@jarredsumner Hmm If what this doesn't count as a major bump, what would ever count as an actual 2.0?
Nobody is going to be disappointed, and it serves as a clear milestone/indication of the new incarnation of the code
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We’ll call the next release Bun v1.4. There’s already far more than enough new things since Bun v1.3.1 to justify the version bump, and the slightly more opt-in upgrade of a minor bump seems better.
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Just passed the Turnstile check for the first time in @ladybirdbrowser (with a little help from Cloudflare 🧡)
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@theodorebeers @joshmanders Zig probably was indispensable, I think the iteration speed and flexibility greatly helped in the early days. We just now got LLMs good enough to do this sort of translation, and the project is now mature enough that it can focus on stability versus rapidly prototyping/expanding
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@coreh @joshmanders I tend to agree that it was only the existence of Bun as a successful independent project that forced Node to get with the times.
Re: JSC, it's obviously fine, but what I mean is that for a long time, we were sold this narrative that Zig and JSC were indispensable to Bun.
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Remember when Jarred said that Bun was only possible in a highly specialized snowflake language like Zig and that they HAVE to use h1-b workers because only people from the Zag region can truly speak Zig?
Pepperidge Farms remembers.
Joel 🇦🇺@ptr_to_joel
holy wow they merged it
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@joshmanders @theodorebeers Joining an existing project, with established goals, constraints and processes, with the intent of unilaterally drastically changing it is unlikely to succeed.
Building bun was a much better way of improving node.
Also using JSC is great, it prevents a v8 monoculture
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@theodorebeers They never needed that, Jarred just needed to work with the Node team and improve Node. But he decided to build another thing instead.
Granted I do give him credit because that decision did push Node to prioritize some important things they been dragging their feet on
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@outlineaddict @vanschneider yeah it should be dark and non-dark, neutral mode
light mode is too light most of the time, and keeps getting progressively whiter and whiter
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@vanschneider One of the big mistakes of dark mode is that it made "light mode". We used to have designers just design good UIs, they weren't obsessively dark or obsessively light. Then obsessively dark UIs were made, we needed menus to choose between normal and dark mode.
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Fun fact you may not believe: when we redesigned Spotify 13 years ago, going dark mode was a controversial move. The entire music app landscape was light mode and even more funny, dark interfaces were widely dismissed and disliked by designers. It took a lot of convincing to push it through.
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@deep_kr_shah @awesomekling @ladybirdbrowser Probably still a few years away from now, the first alphas are coming this year though
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@awesomekling @ladybirdbrowser When can we expect the first stable build to come out?
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RIP traço icônico da turminha q marcou a infância de mts de nós💔
Vito jurídico turma da mônica jovem@EraserBoy7
>APARENTEMENTE< essa revista vai ter varios estilos de artes diferentes, simulando o primeiro. As imagens que eu vi de histórias diferentes e artistas diferentes para vocês compararem! Lembrando que todos tem um estilo único e nenhum igual o outro!
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@theo I don't understand your point, this has just been ported, and was structured to match the original codebase 1:1.
Removing the unsafe calls while still passing the tests, and not regressing perf, is a tedious but not super daunting task.
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uv has 350k lines of Rust, and 73 "unsafe" calls.
The Bun Rust port is already 681k lines of Rust, and has over 13,000 "unsafe" calls.
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@theo now we know where all the unsafe code is, previously we did not
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@Spiders_STG @Darthshadow25 @jackcrawford__ mind games, language games, pretend games, bedroom games, "the game"
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@coreh @Darthshadow25 @jackcrawford__ Name one game outside of “video games” that fits inside the broad definition and not the narrow one.
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i call them “video games”
John Markley@johndrewmarkley
The whole Mixtape arglebargle really further demonstrates that we need a video game-adjacent "electronic creative works that have an interactive element but are not games" category. Not as a value judgment, but simply so both forms of media are better understood.
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você pagaria R$75 por uma fonte??
jean@MrJe4n
SAIU!!! 🧱🧱✨✨ A Tijolo está oficialmente no mundo! Muita emoção envolvida, correria danada! Pelo preço de um único peso, você leva +7 e uma versão variável. O gerente ficou louco? Com certeza!! A promoção é válida só até o dia 17/05, fecho? LINK NOS COMENTÁRIOS
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@somebdyfunny @effectfully More cheese = more holes
More holes = less cheese
More cheese = less cheese
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Anti-AI midwits would look you dead in the eye and say that what's on the screenshot isn't a complicated enough job or AI isn't any good at it.
You're idiots. Like, complete and utter morons who'd stare at trivially interpretable data and keep getting it wrong.
D.mccallister@Dmccallist21829
@effectfully Look. Someone who doesn't have a complicated enough job to find the limits of AI. Hilarious.
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@unitoshka @jarredsumner You can do manual memory management in Rust
doc.rust-lang.org/std/alloc/inde…
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@jarredsumner zig is much better than rust because it has more features like manual memory management, etc.
Its just that claude stopped coping with a such project, if the code had been written manually, everything would have been much better
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Bun v1.3.14 releases tomorrow.
If we do merge the Rust rewrite, this would be the last version in Zig
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@glcst @jarredsumner Also, the fact that they would routinely ship useful things every release instead of having to wait for 2-3 years of committee discussions, then a command line flag, then not being able to use them for 2 more years because it broke some random module
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@glcst @jarredsumner I was attracted towards bun because of:
- pragmatic approach to things like TS, ESM compatibility, etc, instead of highly restrictive but 100% pedantically correct approaches that led to .mjs/"type": "module" annoyances
- batteries included
Being written in zig was not a factor
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My take:
The irony here is if Bun was initially written in Rust @jarredsumner would have had a much harder time differentiating it from Deno, which had a reasonable amount of attention at the time. So it worked just fine
For the usual X crowd, here are the things I am *not* claiming:
* I am not claiming this was the only edge that they had over deno nor that they would have failed otherwise. Just that it helped, and in this game any edge is good
* Also not claiming that Jarred wrote it in Zig *because* he wanted that differentiation. Knowing him, this probaly was not even a factor he considered.
Jarred Sumner@jarredsumner
Bun v1.3.14 releases tomorrow. If we do merge the Rust rewrite, this would be the last version in Zig
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@jondrawz My perception is that FMV sequences are largely out of fashion the games industry, and in-engine cutscenes are currently preferred
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the sheer QUALITY of this makes me wonder: is cgi animation like this actually expensive?
like genuinely, if fans can replicate this kind of quality, what is actually the thing holding back the official stuff?
𝗟𝗜𝗫𝗘𝗦@LixesPrototype
Sonic 06 WIP
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@jarredsumner hmm that's too aggressive of a timeline IMO, people are using this in production
would be nice to commit to shipping at least security fixes to the Zig version for some time, and let the Rust version bake for a few weeks/months
should also be a 2.x bump, probably?
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@Ellski_Mae The only genuinely valid criticism I've seen is the "rewinding the cassete tape wrong" scene
Which can be fixed in a software update by placing the pencil on the other hole
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The mixtape hate is so forced and every single negative take screams bitterness. People are REACHING to try and dismantle this indie game. Its sad.
It’s a fun, whimsical, narrative game with a sense of humour and a solid soundtrack
People can’t let anyone enjoy things anymore.
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@Darthshadow25 @jackcrawford__ "game" has both broad and narrow definitions
your point is that "video game" refers solely to the narrow definition, but it's possible to also argue that the broad one also applies
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@jackcrawford__ No. A video game is a digital game. Game has a very specific definition. Many things you people are calling video games do not fit the definition of game.
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@elbruno Yeah macOS has been doing this for years now, I was surprised to learn that Windows didn't do it
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Plot twist: esto no es una aberración moderna de Windows/Android.
Es una idea bastante normal: ajustar frecuencia y rendimiento según la carga para balancear velocidad, batería y temperatura.
Linux tiene todo un subsistema para esto: cpufreq.
kernel.org/doc/html/lates…
Criticar el mal diseño está perfecto. Criticar que el OS gestione recursos dinámicamente… bueno 😅
Ryuku@gnuryuku
@microsofterses personalmente, si el sistema operativo que usas necesita algo asi para que parezca fluido es que el sistema es una mierda y una falta de respeto hacia el usuario. cambialo por uno mejor que respete al usuario ya si hablamos de windows, pues bueno, la cosa empeora muchisimo
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