@ReddDrift @BobMurphyEcon @x____mas Actually, I think this is an interesting twist. I am a blue voter, as I am willing to risk my life to save others. I would vote red if I controlled 100 people, as I am not willing to risk killing others.
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@BobMurphyEcon @x____mas Then its the same as the individual one but scaled differently. You are trying to change the dynamic to make a certain choice obvious when it ends the same scenario regardless.
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To show this isn’t altruism versus selfishness: suppose parents are required to push the button on behalf of their children who are 5 or younger. Which button do you push on their behalf?
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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@Lobster21527 @justalexoki I don't think it is to save people who are stupid. It is to save people who are altruistic
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@justalexoki I just want everyone who's pressing Red to understand that not everyone is not intelligent as them, and press blue and save people who are less intelligent as you
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i've changed my mind actually. i'm back on blue. because everyone will not just! and i should do what i can to save the ones who do not understand the game
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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The calculus to press red is, to put it kindly, short-sighted idiot math. It begins and ends with “what input gives me the best odds of living” with no regard for what the world you’d be living in - where everyone you can trust is dead and everyone else knows it - would look like
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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People are getting one shotted by this non-dilemma. The only reason you pick blue is to save retards who picked blue. If you think for 2 seconds, the game theory answer is to simply pick red. Given imperfect knowledge of the situation, you should pick red, as it’s your only guaranteed chance at survival. Seems like a bunch of people want to make an excuse to die. People don’t have that dog in them anymore.
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@SCShipyards @G0ffThew My view is that with red I am guaranteed to live, but there will always be some people that press blue. I am willing to risk my life to save them.
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@G0ffThew I know you're not going to understand this, but the only guaranteed outcome is pressing red.
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@savblazkowicz @dolled0parts Can't you just order adrenochrome? Like it has been synthesized since the 1950s, and it isn't a controlled substance, and a quick google gave me several companies that will ship it to me.
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@dolled0parts Funny ….. bc all celebrities are skeletons now since their adrenochrome was withdrawn
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@astralphen WHAT THE FUCK DOES ELFIN EVEN MEAN???
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“theres consenting adults upstairs”
wordle devs:
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@JohnDoe1432745 @theisabelb The chart is directly from the creators of the Political Compass and the book encourages you to discuss and disagree with them. It's not presenting this as hard facts, but instead how the Political Compass creators view their criteria
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@theisabelb This should be treason, everyone responsible for creating anything like this, publishing it, or teaching it should be put in prison for life.
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Teenagers are sharing photos of their AP U.S. Government textbooks, and the sheer amount of indoctrination is wildly disturbing.
Apparently, Barack Obama is ideologically a right wing authoritarian.
Hillary Clinton and George W Bush are entirely indistinguishable politically.
Donald Trump is of course virtually the same as Hitler.
@tedcruz is apparently more radically authoritarian than Fidel Castro AND Joseph Stalin..??!!??
@Linda_McMahon — can we expedite some major changes to American public education?
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@minagelina1 @theisabelb This chart is directly from the Political Compass website, and the book encourages discussing where you disagree with them. The subjectivity is part of the point
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@theisabelb I never even had a chart like this, which is the way it should be. We should be talking about their policies and actions, and NOT put them on some stupid grid.....based upon WHAT, I'd like to know. This is so subjective.
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@dereko33x @theisabelb The book took this chart off the political compass website. It isn't presented as an absolute fact, and instead is encouraged as a discussion point for where you disagree. The subjectivity seems to be part of the point.
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@theisabelb That's wild. It's the most subjective thing according to whatever criteria they made up. Student assignment should be: Estimate how vaccinated this person was and what criteria they emphasized most in deciding this.
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@jmehsood86 @NathanJRobinson Yes, IHL applies even if one side in a conflict does not adhere. "The other side broke IHL" is not a defense from war crimes. If you suspect a POW of personally committing war crimes (not just being part of a force that does) they still have POW status and must have a fair trial
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@h00py_ @NathanJRobinson Okk.. so do the people deliberately killing innocent children and bombing hospitals deserve even a mention of application of IHL?
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Let's be clear at the outset: If Iran holds a US pilot, that person is a prisoner of war, not a "hostage." The terminology matters and we should insist that the media use the correct language for the situation.
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@jmehsood86 @NathanJRobinson International humanitarian law was deliberately written to apply in all armed conflict, and doesn't need a declaration of war. As long as the airman is in uniform, they would be a POW.
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@NathanJRobinson Yes, if US agrees that they are in a War.. which trump has refused to agree...very recently
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@UTD_MDZ @Milo_Edwards I can see it happen. Humans mess up all the time, and even armed police are just like you and I, with bigger consequences. We forget our keys and they forget a bag of guns or military secrets.
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@h00py_ @Milo_Edwards Maybe not the police themselves idk but I refuse to believe a fuck up of this magnitude could ever happen especially with armed police, you simply can’t just forget that you left a bag of guns on the street like??
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the idea of a london copper getting home after a shift, checking his pockets for his “stoned” lighter and then realising he has a more serious problem
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🚨 NEW: Sadiq Khan's police protection officers have been suspended after leaving a bag of guns on the street outside of his home on Tuesday evening [@TheSun]
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@UTD_MDZ @Milo_Edwards Why would they stage something that makes them look incompetent?
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@Milo_Edwards Stinks of a staged event by the police, same vibes as that time military plans were left at a fucking bus stop
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@gophilsbaby @GoodVibePolitik There doesn't need to be an official declaration of war for international humanitarian law (IHL) to apply. As long as the airman is in uniform, IHL says he should be treated as a POW.
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@GoodVibePolitik Is that true even considering the admin's policy that we are explicitly not at war?
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Thankfully the soldiers who have been shot down in Iranian territory are military combatants and therefore their capture would not result in a “hostage situation” as they would have POW status.
ian bremmer@ianbremmer
really really hope this doesn’t become a hostage situation.
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@WASWEJEFF @GoodVibePolitik There's seperate rules for starting a war ("jus ad bellum") and conduct in that war ("jus in bello"). Even in an illegal war, both sides must follow correct conduct according to international law
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@GoodVibePolitik You're kidding right!!!! America is illegally in a war and has no rights zero. Nothing. Can't go to war and then claim rights when you're in the wrong. American hubris 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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@DivineLisaLong @ronin19217435 How does GPS and Starlink work if all rockets do not make it to space?
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@LarrryC1 @JossSheldon Sorry I'm not speaking for all Europeans. I mean that is the average view of establishment Europeans in power, which is why they aren't supporting the war. They seem to think that Iran was upholding their obligations under the nuclear deal until Trump pulled out
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@h00py_ @JossSheldon First of all, you don't speak for all Europeans, just as my opinion doesn't reflect all Americans. Secondly, the IAEA said Iran wasn't allowing complete inspections. Iran lied about its maximum missile ranges (hello Europe), do you think they were lying about 60% enrichment?
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American forces didn't help British troops in the Falkland Isles, Northern Ireland or Sierra Leone.
British forces didn't support the USA in the Philippines, Vietnam, Cambodia or Loas.
Neither country has any divine right to expect support from the other.
Trump is off his rocker.
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@LarrryC1 @JossSheldon The European perspective is that they were satisfied that the Iran Nuclear Deal was preventing a nuclear Iran until Trump unilaterally removed the US, and that by killing the anti-nuclear Ali Khamenei and repeatedly bombing Iran, it makes Iran more likely to pursue nukes
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@JossSheldon You're off your rocker if you think Europe would feel safer with a nuclear armed Iran. They revealed they already have missiles capable of hitting European Capitols. Would they have relied on U.S.'s nuclear umbrella? Not France)
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