Z. 🚀

6.4K posts

Z. 🚀 banner
Z. 🚀

Z. 🚀

@Z_thelastguy

Katılım Şubat 2023
839 Takip Edilen1.5K Takipçiler
Sabitlenmiş Tweet
Z. 🚀
Z. 🚀@Z_thelastguy·
1/3 of my $pltr positions, 100% $PLTR holding in this single account, I just brought it then leave it alone. don’t get trigger and block people when u missed the boat, u learn nothing. u just keep spinning in ur little world screaming about valuation will it have correction? sure it will, but I just don’t care how far will this account go in 2030? I don’t know, let’s see I just won’t touch it until then 🙂
Z. 🚀 tweet media
English
36
7
123
47.4K
Ashu Dubey
Ashu Dubey@dubeyism·
The real news is in what’s not being said. Palantir is scared of Anthropic. Mythos puts Claude inside the national security apparatus. Workflows Palantir spent years building, replaced in weeks. Now rewatch that Karp CNBC interview.
English
11
0
8
5.5K
Z. 🚀 retweetledi
Louis Mosley
Louis Mosley@louismosley·
Tampa General: sepsis deaths down more than two-thirds. Parts of Westminster: yes, but is it aligned with our values?
Louis Mosley tweet media
English
21
111
842
73.9K
Rebound Capital
Rebound Capital@rebound_capital·
Palantir is down ~40% in seven months. We still won't buy it. The stock peaked at ~$207 in November 2025, touched $106 in late June, and has rebounded to ~$130 after the NVIDIA partnership. We study beaten-down stocks for a living, so a 40% drawdown in an elite company usually gets us interested. Not this time: - Nosebleed valuation: At ~$130, Palantir trades at ~80x forward earnings, ~42x forward revenue, and ~225x trailing Economic FCF (FCF minus stock compensation). Difficult to make money at such valuations. - Even if the business does well, the stock may not: Our base case gives Palantir 21.5% revenue growth for a full decade and Economic FCF margins of 43%. Even then, our intrinsic value comes out far below today's price. - High growth rates don’t last forever: Snowflake had >170% net retention at its 2021 peak (better than Palantir today) and still lost ~67% of its value while executing well. Zoom's Rule of 40 crossed 300 in 2020, and the stock fell more than 85%. Palantir is a good company with elite execution and a real moat. But at this price, even flawless execution leaves investors with a large loss, by our estimates. We rate $PLTR an 'AVOID'. Here's our full deep dive, including our DCF model and price targets.
English
26
7
90
64.4K
Joe
Joe@Joe52220336·
@TJTheWheelDeal The same palantir responsible for targeting a girls school in Iran?
English
1
0
0
144
TJTheWheelDeal
TJTheWheelDeal@TJTheWheelDeal·
I know $PLTR is now the new $TSLA as far as a cult following goes. But WTH was CNBC talking about earlier about a video and a cult with $PLTR in the middle? Oh boy, say it ain’t so. This has to be nonsense, right?!?!
English
24
0
25
8.4K
Annie Anston
Annie Anston@AnnieAnston·
@GrindeOptions No, it’s price to sales ratio is too high. Look it up and compare it to the rest of It’s group.
English
4
0
0
1.2K
Cole Grinde
Cole Grinde@GrindeOptions·
Are you a buyer of $PLTR in the $130’s. 👀
Cole Grinde tweet mediaCole Grinde tweet media
English
57
11
346
36.4K
Arny Trezzi
Arny Trezzi@arny_trezzi·
Burry said: "Anthropic is eating Palantir 's lunch". It turns out $PLTR eats the lunch of all AI models. By allowing clients to easily switch between models, Palantir fuels competition between AI labs and open-source models while monopolizing the orchestration layer.
English
53
81
1.1K
89.8K
TJTheWheelDeal
TJTheWheelDeal@TJTheWheelDeal·
Just changed $MSTR share goal to 50k as well as $PLTR. We are done fucking around. $100M has to happen and these stocks can help get us there!
English
8
0
95
12.4K
Z. 🚀 retweetledi
Chad Wahlquist
Chad Wahlquist@chadwahl·
How do you get value out of commodities? If everyone has access to the same open weight models, where does the value come from? Value creation comes from the effective application of commodities. Fuel is a commodity. But two companies with access to the same fuel can produce radically different outcomes. One uses it inefficiently. The other uses it to power a fleet that is tightly coordinated around demand, supply, inventory, routing, labor, timing, and real world exception handling. The difference is not the fuel. The difference is the operational system that turns fuel into movement, movement into distribution, and distribution into business value. LLMs are similar, but even further upstream. They are not the finished product. They are the raw power source for operational applications. You get value from LLMs by building the tools, workflows, context, permissions, feedback loops, and systems that know how to harness that power and direct it at real work. The model is the fuel. The value comes from the machinery that applies it.
English
27
37
268
15.5K
Z. 🚀
Z. 🚀@Z_thelastguy·
@optionscjp Last month it was going to $80, now at $130 you are becoming extremely bullish? So now Model Lab will not kill their business anymore?
English
3
0
2
687
Options selling with Christian
On Friday I sold The remaining 4300 shares of my $HIMS ($160k) All of my 1600 shares of $PLTR ($208k) To buy some of the delicious AI dip We will see if that was a smart move or not I do plan on covering a good amount of the $PLTR shares with some LEAPS or calls at the very least as I’m extremely bullish on $PLTR right now.
English
54
8
371
103.5K
Z. 🚀
Z. 🚀@Z_thelastguy·
Anthropic’s enterprise agreement says ‘we won’t train on your data.’ What it doesn’t say: we’ll watch every use case you build, launch a competing product, and not even warn you first. Ask Figma — down 50% YTD after Anthropic launched Claude Design. They didn’t steal your database. They watched your prompts, understood your market, and ate your lunch. That’s not a privacy policy problem. That’s a business model.
English
0
0
1
45
Teocali
Teocali@Teocalifrank·
@Z_thelastguy Anthropic enterprise plans come with data privacy and copyright protection. You've been trusting SaaS with your data for decades and are suddenly pretending this is somehow different.
English
1
0
0
36
Z. 🚀
Z. 🚀@Z_thelastguy·
Every CEO and CTO still using OpenAI or Anthropic after Figma: you are now personally one shareholder lawsuit away from a very bad day. You knew the risk. You had the data. You chose the vendor competing against your own business anyway. That’s not strategy. That’s breach of fiduciary duty — with receipts. Karp built $PLTR on this exact warning. @chamath just said it out loud. The “we didn’t know” era is over. The “you will be held accountable” era has begun. $PLTR #AIGovernance #FiduciaryDuty #DirectorLiability
Jawwwn@jawwwn_

.@chamath says Palantir CEO Alex Karp is " an incredible, smart, brilliant guy" who "completely nailed it and called out on its face the huge risk" of giving your company's alpha to OpenAI and Anthropic: "If you are a reasonable company, why are you not finding an independent way to access this intelligence in a way that doesn't leak your edge away?" "To do so at this point now is kind of becoming derelict and irresponsible." "Back then, you could be experimenting because you didn't know any better." "Now, when you know all of these data points, to continue to make the same decision is really insanely dumb." Via @theallinpod @DavidSacks @friedberg @Jason

English
4
8
61
6K
Traders Confessions
Traders Confessions@TradersConf·
My wife hates my lifestyle. Even though I’m averaging $300-500k a year from trading she hates that I trade for 2-3 hours a day then play playstation and chill for the rest of it. It doesn’t matter how much I make, she treats me like her unemployed bum husband who won’t get a job.
English
2.4K
726
28.8K
7.9M
Nicholas Mugalli
Nicholas Mugalli@RealNickMugalli·
Mannnn I just finished watching the entire Karp interview on CNBC…brutal! Everyone’s covering the outrage. Almost nobody’s reading it for what it actually is… Fear. Because ask the only question that matters…why now? On June 29, $PLTR announced a partnership with $NVDA to deploy open models in sovereign, air gapped environments. Karp isn’t having a philosophical moment he’s rushing a defensive product to market and shouting on the way. CEOs don’t fight narrative wars over threats that aren’t real. And the threat is very real. Look at what’s happening to Palantir’s moat. Its entire multiple rests on one scarcity story…models commoditize, and the value settles in the deployment layer, data, workflows, permissions, the “operating system for enterprise AI.” That story only works if the labs stay in their lane. They didn’t. OpenAI and Anthropic now ship enterprise editions, agents, connectors, forward deployed engineers embedding AI directly into workflows. The DoW Palantir’s crown jewel franchise is signing with model vendors directly now, not just through integrators (why even should have integrators?) Defense AI isn’t Palantir’s exclusive track anymore. The labs aren’t suppliers to Palantir’s layer. They’re becoming its replacement. But the real problem Karp can’t talk his way out of…is the labs own the thing that improves every quarter, the model and they’re building down toward the workflow. Palantir owns the workflow and is hoping the thing that improves every quarter stays a commodity. One of those positions compounds. The other one erodes. Even his best argument is softer than it sounds. “They’re training on your data” except both major labs exclude enterprise API data from training by default. The honest enterprise fear is dependency, and it cuts both ways…locking into Palantir’s ontology is dependency too. He’s not offering autonomy. He’s offering a different host. A CEO whose valuation depends on scarcity is watching that scarcity get contested from below by better funded competitors who own the capability layer and are marching upstream. The louder Karp gets, the more the moat is telling you it’s under siege. At this multiple, PLTR is priced like the operating system of enterprise AI. The labs just started competing for that exact job. One of these narratives breaks and it won’t be the one with the frontier models and on that i’d be willing to bet $5M that Plantir would be at least cut in half from this valuation in the next 24 months…
Nicholas Mugalli@RealNickMugalli

Ohhhh Hess scared!!! $PLTR was never an ai company. Where’s the spending into the infrastructure? He’s got caught off guard on being a basic LLM model and he’s days are numbered. Enterprise is moving away from that to actually value creation models even with expensive tokens

English
28
6
24
19.5K
Z. 🚀
Z. 🚀@Z_thelastguy·
@DoDataThings @rohanpaul_ai Wrong. No advance agreement needed — pure contingency. I show up tomorrow, save your company $1B+, I take 30%. I fail, I take nothing. Zero downside for you. That’s not “value-based pricing” — that’s a bet. Karp won’t sign that deal either, and now you know why.
English
0
0
0
19
Winston B.
Winston B.@DoDataThings·
@rohanpaul_ai Value based pricing means someone has to agree in advance what the value is. Token pricing exists because nobody wants to make that call before the output shows up. Karp's asking for a deal he'd never sign either.
English
1
0
2
114
Rohan Paul
Rohan Paul@rohanpaul_ai·
"Are the prompts secure? Is this being transferred to you? If it was so valuable, if I can make you a bn dollars, wouldn't I say, I'll make you a bn dollars and I want 30%? Why are they charging for tokens if it's so valuable? " - Palantir CEO Alex Karp
English
12
5
92
16.9K
Z. 🚀
Z. 🚀@Z_thelastguy·
@RobotChocobo Is this what Palantir does too? Okay, you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. The conversation is over. Have a good day.
English
1
0
2
36
Choco
Choco@RobotChocobo·
@Z_thelastguy this is what palantir does too, genius, repeatable productizable workflow automations they don't sit on a customer's board, tell them that they aren't launching a design product, and then launch a competing product 2 weeks after
English
1
0
0
29
A
A@Tanwardds1·
@MrMikeInvesting Fuck Karp and Fuck PLTR invest in other people and companies. This guy was created in a Zionists Wet Dream
English
11
0
5
2.3K
Choco
Choco@RobotChocobo·
@Z_thelastguy just anthropic, openai doesn't do shit like this
English
1
0
0
95
Just a Dude Who Invests
Just a Dude Who Invests@DudeWhoInvests·
At what price is Palantir $PLTR a great buy? Is the expensive valuation for this one worth it? With Karp going on CNBC several days ago and the rant he had about their software as well as AI frontier labs… Palantir seems critical.
English
39
2
82
17.5K
Jaipal Singh
Jaipal Singh@Mr_Jaypee·
@Tr0llyTr0llFace At max, we're 2 years out from teams genuinely running localised inference on hardware they own.
English
1
0
1
27
Jaipal Singh
Jaipal Singh@Mr_Jaypee·
welcome to the open source party, we're just getting started.
Ricardo@Ric_RTP

Palantir's CEO just exposed Sam Altman and Dario Amodei for robbing every Fortune 500 company. Within two minutes, Alex Karp took the entire frontier AI industry apart on national television. His exact words: "Every single enterprise in this country, these people are LIVID. They are paying for tokens that create no value. These people are stealing the weights and alpha of my business." He literally said the entire frontier AI business model is intellectual property extraction dressed up as a subscription. Then he also destroyed the pricing model with a single question that Silicon Valley still refuses to answer: "If it was so valuable, let's say I can make you $1 billion tomorrow. Wouldn't I say I'll make you $1 billion and I want 30 percent? Why are they charging for tokens if it's so valuable?" That question breaks the industry. If OpenAI and Anthropic's models truly delivered the productivity gains the labs claim, they would take equity or a share of the profit they generate. They would not sell access by the million tokens. Token pricing is itself the CONFESSION that the product cannot produce reliable value at scale. If it did, they would price for the value. But they price for the compute because that is what they are actually selling. Karp went even further... He called the entire arrangement "a wealth tax that does not help the poor. It just punishes." American businesses are transferring the alpha of their operations, meaning the workflows, the customer data, the strategy memos, the internal models that make them competitive, directly into the training pipelines of a handful of Silicon Valley labs. Once those labs retrain, the customer's own edge becomes the next enterprise product sold back to their competitors. And the part the AI industry does not want anyone thinking about: Every enterprise running its confidential documents, its customer conversations, and its financial models through a frontier model is potentially teaching that model HOW to replace them. The vendor collects the token fee AND the compounding intelligence about that customer's business. That is the mechanism. And that is why Karp used the word "stealing." He claims this is why every executive he meets is furious in private and silent in public. Nobody wants to be the CEO who called out the labs and then discovered their next competitor was built on their own leaked workflows. The entire AI industry has been priced for perfection on one assumption: That frontier labs produce durable, defensible value that justifies infinite compute spend. But Karp just told us that the customers do not believe that assumption anymore. They believe they are being taxed without benefit, watched without consent, and copied without recourse. The moment enterprises stop believing, the whole valuation stack shakes.

English
2
1
12
2K
Babyfolio
Babyfolio@babyfolio·
@LiebermanAustin You didn't really make any money though. Why bother with 2% allocation?
English
6
0
52
7.5K
Austin Lieberman
Austin Lieberman@LiebermanAustin·
When and how I’ll buy $NBIS again $150 = 2% position $120 = add 2% $100 = add 2% For those of you wondering I made it an 8% position at ~$70 and sold at ~$230 2 weeks ago. So yes I have the ability to change my mind 😉
Austin Lieberman@LiebermanAustin

When and how I’ll build a $NBIS position. $80 = 2% position $50 = add another 2% $30 = add another 2% I’ll then have 6% allocated and I would leave it alone. Or at higher share prices but lower p/s multiples id follow the same framework. Fundamentals matter

English
26
1
37
51K