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The solution is something that I call “ ‘Just starve women’ theory”

This penny-wise-pound-foolish boomerslop re-emerges every three or so months and I'm tired of it. It's a rehash of how boomers used to mock millennials for spending too much money on "avocado toast," repurposed to attack zoomers who expect more out of life then ramen and poverty. 1) Boomers never followed their own advice. Every boomer is a lifelong spendthrift. It was very common for boomers to rack up huge amounts of credit card debt in the 80s only for their spouse to force them to pay it off to keep the marriage from falling apart. I used to work for a startup whose primary customer base were boomers and the endless litany of complaints I got about our prices could fill a book. Hey boomer, stop buying a pack of Busch Light every day and you can save up the $1,000 to buy our product. Unfortunately, telling this to broke old farts was considered "rude." Boomers love to get themselves into debt for no reason, but they justify it by convincing themselves that these retarded purchases are "necessary." Boomers would excoriate their kids for spending small amounts of money on a CD or a movie ticket while getting into an adjustable-rate mortgage so they could afford a new car. I remember my mom going nuclear on me when I bought a $20 copy of METAL GEAR SOLID 3: SUBSISTENCE from the Kmart I worked at as a teenager. "You're WASTING money!" Meanwhile she was on her third car in eight years, having bought it with a car loan immediately after paying off the loan on her previous car. A car that was perfectly fine. She was also fond of buying the 64-ounce coffee from Dunkin Donuts and heating it up in the microwave the next morning as opposed to brewing her own coffee, which would be cheaper. Inevitably some boomer will chime in with, "You don't know shit! I had to live in a trailer in 1982 because Volcker blew up the economy and I was only making $13,000 a year!" First off, that's about $46,000 a year in today's money. Second, you were still spending money on frivolities because their cost hadn't ballooned. You could still afford to go out to the bar every Friday because a beer was a buck and your other hobby, watching TV, was free. A beer now costs between $8-12 and streaming services, the modern equivalent of TV, costs $20 a month. Boomers will even say things like "stop buying new smartphones" not knowing about planned obsolescence. I was using an old Galaxy S6 most of last year after my S8 broke. I bought the S6 in 2017 and the S8 in 2021, both refurbished. I'm a model of boomer thrift! Except the S6 was useless. Couldn't install banking apps on it. Couldn't install X or email apps. Couldn't even install Brave. I could use it for texting and calls and that was it. Couldn't even use it for 2FA, which is mandatory on everything thanks to all the scamming Indians the boomers invited in. 2) We live in a society that has systematically deprived young Americans of any reasonable path to prosperity. First we were told to go to college, then the Great Recession blew up the economy and Obama sealed in the ruin. Then we were told to major in STEM only for boomer politicians to invite a horde of Indians to take those jobs. Then we were told to go to trade school. Trucking has already been taken over by Indians (though the recent Supreme Court ruling has booted them out). You don't think cheap-dick boomers are eager to import Indians or Mexicans to take all the plumber and electrician jobs? There's already a crisis in contracting. Half the contractors out there are dogshit and will cause more damage to your house then they'll fix. This is because they can only hire felons and drug addicts because the average contractor is run by a penny-pinching boomer who pays his workers shit and treats them like shit. He then whines he can't get any reliable employees. The call is coming from inside the house (on the rotary phone you bought in 1987). Boomers climbed the ladder of success, pulled it up, and are now belittling everyone at the bottom for not being able to scale a ten-foot wall. They benefited from union wages, a social safety net, and not having to compete with THE ENTIRE WORLD for entry-level jobs. And they have the audacity to blame millennials and zoomers and rattle off BS like "you're poor because you enjoy things." Yeah, I'm sure cutting out the $3 7Eleven coffee will help me save up for a $500,000 house by the time I'm 70. 3) Is this the best America can offer? Living like a turd worlder? I thought this was the Greatest Country in the World. In what universe can a boomer tell young people to live lives of abject squalor and think it's GOOD advice? The Greatest and Silent Generations, whatever their flaws, labored to build a better society so that future generations wouldn't have to live through hellish experiences like the Great Depression and World War II. Boomers, the beneficiaries of that better society, trashed it and then mock you for having any expectations for a good life. No wonder boomers love Indians. They go together like sodomy and GRIDS. The Indian is what boomers think millennials and zoomers should be: eating vegetable slop, sleeping on a mat in a basement with a dozen other people, and thinking this is not only an acceptable way to live, it's DESIRABLE. This fuels boomers' love of Zillow crack shack slop posting. They actually think it's good advice to move to some shithole in the rural Midwest and work at Dollar General for the rest of your life. Why is socialism appealing to young people? Because of boomers. Because boomers think it's funny that they rugpulled you, made off with society's riches, and now get to lecture you about thrift while they sit on a wealth of home equity on a shitbox they bought in 1979. They're saying "let them eat cake" while the angry mobs form outside the castle. If we end up with a Zohran Mamdani-like figure as president, it'll be because of boomers' stunning lack of empathy. A generation of psychopaths.

@revenant_MMXX The only thing zoomers can really sincerely blame Millennials for is Tumblrites.

Millennials know the pain of what Zoomers are going through, but for some reason Zoomers are really interested in trying to blame us for things that Boomers inflicted on us all. Every economic crisis since the '90s was caused by Boomer leadership.

@WodenWanderer @StefanMolyneux

@StefanMolyneux Might as well dust off this 2016 meme for the occasion.

Not an argument, kiddo, do try to think a little. Maybe this will help: Artoftheargument.com

AI is criticized for not communicating interiority/qualia, which is what people want from art generally. Artists may still use AI to communicate qualia, however. The real meat of the discussion is exploring how normies lack both interiority and qualia as p-zombies lacking thought

@revenant_MMXX Death upon those who countersignal the bloomin onion

Boomers mistake being cheapskates for being frugal. When I was a kid my Boomer parents thought "going out to eat" meant going to Outback Steakhouse or some shit like that. (It's still them keeping these dogshit restaurants alive now and when they die, Darden & co. die with them)

"Urban planning nerds" shit on the suburbs for the same reason they shit on carrying firearms - they resent that Americans have found ways to evade their decreed punishment

Lesbians being obsessed with men is good evidence that lesbianism isn't a sexual orientation but a social orientation against men x.com/i/status/20552…

@Leo_Abstract @mnmcsofgp @tracewoodgrains @barakgila What is there even left to talk about regarding these topics? It's just a vehicle to argue over principled homophobia / principled anti homophobia. These are axiomatic beliefs not really suitable for debate beyond counting votes for policymaking.

@mnmcsofgp @tracewoodgrains @barakgila i deliberately bracketed off whether or not this criticism is fair. i don't find the question interesting, either way--my only point was that folks talking about surrogacy being bad are very often not telling you everything they think. -that- is the part i find interesting.

my twete escaping containment is reminding me how lucky i am to be in sf where it's not remotely controversial for a gay man to want a husband and kids

@MinModulation Most people probably do not have a primary identity. The median person is illiterate and has no hobbies other than the consumption of goods. Insofar as we're paying attention to only ensouled people, you're probably correct, but I'd say most critiques are just mere spell-insults.

@SockbatReplica What are you even mad about

YOU clearly did.

Every zoomer uniformly wants to bang pomni from TADC despite her being coded as <18 and this is really problematic and you’re not allowed to talk about it soberly and it’s the same problem boomers outline when they mention the anecdote of the median driver breaking 11 laws a day.

Do you think you just fell out of a coconut tree

@PickledBeenis @ItsKaSyl @KaiKai2492 I can save you

@ItsKaSyl @KaiKai2492 I wish I was a guy but I'm not trans. I wish I was a guy because it's easier than being a girl.

Westerners really need to stop pushing egg/trans culture onto people. I want to be a girl, if I could respawn as a girl I wouldn't hesitate, if I could pull off crossdressing I would, I'm not Trans, I don't have gender dysphoria, not everyone that shows interest in being the opposite sex is trans, I am a guy will always be a guy and there's no way to change that no matter how badly I'd like to.

@ArtBellicose @gunk4188 Do you mean to imply that the gynocratic longhouse is itself God?

@gunk4188 That scrutiny is from God, bud. You're bent out of shape because you're ashamed. I'm not lecturing you. The world is 1000x worse for you poor young fuckers than it is/was for me.

The level of scrutiny men receive even for completely private masturbation habits in a country that removes flesh from their penis as infants as a holdover from a 19th century movement to reduce male libido is justification for the worst excesses of incel rhetoric

@tracewoodgrains Good insight!

take names seriously. p4 signals to every onlooker, every day, that he sucks. that's the signal he wants to send with his name, and if you take the signal seriously you'll dodge the risk of ever falling for his approach

man, this is such a scummy post. I have serious substantive disagreements with Nicholas, but his resume, and his willingness to put it in public, is a strong positive signal. do stuff. think in public. be willing to be embarrassed. let the peanut gallery mock.

@EastMilsim2 @kumkwer She was a sexual patriot.

@kumkwer I knew a radfem back in college who also thought that porn was jewish propaganda, but specifically propaganda directed towards her, and it was the reason why she was horny 24/7 and needed to masturbate 7 times a day

Radfem view of porn where it activates men like diddy epstein sleeper agents vs manosphere view of porn where it's propaganda from da joos to turn them into submissive femboys

The communications gap is that biological conservatives wouldn't chimp out over intolerable crimes happening somewhere else, but libs would. We know this because they're the side that commits all ideologically-motivated terrorism in the US. That's what people are missing.