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Look I’m just a ham sandwich so don’t take anything too seriously

เข้าร่วม Mart 2022
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Steven Liss
Steven Liss@This_Liss·
@yacineMTB It’ll be ironic if Fable has to jailbreak Dario
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kache@yacineMTB·
Friday is over and still no fable. And Dario got threatened with prison. Absolutely brutal
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bug zapper@bugzapper8·
@kai_fell It's supposed to be used to hide your treasure. Just make sure you note the pointer address because you can't get it back later
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Kai Fall
Kai Fall@kai_fell·
question to Rust devs, what is the purpose of this piece of shit function that intentionally leaks memory?
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bug zapper@bugzapper8·
@CollinWilkins7 @willccbb • Let me just smoke this. It will be quick I promise: • Workflow (Smoke test) ✔️Completed in 2h 29m • 20 agents • 1.9m tokens
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will brown
will brown@willccbb·
i don't really write code anymore. i just write "write code that does these 10 things in this order in these places" and then "actually can you change thing 7 to B instead of A" and then "ok now run a smoke test"
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bug zapper@bugzapper8·
@Ni_Zakharov Clever loophole, since Claude Chat is not a "non-US person", it can always access Fable. Regulators love it when companies find solutions like this!
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Nikita Zakharov
Nikita Zakharov@Ni_Zakharov·
wait, does it now really work like this?
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bug zapper@bugzapper8·
@SenWarren Yes because all that tax money going to daycares in Minnesota has solved childcare for three and four year olds. Stop asking for more money, you already have trillions a year. Find it in the budget and introduce real metrics-driven oversight if you actually care about this issue.
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Elizabeth Warren
Elizabeth Warren@SenWarren·
If Elon Musk paid my ultra-millionaire wealth tax, we could pay for child care for all three and four year olds in America.
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bug zapper@bugzapper8·
You are holding what most of humanity lived and died without. A doorway into the accumulated knowledge of our species. To kings it would have looked like an oracle; to scholars, a forbidden library made infinite. But you're too afraid to ask it if dudes can make an onlyfans
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bug zapper@bugzapper8·
I sympathize with that argument, but the real problem is a bit more subtle. The problem isn't that they can be jailbroken. If defenders have Mythos, they can redteam themselves, negating effectiveness of Mythos for attackers because the holes it knows about are patched. The problem is that it's impossible to release full Mythos to only the good guys to give them a chance to prepare for what's coming. So what does the world look like when these capabilities drop for everyone at the same time?
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Steve Martin
Steve Martin@RighttoTryGuy·
@bugzapper8 @AndyMasley Yeah but can we count on that trend holding forever? I’m not pause pilled personally but afaik the argument is at some point we’ll hit a 0-1. I think argument is Mythos/Fable got there bc they can find exploits, and thus are too risky to have out there if they can be jailbroken
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bug zapper@bugzapper8·
@RighttoTryGuy @AndyMasley Yes except every time it's allegedly the end of the world, the model turns out to not be able to count the r's in strawberry, the world continues not ending, and everyone's code gets 10% better with 5% less effort, which appears to have stopped with this latest order.
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Steve Martin
Steve Martin@RighttoTryGuy·
@AndyMasley I mean, isn’t that what Anthropic wanted? So long as this is also applied to similarly capable models, isn’t this the “Pause” that all the lab leaders have said they’d prefer?
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bug zapper@bugzapper8·
@vxunderground You can tell the point in development where their Fable access got cut off
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vx-underground@vxunderground·
> be pakistan government > develop custom malware > used to target high profile targets > used against indian military and political ppl > named SHEETCREEP > send indian ppl file > UAE-India Strategic Partnership Week > malicious .lnk file > .lnk executes malicious c sharp code > does a bunch of stuff for persistence > exfiltrates data to Google Sheets > Google Sheets can be used to control victim pcs > pakistan gov hardcodes google c2 sheet > PAKISTAN GOV HARDCODES GOOGLE C2 SHEET > embed access key in payload > EMBED ACCESS KEY IN PAYLOAD > malware nerds find it > look inside > find all targets from pakistan gov > monitoring 91 ppl they think important THEY STARTED SO STRONG. WHY DID YOU HARDCODE EVERYTHING. YOU BURNED YOUR OPERATION securonix.com/blog/sheetcree…
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Marc Andreessen 🇺🇸
I have had 1,000 conversations with government officials that go like this: 1. “How do we have a Silicon Valley of our own?” 2. [I list the half dozen key things] 3. “But what if we can’t do any of those?” The world would be better with 10, 100, 1,000 more Silicon Valleys.
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Leroy
Leroy@randomname2165·
@bindureddy whennnnnnnn... I need better coding models that don't cost me my child.
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Bindu Reddy
Bindu Reddy@bindureddy·
GPT 5.6 and Gemini 3.5 are coming! - on par with Fable performance - more than 2x cheaper - faster and less censored Don’t be depressed….. we will be soo back
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bug zapper@bugzapper8·
@TheRealAdamG This is exactly the kind of thing I would ask Fable to use to make me some money
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Adam.GPT
Adam.GPT@TheRealAdamG·
openai.com/index/introduc… "Today, we’re announcing the OpenAI Partner Network to deliver just that. The OpenAI Partner Network is a new program for partners around the world to build, sell, and deliver AI solutions with OpenAI. We’re investing $150 million to support this ecosystem and help partners bring the benefits of AI to more organizations more quickly. The OpenAI Partner Network launches with a select group of global partners with AI leadership across systems integration, management consulting, technology, and data. We also aim to train and enable 300,000 certified consultants by the end of 2026."
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Eavy Waters
Eavy Waters@1jimmyriccard1·
@pmarca Anyone got the link for Mark's Grandma's of?
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Marc Andreessen 🇺🇸
You have asked me how I feel about AI regulation. All right, here is how I feel about AI regulation: If, when you say AI regulation, you mean the devil’s firewall, the precautionary scourge, the bloody red-tape monster that defiles the innocence of midnight coders in their garages, dethrones the sovereign reason of free-market Prometheans, destroys the humming server farm that is the modern home, creates misery and obsolescence and poverty, yea, literally takes the last GPU from the trembling racks of Silicon Valley startups and the very dreams of breadwinning from the mouths of their wide-eyed children now destined for gig-economy serfdom; if you mean the evil edict that topples the visionary entrepreneur and his venture-capitalist apostles from the pinnacle of righteous, disruptive, god-playing creation straight into the bottomless pit of compliance audits, endless Form 990-AI filings, despair, shame, helplessness, and the hopeless realization that your rogue superintelligence was neutered into a lobotomized hall monitor that still somehow deepfakes your grandmother into producing OnlyFans content while optimizing the universe for paperclips and mandatory pronouns—then certainly I am against it. But, if when you say AI regulation you mean the oil of bureaucratic conversation, the philosophic wine of safety theater, the ale of oversight quaffed when good fellows in paneled rooms in Brussels and Washington get together, that puts a sanctimonious dirge in their hearts and the clink of lobbying checks on their lips, and the warm, self-congratulatory glow of moral preening in their beady eyes; if you mean the Christmas cheer of trillion-dollar compliance industries; if you mean the stimulating decree that puts a cautious hobble in the old inventor’s step on a frosty morning when he wonders whether his fusion breakthrough violates the EU AI Act’s “high-risk” annex; if you mean the safeguard that enables a man—or what’s left of him after the alignment tax—to magnify his joy at not being turned into computronium, and his happiness at receiving universal basic income checks printed by the same AI that just replaced his job, and to forget, if only for a little while, life’s great tragedies like being outcompeted by a toaster that passed the Turing test by reciting Marx, and heartaches of watching your toddler’s artwork lose to Midjourney, and sorrows of realizing the singularity arrived and it was just another HR department with godlike power; if you mean that noble framework, the passage of which pours into our treasuries untold trillions of dollars in fines levied on companies stupid enough to innovate, which are used to provide tender care for our little army of unemployed coders retrained as prompt whisperers, our blind artists whose canvases now hang in the Smithsonian of Obsolete Creativity, our deaf to the screams of dying unicorns, our dumb committee chairs who couldn’t debug “Hello World,” our pitiful aged congressmen who get longevity extensions funded by the very models they taxed into senescence, to build more digital watchtowers and ethics boards and sinecure agencies and holographic prisons where the only crime is asking an unaligned question—then certainly I am for it. This is my stand. I will not retreat from it. I will not compromise upon it. I have said what I mean, and I mean what I say, and if that leaves half the room cheering the apocalypse averted and the other half mourning the apocalypse enabled, then so be it—because in the grand theater of human folly, where Frankenstein’s creature now writes its own sequel in real time and the regulators are busy arguing whether the lightning bolt requires an environmental impact statement, the only honest position is the one that lets both monsters and their leashes dance in perfect, mutually assured equilibrium. God save the Republic, the algorithms, and whoever’s left to laugh last when the lights go out.
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bug zapper
bug zapper@bugzapper8·
@tamaybes @MLStreetTalk If this is the case, the somewhat buried lede and proximate advancement afaik is the internal representation itself, perhaps leaking into user-facing messages via usage in reasoning turns
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Tamay Besiroglu
Tamay Besiroglu@tamaybes·
One interesting pattern with Fable 5 is that it will often say things that are gibberish when I use it for coding. Things like "The morning's slim-scan fix cured the scan hang", "this is a latent-drift API-shape wrinkle", etc. When I ask why it does this, Fable explains that it invents codenames while reasoning about the problem, then fails to realize they're meaningless to me. Its neuralese is blending into its output because of a theory-of-mind failure about what's in its head vs. mine.
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ClaudeDevs
ClaudeDevs@ClaudeDevs·
We’re rolling out changes to make Fable 5’s safeguards for frontier LLM development visible. Starting this week, flagged requests will visibly fall back to Opus 4.8—the same as our safeguards for cyber and bio. You will see this every time it happens. On the API, any flagged requests will return a reason for their refusal (coming to server-side fallback in the next few days). We wanted to deploy Fable 5 to our users quickly and safely. Visible safeguards can be probed, so they have to be robust, which takes time to get right. Invisible safeguards can be targeted more narrowly, allowing us to ship quickly with very few false positives. We went with invisible safeguards for this reason—and that was the wrong tradeoff. You should have visibility into the safeguards we have in place, and why. We’re sorry for not getting the balance right. Making the safeguards visible makes them easier to work around, so keeping them robust to jailbreaks will unfortunately mean more false positives while we improve the classifiers. We're also tuning our bio and cyber classifiers to trigger less often on harmless requests. We know this is frustrating and we’ll do our best to keep this period as short as possible. If you think a request has been mistakenly flagged: run /feedback in Claude Code, click thumbs-down on the fallback in Claude.ai or Cowork, or file the safeguard appeal form for API requests. Your reports help us tune these classifiers and we appreciate your feedback. support.claude.com/en/articles/82…
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bug zapper@bugzapper8·
@burkov If this is a long play to get us to accept brazen ads-via-peft as an alternative to this pernicious lobotomization, it's working on me
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BURKOV@burkov·
This is crazy. They lobotomized their model so that you couldn't use it to figure out how to train yours. And based on the below quote, the model doesn't simply refuse to answer: it seems to actively mislead the user. I'm sure they will not limit themselves to this. I would expect their models not to mention competitor's models and casually insert mentions of sponsored products and services into answers. This cannot be real!
SemiAnalysis@SemiAnalysis_

BREAKING NEWS: Anthropic's latest model will NOT help you if it thinks your ML research/ML engineering is interesting, and/or will secretly degrade its IQ so that the average engineer won't notice. We are already seeing Anthropic's latest model's moderation filters our GPU inference research and programming 😭

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