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@Stachequatch @dannycantalk look no further than that data center no one is doing anything about in Bluffdale, Utah.

@dannycantalk Building a surveillance state panopticon to trigger the libs

Because it makes luddites upset. There are more reasons, but that would be sufficient on its own.

The reddit mods on r/dcl are covering up the fact Disney Cruise employees were busted for CSAM. kinda creepy.

The same people opposing data centers in America will be asking in 10 years why we didn’t get ahead of the curve when they were building data centers. That’s how fucking stupid people are.

@ZpitnFacz @RealTStevenson Because they aren't one gas lines and fucking huge data lines.

@RealTStevenson Are you also pro adequate clean water? Why aren’t these being built in Montana, North Dakota, or even Alaska instead of in the middle of the desert?

I’m pro-data center. If we don’t build them, China will win the AI race.

@queso_what @US_OGA That's what the NSA data center in Bluffdale is already used for, and actually is a huge water waster. The kneejerk opposition to the Box Elder is misplaced.

@US_OGA Most I know who are opposed are staunch conservatives. Why would we want 62 miles of "Military Installation Development Authority" to surveil and persecute all of us? That's absolutely what it will be used for.

Box Elder County, Utah was the home to our family ranch. It was 2000 acres and 50 years of perpetual disappointment. The data center project discussed here is just to the south of that property. The ranch was sold but for a few acres a few years ago so we have no dog in this fight. The organized data center opposition is very different than the anti-fracking opposition of 15 years ago. Having fought and won those fracking battles I am a veteran . But this is what is shocking to me. The difference is that full-throated violent Marxists have taken that playbook and are running it. They generate noisy opposition in public but the goon squads follow up with threats of violence afterwards. That is the new play in the playbook.

@GidgiddoniGroyp @fozzmoo @tvheidihatch That isn’t how society works.

@jortron @fozzmoo @tvheidihatch Cool, just do it outside of Utah

All it took was a mega data center in Utah to seemingly unite average every day Republicans and Democrats.

@fozzmoo @tvheidihatch I'm in the same boat. Development on this front is important to stay relevant globally. I have some apprehensive feelings but I don't think it's going to melt the polar caps or going to disable my car with a switch.

@tvheidihatch I guess I'm weird because I'm cautiously supportive of it and I think most people freaking out about it are experiencing scope insensitivity.

@ames_freedom @EarlOfHemsley It's not drawing extra water. Shares are being traded.

@EarlOfHemsley Don't be naive, we are in a drought and don't have water for this.

Unpopular opinion: I am ok with the data center as long as the owners of the land don’t have a problem, water usage issues are clearly resolved, and the thing doesn’t draw from Rocky Mountain Power’s electricity generation. But not letting people say their piece is stupid.

The conversation around Stratos has gotten badly unmoored from the actual proposal, and it’s worth addressing the biggest misconceptions before the vote. The loudest claim is that this project will draw more power than the entire state. True at full buildout. Beside the point, because Stratos generates its own power on site. It doesn't draw from the public grid. Last year the legislature passed SB 132 precisely for large private loads that build and operate their own generation off-grid. Utah's existing 4 GW stays where it is. Electricity bills won’t go up because of this project. The "more than the whole state" line sounds scary to some, but falls apart the second you dig in. The water claim deserves more care than it's been getting. The water rights at issue are existing agricultural rights. Bar H Ranch is transferring 1,900 acre-feet currently used for irrigation. This is not new pressure on the basin, but a reallocation. The data center cooling itself is closed-loop. The gas plant will use some water for power generation, and we should want the developer to specify how much; that's a fair ask. But the framing that Stratos is "draining the lake" assumes new diversions that don't exist in the actual filings. The Great Salt Lake is in real trouble, and most of that trouble has names. Stratos isn't one of them. The tax-giveaway argument frustrates me the most, because it imagines a counterfactual that doesn't exist and ignores the actual math. The reduced energy is the price of getting the project to land here instead of in Texas or Wyoming. Even at 0.5%, the county pulls in roughly $30M a year in Phase 1, and over $100M annually at full buildout. The state pulls in roughly $49M. The developer is prepaying the county $5.4M a year for the first three years to fund emergency services before tax revenue starts. The developer is paying for every road, sewer line, and stormwater system in the project area and deeding it to the county. If specialized fire equipment is needed, the developer pays for that too. Two thousand permanent jobs in a part of Utah that has been waiting a long time for a real employer. None of that exists if the answer is no. And the site is the part of the case I keep waiting for someone to make. Hansel Valley is unincorporated, sparsely populated, sits on the Ruby Pipeline, and is adjacent to military infrastructure with strong reasons to want resilient on-site power. The land is doing nothing else. It has been, in policy terms, waiting for this. I'll grant the strongest version of the critique. The process moved fast, and the commissioners felt blindsided. That's a real complaint and worth fixing in how these things come to the county next time. But the choice today isn't between this Stratos and a better Stratos. It's between this Stratos and the same project getting built somewhere else. The country has decided, at the level of abstraction, that it wants to lead on AI. You don't get to keep saying yes to the abstraction and no to every concrete project that would make the abstraction real.

The people who saw clear signs of Nazism in “OK” hand signs and in advocacy for small government and pro-life policies, can’t find it in a literal Nazi death squad tattoo on a guy who hangs out with antisemites

Please be patient for a few minutes as the thousands of Strait of Hormuz Twitter experts are making the shift over to the Voting Rights Act. They will be with you momentarily....

If you say that something is fake, a false flag, a setup, a hoax, a psyop, or staged before you have gathered any evidence and had a chance to analyze it, you’re radicalized, and that radicalization is impacting your ability to assess reality.

If this string of assassination attempts had involved a Democratic president instead, we’d have a prolonged national conversation about the scourge of right-wing violence and every Republican would be made to condemn their own side’s heated rhetoric. So why is this different?

“It’s going to happen again, Donald san. Be careful.”

Impossible to solve this case. Thousands of journalists in the room. Everyone a suspect.

My man

Is this a good time to mention that the Democrats' new darling, Hasan Piker, said he wanted the blood of his political opponents to run in the streets and recently justified the murder of an innocent father because he ran a health insurance company?

I can confirm that shots were indeed fired and that the gunman is down.

In San Antonio the churches play the Star Spangled Banner with their bells.

@dave_tremaine @MoronMining @reddit_lies Premium X is advertised with higher limits to Grok AI. I don't know what that entails though.

@jortron @MoronMining @reddit_lies Is it confirmed as an issue? According to Grok, that's how it is designed. The premium X account and grok web is an entirely separate subscription, even though you can log into it with your X account. Unless you sub through it, you might as well be a free user.

Patiently waiting for Grok Code so I can stop forking over $200/month to Anthropic.