@GottaLoveMutts @48hghtchrdnck @glompix @bgcts Where is your evidence you cock sucker? There was a pol and it ended blue. Where is your evidence ?
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@48hghtchrdnck @glompix @bgcts They lie.
If they were blindfolded in a room with an anonymous vote, and told they can hold up a red card or a blue card. Red card means you live, blue card means you die if less than 50% raise a blue card, every single one of these sanctimonious cucks is holding up a red card.
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Sauron was defeated precisely because he couldn’t fathom anyone picking blue. Who would be stupid enough?
Frodo and Company toppled a dark lord not through might of arms, but through commitment to Virtue. Subverting the empire for the kingdom
orthodoxmason@orthodoxmason
@IntractableLion Game theorists often conflate a self-interested rationality choice as the right choice. Once the right choice is defined as a form of “payoff” and you think in terms of maximization, you lose the ability to think in terms honor and fidelity. Virtue doesn’t live in a calculus.
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@timurkuran What about turkey’s lack of judicial oversight over basic public rights? Turkey is russia without oil money.
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Istanbul’s busiest airport (IST) has 5 operational runways and a 6th is under construction. It handled 85M passengers in 2025. In that same year, Dubai (DXB), Abu Dhabi (AUH), and Doha (DOH) had a combined total of 192M passengers. Plans are under way to increase IST’s share of the transit air traffic in the region. Like the tax exemption for wealthy foreigners, the broader goal is to restore Istanbul as the Eastern Mediterranean’s leading commercial and financial hub — a status it held for 1,500 years, first under Roman and Byzantine rule, then under the Ottomans.
Daily Turkic@DailyTurkic
Türkiye will grant a 20-year tax exemption on overseas income for foreign nationals moving to the country.
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@Stsantek @ZoeJardiniere They should be sober when they vote. It is not very complicated.
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What do you mean by “on the job” ? If MPs have to be in Parliament until late at night, which they often do three days a week, for months at a time, and while they wait they go out to the dedicated socialising areas of the Parliamentary estate, the terrace and bars, to buy a pint for their staff members, or talk to journalists, or other colleagues, you consider that on the job presumably, but I fail to see how it is different from any other working person going to the pub with colleagues after work. I am very sad that a lot of people in Westminster seem to have alcohol problems, and it seems to me like a wider societal problem not just limited to Westminster. But that is not an argument for dehumanising political work environments.
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Yeah no, sorry, MPs are often cooped up in Parliament for 15 hours a day, they will have a drink with journalists or colleagues and will still be discussing politics -their job, as Hannah says. I don’t like the blanket demonisation of MPs and Hannah should know better after she had already been accused of not taking the job seriously because she took part in that dancing event in Portcullis house. It was unfair to call her unserious about that then and it is unfair of her to now suggest that MPs having a drink in between votes which take up all night is by default bad.
PoliticsJOE@PoliticsJOE_UK
"You can smell the alcohol when people are in between votes." Green MP Hannah Spencer tells us what Westminster is REALLY like. The full interview is live on YouTube, and as a podcast here: linktr.ee/howtorebuildbr…
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@MaryCarmenOrd No, I’m saying that we should assume that the real result skews more toward red than what a poll would represent
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People are posting the results of a 58/42 poll as evidence most people would choose blue.
But once we factor in that people act differently when their life is actually on the line, that’s for me evidence that red is the choice that maximizes lives saved.
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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Peak europoor is having to dry our clothes like this in my living room
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Great initiative from Turkiye. The UK needs to do the same. We need to learn from Turkiye, cut thru the bureaucracy & just do. U.K. - Turkish strategic partnership is critical to U.K. defence. It offers moon shot solutions. We need to just get on with it.
Clash Report@clashreport
NEW: Türkiye plans to produce millions of drones nationwide SAHA Chairman & BAYKAR CEO Haluk Bayraktar says Türkiye plans to set up drone production and training centers in all 81 Turkish provinces. The goal is to create a nationwide network capable of rapidly producing millions of drones when needed.
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@WTMathieu @andreasklinger @neil_chilson Dude pol has been done blue won. Why is this still a debate.
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@andreasklinger @neil_chilson And you can be irrational with them and add to the death toll.
You're gambling both on the fact that they will pick blue, AND that 50% of the others will pick it.
While having no way of knowing either.
This seems silly.
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When I told my wife about this game she asked something I haven’t heard at all in the discourse: how would you tell our kids (ours are under 7) to vote?
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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@JanWithDaPlan @MrFelted @TopherStoll @RealDianeYap At this point i dont think he is capable of getting this man. But i appreciate your effort. You are truly a blue brother.
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@MrFelted @TopherStoll @RealDianeYap Blue would not fail based on every single time this poll has been tested
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“Would you risk your life for people who are bad at expected value problems?”
The answer is straightforward. Either you care about the outcome or you care about looking like a heckin’ good person.
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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@TheSOLhog @klaptenning It is absolutely not there dude. You should write it again. If blue wins everybody saved. If red wins only red lives. It is not what is written there
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Titanic is sinking, there are infinite life vests in quantity, two types:
- Red life vest will save your life with absolute certainty.
- Blue life vest is not inflated and only inflate and save you if >50% of people choose the blue life vest.
Which life vest are you putting on your child?
There's 6 orphan children next to you as well. You can save their life by helping them put on a life vest.
Which life vest are you helping them put on?
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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@lporiginalg Well us zoomers think “billions need to die” lol. I think if you were younger you’d pick red too.
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You have to admit this is a hilarious tweet. Blue has won and everyone lives but all the red pressers are coping about their high IQs or whatever while having to love the rest of their lives knowing they would cowardly condemn their fellow man to death to save their own skin.
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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@Patric_cal @plasmarob There would be still some teenager messing with the pol. And he does deserve some chance. Just press blue dude. We are majority.
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@plasmarob You have a gun in your hand
Press red: put gun down
Press blue: point gun at head
If >50% press blue, put gun down
If <50% press blue, pull trigger
(Hint: just don't point gun at your head)
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@AviNahir @Microinteracti1 @FoxNews Why is not nord korea attacked than? You americans are all cunts.
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@Microinteracti1 @FoxNews Define "attack". If a country controller by a terrorist fanatic religious regime is developing a nuclear bomb on missiles that can reach all pact countries, is this an attack or not?
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BREAKING: Secretary of War Pete Hegseth calls out America's allies: "The time for free riding is over."
"America and the free world deserve allies who are capable, who are loyal, and who understand that being an ally is not a one way street."
"We barely use the Strait of Hormuz as a country. Our energy doesn't flow through there, and we have plenty of energy."
"We are not counting on Europe, but they need the Strait of Hormuz much more than we do, and might want to start doing less talking and having less fancy conferences in Europe and getting a boat."
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@pmokeefe @kareem_carr Casting a vote with hoping that majority of humans are kind and risk themself for others is noble itself. And it comes with the perk of bot living in a red majority world. It is win win
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@kareem_carr Consider that your Blue vote only saves someone in the extremely unlikely case that your vote breaks a tie. If there already was a Blue majority your vote makes no difference, everyone lives either way. If it was a Red majority your vote kills one more person. You.
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If you press blue, the worst case is you die.
If you press red, the worst case is you took part in an action that killed just under half of humanity.
Clicking blue minimizes the worst-case moral injury.
It says you’d rather die than risk contributing to the death of another.
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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@KooHo_jin @davidshor Do you have any concrete evidence it would not be?
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@davidshor Do you really think this would be the actual result if people had skin in the game
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We asked this to a large sample of nationally representative Americans - blue wins by a 3:1 margin!
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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@HairyLeggdHarpy @Barrowwight Hahahahaha. There is no body in her mother‘s basement where he writes his post. Her mother is dead upstairs because she chooses blue.
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@Barrowwight Am I to surmise you don't have any loved ones you'd try to save?
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Just before you press your button of choice, you're informed that in almost every hypothetical trial run of this poll, whether online or real life, the population has chosen blue above red.
You fact check this. It's true.
Your loved ones have already voted.
What do you press?
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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She's a ten but she's a red button pusher
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@apstrusus84 @kevlap017 @quantum_geoff I would risk my life anytime there is chance to save countless others. You guys are just selfish bastards thinking that you are the clever one.
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It is indeed selfish when given a path of guaranteed safety, to instead choose one where your life is now dependent on others also unnecessary risking theirs.
And it also is the only path where any loss of life could occur at all in this thought experiment.
And yes because the vote is private, the percentage of people choosing blue is not known. But that is NOT then an argument to add additional unnecessary risk, it is in fact an argument for the opposite. As every blue vote is a potential life lost, because the percentage is unknown, if you value life, the only choice is to ensure the life you have a choice over is not at risk. You are otherwise potentially maximizing the resulting loss of life by adding to the number lost.
A choice of red is the assured preservation of at least one life. A choice of blue is the potential loss of one.
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For those claiming that voting red isn’t a symptom of selfishness, imagine a variant of this where your vote doesn’t determine your own life, but the life of a random person assigned to you...
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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@apstrusus84 @kevlap017 @quantum_geoff Jeesus, lets say some people are stupid and they choose blue, would you rather let these people die, if that was your father or mother? Wouldn‘t you take a risk to save them?
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But you are not making the decision for others, you are choosing only between a zero chance of death (red) and a non-zero one (blue). If you value life (both your own and others) the ONLY choice is red, as you are otherwise completely unnecessarily risking the lives of up to 49.99% of humanity. And that is a risk that only exists AT ALL BECAUSE of your choice. Choosing blue is a selfish, stupid choice that shows a total disregard for the value of human life.
Yes, if one actively chooses the option where one of the potential consequences is death, then yes, one of the potential consequences is that they might die.
That is not then an argument, however, to willingly risk additional lives in an effort to save those that chose potential death from themselves. If your intention is to minimize the overall loss of life, the individual choice is always to choose the zero path over the one with a non-zero potential for death.
And yes, you have no control over others. If you did, then of course ensuring there is a majority of blue is the correct path. But that is not the question here.
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@Steffenb3rg @CalderVenn @oliveegger These fuckers have no idea how unbearable they are, but still people don’t want them to die. The world moves on the shoulders of kind people.
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@CalderVenn @oliveegger "You're so stupid, idiots like me are gonna kill you!"
Yeah man that's how it is every day, yet we show compassion, yet we try to build a better world for everyone
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@HiThere144 @fallenFisherman @peterrhague Given the choice you are one of those who save himself. You are lucky that world is not filled with people such as yourself.
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@fallenFisherman @peterrhague You rolled the dice with your life and were a winner, and you call yourself smart?
I didn't roll the dice at all, and I achieved the good of preserving my life in 100% of possible outcomes in the vote
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Amazing how lots of self appointed game theory experts confidently asserting that blue is the stupid choice. But every time this poll is run blue wins. Not only is the “game theory” answer predicting the wrong outcome, its explanatory power is based on it being able to predict the right answer. So it’s doubly wrong.
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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