faith, united under the same leaders, administering the same rites, etc., I would just deny your assertion that the theology is incorrect.
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@The_Catechumen "The holy catholic" was added later. And if the people present who added that attached to it the belief in an outward organization and adherence to the roman pope - that is, a. not the meaning of the word "catholic" and b. would be incorrect theology. I'm not convinced at all
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@PastorDavidUde Ohhhhh I thought you were saying the Apostles creed said that.
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@The_Catechumen from 180 AD it just says "I believe in the holy church"
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False
Islam existed since Adam, the first Human and first Prophet of Islam
Ahmad Batebi 🛡️ 🇮🇷 🇺🇸@radiojibi
Iran is older than Islam.
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@The_Catechumen the apostles creed - or the first version of it, the roman creed - is far older than the claims of the Roman bishop to be head of the church. It has "I believe in one holy church."
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@therealreadonly “Catholic Church” was treated as rhe proper name for the Church. Not just an adjective.

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@The_Catechumen It’s small “c” catholic.
The word’s other meaning is “universal”.
Did you not know this?
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@The_Catechumen Zero of the Fathers were Roman Catholics. Zero. Your comment is one giant example of question begging.
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