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@WiseGoGlobal @9Sling @marcthiessen Your bias is glaring. You wont state that gerrymandering is bad. Its only bad if the other side does it.

@9Sling @marcthiessen If you want to start over or have a Constitutional Convention, do it. Maybe we need reform? Maybe we need 1 Rep/each county? But within the current system, ENFORCE the existing laws. “I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USA & TO THE REPUBLIC…” the laws of states/territories.

The people in that little circle are disenfranchising the people in the rest of that map.

@Linkers64 @stacycay @Apayauq1 You tripping down instead of just admitting you were wrong is quite expected.

@TrojanFever @stacycay @Apayauq1 x.com/i/status/20473…

this was during Obama

@Linkers64 @stacycay @Apayauq1 I'm not struggling to grasp anything. That pic was taken when Trump was in office. The OP said it was "during Obama" which is factually untrue and it even has a CN. Again... you can make a point without lying about when the pic was taken. Not sure why you're failing to understand

@TrojanFever @stacycay @Apayauq1 it means Obama was still responsible for the situation even if that photo was taken right after he left office. Bush was still responsible for the housing market, and Trump was still responsible for the Covid recession. I dont know what youre struggling to grasp

@TheDude5294 @nycweboy @JamesSurowiecki "Without evidence" theyre quoting people who said they felt it was retribution including people in the justice dept. Did you even read the article?

@nycweboy @JamesSurowiecki LOL. NYT publishes article quoting statement that investigation was part of death threat claim. Doesn’t dispute that but instead promotes the narrative, without evidence, that the investigation was retribution for bad coverage. “Journalism”

Quite remarkable. FBI spokesman accuses the New York Times of not including his quote in its article about FBI agents investigating a Times reporter for reporting on Kash Patel's girlfriend, even though the article includes the quote in full.

@greekcubfan1 @cubs524 @TheBlogfines Baseball reference has him at .229 with a .963 ops. The concerning part is 30ks in 81 plate appearances

@cubs524 @TheBlogfines Currently batting .216 at Iowa

Pedro Ramirez is making a leap. Crushing the ball (entered this with an average exit velocity of 92.3 and 46.3 hard-hit%). Up to 6 homers already, nearing career-high of 8. He was already a potential MLB-level hitter with his hit tool game, but adding power with that now too.

@Linkers64 @stacycay @Apayauq1 What does any of that have to do with when that picture was taken? Are you aware that you can make a point or convey a message without lying?

@TrojanFever @stacycay @Apayauq1 was Obama responsible for the housing market in 2009? was Biden responsible for egg and gas prices in 2021?

@Linkers64 @stacycay @Apayauq1 so telling the truth about when this occurred is playing a game?

@stacycay @Apayauq1 you really want to play the "erm, actually" game with this? ok, so when and why did the standing rock protests start?

@jdeitz72 @Brian_Chovanec @FrankLuntz dont you understand that a national ban includes Illinois and Mass? or are you too into your warped fantasy about a civil war to understand that

@Brian_Chovanec @FrankLuntz lol do what we want and if you don’t we will do more gerrymandering because Illinois and Massachusetts haven’t been gerrymandered for last 6 years. Clowns this will turn violent eventually

Former President Obama in July 2020: “For too long, gerrymandering has contributed to stalled progress and warped our representative government.” 👉🏻 x.com/BarackObama/st…

@SoupPSU @WashRick @AppalachianPoet @BigTomGamerMan @JoeCunninghamSC thats true. I just think people will get sick of it eventually. we had it good and people got bored and started feeding into the nonsense. eventually people will want to go back to not fighting all the time. social media certainly isnt helping either lol

@TrojanFever @WashRick @AppalachianPoet @BigTomGamerMan @JoeCunninghamSC I’m not so sure, the extreme voices have carved themselves a pretty substantial niche and it feels like every day there’s something new pushing people further one way or the other

If you’re mad about Virginia, support a national gerrymandering ban. If you’re not willing to take map-drawing away from politicians in every state, you’re not mad about gerrymandering. You’re mad your side lost this round.

@SoupPSU @WashRick @AppalachianPoet @BigTomGamerMan @JoeCunninghamSC there's a catalyst behind the divide. not saying all of us would get along thats a pipe dream but the extreme voices were a lot quieter before and will be again

@TrojanFever @WashRick @AppalachianPoet @BigTomGamerMan @JoeCunninghamSC You’re a lot more optimistic than I am lol I only see it getting worse

@SoupPSU @WashRick @AppalachianPoet @BigTomGamerMan @JoeCunninghamSC working together? nah. I'd bet as soon as trump leaves office and can't run again both sides will start working together again. It might take a bit but we're all a lot more close in ideals than we think we are.

@TrojanFever @WashRick @AppalachianPoet @BigTomGamerMan @JoeCunninghamSC Unfortunately I think that last part is a pipe dream lol

@SoupPSU @WashRick @AppalachianPoet @BigTomGamerMan @JoeCunninghamSC Ok, if thats accurate then fix the loopholes. They've had almost a year. Seems easy enough to work together to fix

@TrojanFever @WashRick @AppalachianPoet @BigTomGamerMan @JoeCunninghamSC The proposed creation of the independent parties who would draw them up allows for easy loopholes and could be very easily packed with either side, and as soon as it is they can get rid of whoever they want

@SoupPSU @AppalachianPoet @WashRick @BigTomGamerMan @JoeCunninghamSC Youre certainly entitled to your opinion but can you explain what in it makes you think that?

@TrojanFever @AppalachianPoet @WashRick @BigTomGamerMan @JoeCunninghamSC It was non partisan in name only it was never gonna pass lol

@SoupPSU @WashRick @AppalachianPoet @BigTomGamerMan @JoeCunninghamSC What was partisan about it?

@WashRick @TrojanFever @AppalachianPoet @BigTomGamerMan @JoeCunninghamSC It was never intended to pass lol it was non partisan in name only

@SoupPSU @AppalachianPoet @WashRick @BigTomGamerMan @JoeCunninghamSC Dems introduced a bill in September of last year to ban gerrymandering. Dems would fully support banning it. Most people in the country would fully support it

@TrojanFever @AppalachianPoet @WashRick @BigTomGamerMan @JoeCunninghamSC Yes but now the people of the Shenendoah valley are being represented by someone living in Arlington, which is closer to New Jersey than them. I’d love to get rid of gerrymandering but it’s not possible without both sides being unhappy which they’ll never allow

@AppalachianPoet @WashRick @SoupPSU @BigTomGamerMan @JoeCunninghamSC so you just "think" they're lying. that doesnt make it misleading. and again everyone understands what they mean when they say restore fairness. it is a biased phrasing but not misleading

@TrojanFever @WashRick @SoupPSU @BigTomGamerMan @JoeCunninghamSC Yeah, it is misleading. “Restore fairness” by disenfranchising half the state? That’s absurd! “Temporary measure, returning to the current districts after the 2030 census”? Also absurdly misleading, there’s no world where they give up this power unless forced to.

@AppalachianPoet @WashRick @SoupPSU @BigTomGamerMan @JoeCunninghamSC it was absolutely biased. not misleading

@WashRick @TrojanFever @SoupPSU @BigTomGamerMan @JoeCunninghamSC Yes, absolutely. But the biggest issue is the wording of the proposition itself, which directly violates state law requiring clear and non-biased descriptions of ballot proposals. This proposal was neither.

@SoupPSU @AppalachianPoet @WashRick @BigTomGamerMan @JoeCunninghamSC they're redrawing for federal elections not state elections. but again... ban gerrymandering. nobody likes it but one side won't allow the other side to do it without fighting back that would be stupid

@TrojanFever @AppalachianPoet @WashRick @BigTomGamerMan @JoeCunninghamSC I don’t give a shit about Texas and nc, and we can just go back and forth listing states that gerrymandered in each party’s favor. Virginia is a solidly purple state that just disenfranchised half of its citizens so that fairfax can rule half of the state, that is not “fairness”

@AppalachianPoet @SoupPSU @WashRick @BigTomGamerMan @JoeCunninghamSC are the billboards in the voting booth? they have nothing to do with what we're talking about.

@TrojanFever @SoupPSU @WashRick @BigTomGamerMan @JoeCunninghamSC It’s absolutely a trick question. And misleading is exactly the right word; I’ve seen dozens of billboards quoting Trump and encouraging people to “stop the rigged elections” by voting YES… which calls for blatantly rigged elections in the name of “fairness”.

@SoupPSU @AppalachianPoet @WashRick @BigTomGamerMan @JoeCunninghamSC how so? they're doing it because TX and NC redrew theirs. Republicans control the house, senate, presidency. Ban gerrymandering, dems would support it. Dems currently have a bill to ban it. If repubs dont like that one, work together to fix it.

@TrojanFever @AppalachianPoet @WashRick @BigTomGamerMan @JoeCunninghamSC I would say calling a 10-1 split “restoring fairness” is pretty misleading