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Dreamed of being a simultaneous translator as a child

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@balajis A Tamiḻ aphorism comes to mind, which calls upon us to *cultivate the will* to do right, instead of saying just "Do right!". The first can (and should) be done even in unfavourable circumstances where the second can't be. More here: twitter.com/longhandnotes/….
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@santalum_aurum "Wanting to write a book that stays good" maybe a worthwhile exercise in its own right in the long run (perhaps even more than actually writing one) ! 😅 docs.google.com/document/d/1Y6….

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@blog_supplement Granting that the roots of modern academia are in Western monasticism as suggested here by the then Pope and now Pope Emeritus, it maybe interesting to ask how prominently "world conquest" featured among the motivations besides "personal salvation". youtube.com/watch?v=ZIsSjs… 1/
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@alokranj The Clowns of God, Morris West (which lends itself to reading itself though it's the centre of the author's Vatican Trilogy) twitter.com/longhandnotes/….
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@alokranj I confess I was looking for something more contemporary! 😅 I did indeed read Clowns of God by Morris West though, which pictures a not half bad postapocalyptic scenario shorn of decadence. 1/2

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@vezhamukhan @wrathofgnon Among those who've assumed an overall pro-life/pro-natalist inclination "by the light of nature", there may be techno-optimists too who would be with Pope Leo XIV here as far as abortion goes, but part company of the hyphenation with surrogacy. #t=54m48s" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">youtube.com/watch?v=FYnNL1… 54:48-56:53
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@YaaroRegen How do you ward off this defeat? Once in a while, do you see an honourable exception?
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Captain Regen@YaaroRegen·
I travel across libraries in Chennai. Everywhere I see defeated men. They come to read books. They give up in not more than 20 mins. They leave the book open and start scrolling on their phones. They stay for 2 hrs doing this. A whole era of defeated men.
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@dasanil Maybe not in as consolidated a manner as an encyclical but... x.com/search?q=(Dv%C… (Yes, these are all Advaita-affiliated voices and this assortment is only meant as a conversation-starter for similar contributions to the discourse from other traditions. 🙏🏾)
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@tawnyUwU அண்மையில் உலகநாகர் கூறியதுபோல்... x.com/longhandnotes/… #TouchGrass #LookWithin
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@hsraghav In the voice of a comrade of the CM, U. Ve. Kamal Haasan... தூணுக்குள்ளும் இருப்பான்-டி,. துரும்பிலும் இருப்பான்-டி,. நம்பியவர் நெஞ்சில் நிற்பான்-டி (स्थूणेऽप्यस्ति तृणेऽप्यस्ति श्रद्धालोर्हृदि तिष्ठति || ) #t=#t=1m8s" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">youtube.com/watch?v=DTRA_N… 01:08

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Roṭī: Al dente@tawnyUwU·
Asura Hiranyakashipu searching for Lord Vishnu after Baktha Prahalada said that Shri Vishnu is अणोरणीयान् महतो महीयान् ।
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@Anand_Venkatram In any human utterance, accessing the vivakṣā ("intent"/"desire" of the speaker's utterance) is what we do. Now, can a machine have any icchā, let alone "vaktum icchā" (≈vivakṣā)? So there's no there there if we look for the point from which a machine utterance 'bursts forth".
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@Ugrashravas On implications of AI advances viewed via different schemes/taxonomies of capabilities historically associated with sentience, discourse again seems not altogether absent but maybe fairly criticized as not happening in an organized-enough way. x.com/longhandnotes/… 4/4
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@gasumeet What you say about manas, buddhi and so on reminds me of these gaps (between AI & AGI?). Which tool is close to be able to interface with *all* sensory streams the way manas does? And which one, like buddhi, close to being trusted with decision-making beyond "decision-support"?

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@Ugrashravas Stepping even further back, have we even evolved an objective standard (leave alone a procedure) for determining "self-hood" that can resolve uncertainty about self-hood in human neonates or animals with maternal care, that we can claim to apply it definitively to some machine?3/
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They have more important discussions to guide like whether dahi vada is veg or non veg
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@halleyji my only regret is where are our spiritual gurus opining or guiding this conversation? unfortunately focus of our mutts is largely on being faithful tape recorders instead of shaping the direction of technology which downstream affects everything else in society

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@GhorAngirasa That stance hardly seems to have been controversial or have needed tiptoeing around even in fairly traditional circles as recently as a few decades ago. twitter.com/longhandnotes/….
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@hsraghav @vraman16 @GhorAngirasa The repeated warnings about pramāṇa-prameya mismatches in this series by Svāmī Akhaṇḍānanda Sarasvatī seem most timely considering the epidemic nowadays of assuming conveniently defined āpta-vākya as the sole standard of empirical truth too. #t=26m24s" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">youtube.com/watch?v=YjO6Ov… 26:24-33:00

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@hsraghav @vraman16 @GhorAngirasa The repeated warnings about pramāṇa-prameya mismatches in this series by Svāmī Akhaṇḍānanda Sarasvatī seem most timely considering the epidemic nowadays of assuming conveniently defined āpta-vākya as the sole standard of empirical truth too. #t=26m24s" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">youtube.com/watch?v=YjO6Ov… 26:24-33:00
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@hsraghav @vraman16 @GhorAngirasa Śatāvadhānī Dr R Ganesh warns against treating anything besides overcoming bhaya-śoka-moha (fear-sorrow-delusion) as the accomplishment of Vedānta, and assuming those claiming such accomplishment to have mastery of physical/social sciences too. #t=25m37s" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">youtube.com/watch?v=eOsBee… 25:37-37:18
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@blog_supplement @Koenraad_Elst This Hindi talk by Dr. Radhavallabh Tripathi on Dīrghatamā Aucathya Māmateya covers traditional accounts of his origins, and also the poetic besides the philosophical distinctions in sūkta-s ascribed to him, with special emphasis on his symbolic language. youtube.com/watch?v=128tfT….
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@atishayokti @KS1729 Prof Radhavallabh Tripathi, quoting Oppenheimer on the Gītā while surveying its influence on Western thought, records disapproval of rhetoric like "Western scientists stole from Hindu texts", which he says emerges from a sense of inferiority. #t=17m44s" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">youtube.com/watch?v=DFcFxg… 17:44-20:50
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@another_patron For students/'thought-leaders' in Indian Knowledge Systems, what may protect against the disease is to accept, like Prof. Radhavallabh Tripathi, that competing pakṣa-s will persist in the *collective*, however committed an *individual* is to his/hers. x.com/longhandnotes/… 2/2
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@Ugrashravas @VokkalaO @DarkNghtUvacha A senior academic of a rationalist-humanist bent has this to say about such 'conservation' of formally defeated arguments. x.com/longhandnotes/….

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