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@searedbite5

a fellow traveler / semiprofessional retard / guitar enthusiast

Indianapolis, IN Katılım Şubat 2021
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D-Atomic Punk@searedbite5·
This is me, if you care
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@Liv_Agar I'm not going to cry too much if a murderer has to suffer for 6 minutes. How long do you think his victim suffered?
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Liv@Liv_Agar·
The Overton window has swung so far right on this website that you forget that “I don’t want the state to be able to kill someone by forcing them to drown in their own blood for six minutes” is actually a normal thing to think
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David Pivtorak
David Pivtorak@TheDavidPiv·
Here's the thing: in *theory* it's good that even the worst of us is entitled to a competent defense lawyer. But the reality is that being good at this job also means being responsible for unleashing irredeemable monsters back into society. And, for a decent person, that inevitably eats away at your soul. So all the decent people go find something else to do. And what you're left with is a profession that's occupied entirely by zealots and ghouls—like this woman who fetishizes violent criminals but couldn't care less about the harm they inflict. These are the antisocial demons who revel in destruction but get to wrap themselves in the Constitution for plausible deniability. My point here isn't that we should end our adversarial system or erode existing rights. It's that we should be clear-eyed about the realities of modern criminal justice and fully understand the tradeoffs that went into creating it.
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D-Atomic Punk@searedbite5·
The DUI didn't cost me my license!
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D-Atomic Punk@searedbite5·
@FINALE2024 @FedPoasting The same lawyer who represented that guy also allegedly defended a child predator named Stephan Sterns, and I have to assume as his lawyer she would try to get him a weaker sentence. Yeah it's her job but I don't necessarily agree with that course of action.
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D-Atomic Punk@searedbite5·
Once you rape and kill someone and you've been duly convicted of that a lot of people might be of the opinion that you should be given the death penalty. Even if it's effective lawyering, your lawyer should expect to be spat on and hated for helping someone like that out. It comes with the job.
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pagliacci the hated 🌝
People have a right to a defense, yes. And getting a client life instead of execution may be an impressive professional maneuver as far as showing your prowess as a defense attorney goes. But when your clients are all rapists and murderers, you have a higher burden of responsibility to have some sense about optics. Defense attorneys shouldn’t be publicly celebrating and boasting and laughing about getting evil men more lenient sentences. A 93-year-old elder was raped and brutally murdered. You are spitting on her family. People have every right to call you a retard for not being respectful of your particularly sensitive position.
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beth
beth@bethbourdon·
scrolling through twitter i am seeing QTs of my tweet and it appears i have triggered a lot of men who cannot handle a woman as a defense attorney. they cannot handle that i'm proud to have saved a life. they can't handle that i morally don't believe in the death penalty (i also believe it violates the 8th amendment). they don't believe in the 6th amendment's right to counsel. they're actively wishing me dead for doing my job and calling me a whore because of my job (weirdest part). if you believe in the death penalty, that's fine. many do. but the irony of wishing me dead to say that murder is wrong and thus the death penalty is good is very puzzling.
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beth@bethbourdon·
@dontbanjake @memeticsisyphus jake, perhaps you have failed to read the comments calling me a whore, a pedofile, wishing death upon me, asking why i think i should get to live, etc. maybe that's not in this particular tweet, but it's all over the place. so yes, people do begrudge me for doing my job.
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memetic_sisyphus@memeticsisyphus·
If you were to search her case history for a man who sexually abused his girl friends daughter for years filming it before eventually murdering her, you would still have to narrow it down further because she keeps taking on those cases.
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D-Atomic Punk@searedbite5·
@7bBitters Call me crazy but I think it's worse to rape and murder an old woman than it is for the government to kill someone who raped and murdered an old woman
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D-Atomic Punk@searedbite5·
@bethbourdon You can celebrate a favorable outcome with more tact and grace than was shown. You saved a rapist and murderer. Yeah it's your job but does the family need to see you cheering about it?
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beth@bethbourdon·
yesterday i got a life verdict on a death penalty case. i'm very proud to have saved a life! *my original tweet has been deleted because it was past the time to edit it and there was a request from a dear friend to remove the gif. ❤️
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D-Atomic Punk@searedbite5·
@dyingscribe Look bro there are just some criminals who need to fuckin go, no matter what the constitution says.
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Poe's Law, Esq: Poe's Lawyer
Tactless cheer over a brutal rapist and killer, what is hard to understand here?
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Pericles
Pericles@PerryALPHA·
I'm an ICE agent and I just shot an illegal who was trying to run me over with his car
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D-Atomic Punk@searedbite5·
@_rsheedh_ @JohnDoe14629 @bethbourdon What do you want to know? Yeah, I have personal moral qualms about lightening sentences for especially bad offenders. I was just trying to ask what she as a lawyer felt about that. I never said her clients didn't deserve representation.
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Rasheed 🎓@_rsheedh_·
@searedbite5 @JohnDoe14629 @bethbourdon You haven't made any real arguments this entire thread. You are loading your questions with the implication that it SHOULD feel bad to defend people's legal right to representation without elaborating why she should feel bad.
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D-Atomic Punk@searedbite5·
I can get on with that. I understand every fair concession should be made to ensure everyone, guilty or not, has their day in court. Once a bad criminal is convicted though, I have trouble sympathizing and lightening their sentences if it's a particularly bad case like child abuse.
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John Doe
John Doe@JohnDoe14629·
@searedbite5 @bethbourdon I'm an adult survivor of something similar. I don't necessarily think it should always lead to the death penalty, and I think she is right, and that people do deserve a fair trial. But in this instance? A life for a life is justice.
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D-Atomic Punk@searedbite5·
@JohnDoe14629 @bethbourdon I know, and when I pressed her about it she avoided the question and stopped replying. Proud enough to take a victory lap on twitter, not proud enough to defend why she does it.
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D-Atomic Punk@searedbite5·
@ARandomName68 @Dakota_McM @bethbourdon That's all I'm saying dude. What good does it do to preserve the life of an evil person? Why give him a chance to do it again? Just to adhere to the constitution? Fuck that.
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D-Atomic Punk@searedbite5·
@Dakota_McM @bethbourdon So if I'm understanding your viewpoint correctly, if a guy rapes a kid and is arrested and found guilty and his attorney gets him a plea deal down from the death penalty, the attorney has done a morally righteous thing by keeping a pedophile alive?
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Kota@Dakota_McM·
@searedbite5 @bethbourdon It's called due process (which yes, exists even after a guilty verdict) its guaranteed by the constitution of the United States. The job of attorneys is to protect thesr rights. So its good for everyone if those rights are guaranteed. AGAIN. I didnt write the constitution
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D-Atomic Punk@searedbite5·
Maybe you didn't read the thread or something, but we're talking about two separate things. I'm not making a constitutional argument. I already said that I get people deserve due process, but once they get that, and are found guilty of a heinous crime worthy of death, what good does it do for society if a scumbag lawyer gets him a life sentence instead of just putting him in the ground? AGAIN. I am referring to someone who has already been found GUILTY.
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Kota@Dakota_McM·
@searedbite5 @bethbourdon I get it, the constitution is old, has some big words in there. Can be hard to get through. Maybe you just dont care about the rights the founding fathers enshrined, i understand. But thats the law of the land. And attorneys are upholding the constitution by doing their job.
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D-Atomic Punk@searedbite5·
Learn to read you stupid fuck. I'm talking about the guilty. People who did really commit a crime and the lawyers who, seeing the totality of evidence, believe their client is guilty of something like child exploitation (Stephan Sterns -- convicted child predator who Miss Bourdon represented). I'm asking how they can morally justify defending someone like that who's already been found GUILTY. They just see it as a personal win to get them a life sentence instead of the death penalty.
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Kota@Dakota_McM·
@searedbite5 @bethbourdon You can imagine a version of Washington that agrees with you, or you could actually just read the constitution and see that they did put these rights in there! Turns out, you need to run a fair trial before you punish someone! Don't get mad at me, get mad at them for writing it
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