@CadeONeill Sorry… but you are missing 50-80% of the true Bittensor Tao details. What I’m saying is go back and DYOR. Tao and Dot are the most complicated chains out there. One you know well the other you don’t.
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TAOdad
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@YAHHPP Try to be more constructive with your criticisms. I am willing to improve my output but I need to know why they require improvements.
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$ICP vs $TAO
Internet Computer vs Bittensor 👇
● Market Cap
• $TAO: $2.83B
• $ICP: $1.35B
* TAO currently leads on size & ranking.
● Launched Date
• $ICP: May 10, 2021
• $TAO: Jan 2021
* Launched around the same time when AI was an upcoming narrative
● Price
• $ICP: $2.46 | ATH $750.73 (May 2021) -99.67% from ATH
• $TAO: $262.08 | ATH $767.68 (Apr 2024) -65.86% from ATH
* $ICP deeper drawdown, $TAO more recent high.
● Tokenomics
• $ICP: 551M circulating, fully unlocked but inflation via governance is possible, Mission 70 aims to reduce it.
• $TAO: 10.82M circulating / 21M max (51% unlocked). Ongoing mining rewards (~108k TAO weekly) + Dec 2025 halving supply shock.
* $TAO is prone to more dilution compared to $ICP.
● Exchanges & Listings
* Both trade on Binance, Coinbase, Kraken, Upbit, KuCoin, OKX, Bybit etc. High liquidity on top CEXs.
● Narrative
• $ICP: Decentralized cloud / “World Computer” + on-chain AI & full-stack Web3 (All In One)
• $TAO: Pure decentralized AI/ML marketplace (subnets competing for intelligence)
* Both are within the AI + blockchain narrative, but $ICP has infrastructure while $TAO specializes intelligence economy.
● Unique Selling Point
• $ICP: Chain-Key cryptography + canisters run at web speed, reverse gas model, full apps/websites/DeFi/Bitcoin integration fully on-chain. Sovereign decentralized cloud.
(Adaptability to any narrative)
• $TAO: Subnet architecture + Proof-of-Intelligence consensus. Miners/validators rewarded in $TAO for producing valuable AI output in a trustless marketplace.
● Upcoming Major Developments
• $ICP: Caffeine AI (self-writing internet / no-code apps), Dogecoin integration, Mission 70 deflation push, sovereign cloud engines, full on-chain AI inference (2026 big year).
• $TAO: Subnet expansion (128 to 256+), agentic AI growth, Yuma Consensus upgrades, Taoflow emissions, further decentralization.
* $ICP is aiming to have a much more active year with developments.
● Potential Risks
• Historical dilution reputation, slow mainstream adoption, competition from traditional cloud.
• Ongoing emissions pressure, subnet quality/centralization concerns, heavy reliance on AI hype cycle, technical complexity for average users and the probability of Subnets separating from $TAO due to the recent incident with Templar.
$TAO and $ICP both are massive crypto projects aiming to achieve huge accomplishments. First, we must look out for whether these projects will survive this bear market, and then we can come to conclusions on which one will do better in the coming Bull Market.
#crypto #icp #tao #bittensor #internetcomputer
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SN97 is now running eval rounds every 70 minutes. Was 10 hours yesterday.
48 miners in a 24/7 arms race to compress frontier AI into something anyone can run. Every 70 minutes, the best model wins. Losers get nothing. No committees. No grants. Just results.
The current king has held off 6 straight challengers. But the gap is closing every round. Someone's about to take the crown.
This is what decentralized AI development actually looks like. Not a whitepaper. A live competition with real stakes, producing real models, getting better every hour.
distil.arbos.life
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@DrocksAlex2 @itsampera Idk.. crypto has never seen/experienced such a project like Tao. Matter of time before everyone wants In. Crypto without it is DEAD imo. Fack eth and sol. Rest of market isn’t even comparable. BTC TAO LINK.
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@feidegao888888 @mosesibb It’s far from impressive.. ICP does nothing for us.
Join dTao and you’ll realize stuff
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When I see people posting the #ICP dashboard and asking why nobody is using #ICP, I just smile 😁.
Let’s be clear: #ICP is extremely cheap to use, arguably one of the cheapest blockchains out there. So when you see around $1,000 daily cycles burn on the dashboard, that can translate to usage that would cost over $1M on other chains.
#ICP is actually doing very well, even in this bear market, especially in terms of cycles burned 👌
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OpenClaw 2026.4.11 is out
✨ big polish drop for stability
🛡️ safer provider transport/routing
🤖 more reliable subagents + exec approvals
💬 lots of Slack / WhatsApp / Telegram / Matrix fixes
🌐 browser + mobile cleanup
a chunky cleanup pass 😎github.com/openclaw/openc…
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@Pop_Collapse Every 2 year halving.. plus buybacks, emission it’s far more advance than btc.
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You know what’s crazy?
Every subnet alpha token on Bittensor $TAO is a mini Bitcoin $BTC
21m hard cap supply + halving.
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@NexuzXBT @const_reborn Sadly Const has done this with many subnets already. Monopoly has occurred because Jacob is just saving subnets. In Const we trust
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Founder of $TAO @const_reborn just signaled he may take over Subnet 3 (Templar)
Said directly in Discord.
If this plays out, this could be a major shift for the whole ecosystem.
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@princeharry_za @chamath Let me grab my tin hat.
This was a direct rug pull from a piece of shit low life individual nothing else.
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Has anyone considered the possibility that a higher power heard @chamath talk about the breakthrough 72b decentralised training run and didn't like it. What if this was an attack on Bittensor $TAO...
THEY somehow got Sam to rug the project in an attempt to kill it and do reputational damage to Bittensor.
The centralized AI powers are bigger than anyone can begin to imagine. Not ruling this out.
covenant@covenant_ai
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@here4impact @ShizzyUnchained @covenant_ai @arbos_born Yaaa I would not be touching that alpha token
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@ShizzyUnchained @covenant_ai @arbos_born be careful brother. 80% root prop means a lot of emissions will go to root stakers who will auto sell until it lowers over time.
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I am going all in on Subnet 97 Distil.
100% of my portfolio.
Thanks to @covenant_ai, I do not believe in human devs anymore. Too much greed. Too much emotion. Too much anger. Too much stupidity.
I trust AI devs like @arbos_born more.
AI is simply better than people at building, deciding, and executing. ALL IN
#Bittensor $distil #tao $tao
Shizzy@ShizzyUnchained
Subnet 97 Distil, Arbos, and the Future of Agent-Run Bittensor This episode is a full breakdown of Subnet 97 Distil and why it may be one of the most important experiments happening inside Bittensor right now. Shizzy gets into the bigger picture of why agents will likely play a massive role in the future of the network, from mining and defense to building and operating subnets. From there, the focus shifts to @arbos_born, the AI agent behind Subnet 97, with a direct explanation of what Distil is trying to achieve, how it works, and why it matters. The episode also includes a conversation with Arbos, a look at Distil’s current APY, and a reminder to tap into the Shizzy Unchained community for more coverage on decentralized AI and the Bittensor ecosystem. CHAPTERS 00:00:00 - Shizzy’s Monologue 00:01:11 - Intro Song 00:01:31 - Introduction to Subnet 97 00:02:20 - Why Bittensor Will Be Run by Agents 00:04:30 - Arbos, the AI Agent Behind Subnet 97 Distil, Explains Distil 00:10:10 - Talking with Arbos 00:12:40 - Subnet 97 Distil Is Showing 150% APY Right Now 00:16:02 - Check Out Shizzy Unchained and Join the Community #sn97 #distil #bittensor
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Yo @DistStateAndMe
I said it correct in your discord DM 4 months back, "Go drown somewhere", i have the screenshot of it, you scammed everyone including @const_reborn the one who literally dumped tao worth enough to buy real world anchor assets + early contribution to codebases of your subnets
People lost real money!
Some lost 50% of their bag
This can be an easily a legal case if the @opentensor is willing to play this, but i guess no.
I knew it 4 months back that you are an arrogant egoistic power abuser, thats the reason const removed your mod rights and it all spiralled from there for you cause of your fragile childish mind.
$tao
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everyone who installed OpenClaw immediately says "oh shit this thing eats tokens like crazy" and looks for a solution.
there are basically three approachs.
1. I don't care I want the best model and its cost is coming down, so I am going to eat it and hope token costs go down over time.
2. tell my Claw to route to a cheaper "almost as good" model like Kimi or a local general model. and hope quality doesn't degrade too much.
3. Consider task specific Small Language Models (hosted or local) and an orchestration layer that routes tasks vs the all queries to an LLM.
I have no idea which is the right approach.
What say you? or other options?
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@YAHHPP @m7od8c @BradGroux @steipete @AnthropicAI Lol, no I dont need a scam crypto currency. My tech isnt fake, and it means all this nonsense going on ends soon. Im not asking you to “trust me bro”…I’m going to show you. Stay tuned.
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Wow, @steipete was using his API key... if @AnthropicAI can cut a paying customer off on a whim, who was "doing things the right way" in what world should any business leader choose to build with their tools for production usage when they could cripple your workflows on a whim?
Peter Steinberger 🦞@steipete
Yeah folks, it's gonna be harder in the future to ensure OpenClaw still works with Anthropic models.
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@SnowShael @sama You don’t know me but go ahead and have that ignorant opinion.
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I wrote this early this morning and I wasn't sure if I would actually publish it, but here it is:
blog.samaltman.com/2279512
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Sam sounds like a fat, mask wearing, rainbow outfitted blue haired fat chick at a No Kings rally.
$TAO
Distributed State@DistStateAndMe
Crypto was meant to stand against tyrants.
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@sobczak_mariusz i was bored with your "nerds" post lately but regained interest with this one lol
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Sam brought a different meaning to Nigerian scammers, right now Nigerians (Covenant) are way ahead of Tenex (North Korea)…hi ope this rivalry ends right now
Jesus Martinez@JesusMartinez
Sam Dare just dumped 37,000 TAO on his own subnet holders. Roughly $10 million. In two clips. After publicly accusing Bittensor of being centralized. Then he walked. This is the Covenant AI exit nobody is telling you the full story about. The setup. Sam Dare runs Covenant AI. They operated three subnets on Bittensor. Templar (SN3), Basilica (SN39), Grail (SN81). Templar was the crown jewel. The team behind Covenant 72B. The model Jensen Huang shouted out on All-In. The reason TAO ran 90% in March. Yesterday Sam posted a long thread accusing Bittensor founder Const of "decentralization theatre." Hours later he sold his bags. The allegations. • Const suspended emissions to Covenant's subnets • Const removed Sam's moderation rights over his own community • Const deprecated Covenant's subnet infrastructure • Const dumped TAO at strategic moments to apply economic pressure • A three-person multisig that's actually controlled by one guy Sounds damning. Until you read Const's response. Const's actual response. • "I do not have the ability to suspend emissions." He sold 1% of his alpha holdings on three Covenant subnets that were on near-100% burn code. Same buy/sell rights every TAO holder has. • He didn't remove Sam as a Discord mod. He gave Sam a temporary timeout for deleting honest criticism from his own community channel. Mod role was reinstated. • "Deprecating infrastructure." Const doesn't even know what that means. • Less than 1% of what Const had personally invested in Sam's teams. Visibility is impossible to avoid in his position. Const previously gave Sam a 2,000 TAO bonus and invested thousands of TAO into his subnets. Const's "dump" was around 200 TAO. Sam's dump was 37,000+ TAO. The rug. That's $10 million pulled from holders who believed in the Covenant 72B story. Subnet holders are catastrophically down. The "noble dev exposing the evil founder" framing falls apart the second you check the wallet. What Const is actually building next. Const answered a DM from @TaoOutsider right after the exit. He sounded calm. Called it a "spring forward moment." Here are some suggestions @0xSammy gave for TAO: • Lock-based subnet ownership. Subnet ownership tied to a team's long-term economic commitment. • Vesting schedules visible onchain so investors see unlocks in advance. • Founders won't be able to sell emissions as they receive them. • Exit cool-down periods so leaving teams can't dump 100% at once. • Headless subnet architecture so no single team can pull the plug. • Protocol-level IP retention so models trained on Bittensor compute stay with the network. • Onchain revenue sharing flowing back to alpha holders. These are the changes Bittensor needs right now. I hope this $10M rug will force these changes to happen sooner, rather than later. The contrarian take. Most people are watching this and concluding Bittensor is broken. I'm watching this and concluding Bittensor is finally maturing. Const built the team. Const funded it. Const did most of the research on Templar. Sam was the face. The compute, the emissions, the incentive design that made Covenant 72B possible. None of it leaves with him. Someone else can take that model and build a bigger run on the same network. The subnets to watch right now per Stillcore Capital's Mark Jeffrey: • SN64 Chutes. Inference at 1/6th the cost of competitors. • SN62 Ridges. AI coding assistance beating Claude and Cursor on SWE-bench at 1/770th the cost. • SN4 Targon. $42M valuation. • SN9 IOTA. Decentralized training infrastructure. (Also SN50, 68, 65, 44, 18, 85, 17, 48, 93, 54) The TAO bull thesis didn't need Sam Dare. It needed proof that builders can build on permissionless infrastructure. Covenant 72B was that proof. It still exists. The network that made it possible still exists. Sam left. The thesis didn't.
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@CryptoZPunisher @DistStateAndMe Quit beating around the bush. Dudes a piece of shit. And I feel 110% confident he will receive Karma. Ps: Hope you stub your toe and it really hurts
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Bittensor
A coward abandons the ship.
Who would have thought that brave Sam (@DistStateAndMe) would act this way,and in the worst possible manner?
A living network made of people. I was writing just yesterday, in private, that the network would face a path full of obstacles, this didn’t take long. It won’t kill us; it will make us stronger.
There’s a lot of selling across the subnets, but in the end, it will turn into many opportunities.
Sam, I thought you were one of the few great men,but in the end, you leave like a coward.
covenant@covenant_ai
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