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Primary Care Doctor. LDS Member.

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Xyathon
Xyathon@xyathon·
What do you think of the revised "For the Strength of Youth" pamphlet? Is vagueness a higher and holier way? And if so, does this principle apply to other commandments? Will kids choose not to get face tattoos, gauges, and nose rings? And do we have any grounds to even say it wrong at all if they do? And how will it further divide the Church? @WardRadioShow @jaredadairbell @Mormonger @GrayM0untain @ldsoperative @ldslaw @CwicShow @LukeFHan @ThoughtfulSaint @TheExMoCringe @UchtdorfDF @ChristoffDTodd @MaximusMoroni @cardonellis
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Latter-day Truth, J.D.
Latter-day Truth, J.D.@Latterdaytruth·
Fine I will finally bite. Here are my thoughts: “Supporting your wife is awesome. Good for Nate” Thank you for your attention to this matter!
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints@Ch_JesusChrist

“I grew up in Arizona, served a mission in Mexico, and went to college thinking I had a pretty clear path for my life. Then I met my now wife Victoria, and everything changed in the best way. “She always knew she wanted to be a doctor. Pediatric neurology isn’t an easy road, but it’s who she is, compassionate, steady, brilliant, and drawn to help kids and families through the hardest things life hands them. When she got into med school in California, we packed up and moved. “Stepping into her dream together was an easy choice. I wanted to support her the way she has always supported me. And honestly, watching her work and sacrifice and love people like she does has strengthened my faith more than anything else. “My path hasn’t been as clear. I’ve tried different directions, learned a lot, prayed a lot. Some days I still feel like I’m figuring it out. But I do know that God doesn’t measure timelines. He measures love, humility, and the way we show up for each other. “Supporting her doesn’t shrink my purpose—it expands it. Our callings from God can look different, and that’s beautiful. I’m building my future too, but I’m grateful that right now, part of my purpose is cheering for the person I love most as she steps into hers. “There’s not one 'right way' to build a family or a future. For us, this is ours. And it’s sacred.” — Nate

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Xyathon
Xyathon@xyathon·
@2cammac2 @LDSLaw Thank you. I’m honestly trying to learn. If you don’t feel like continuing, don’t feel obligated to reply. What specifically did Oaks say that you thought was reassuring? What are some thing’s progressive Mormons can do in their wards to advocate for this issue?
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YFansForEquality
YFansForEquality@2cammac2·
@xyathon @LDSLaw Good question, I see some positive steps forward at times, but also steps back. Oaks talk at conf as an example of a more loving approach to public policy. I’m just trying to be a positive influence, wearing rainbow gear and having conversations.
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LDSLawyer
LDSLawyer@LDSLaw·
An LDS 𝕏 post. Over the past few years, I keep encountering a repetitive refrain from many fellow members of the Church. Many of you have a deep, abiding concern that can probably be summarized this way: The Church is slowly being eaten by a cancerous element of niceness/tolerance/progressive messaging. Doctrines are being softly effaced. Prior teachings are being abandoned. The Church is embracing a kind of globalist, liberal ethos and is soft-pedaling any and all of the former "line in the sand" teachings of the recent past. The prophets/apostles are not teaching clear doctrines because many of their messages can be ambiguous or interpreted in conflicting ways. Because of this, it won't be long before the Church has totally drifted off course and becomes no different than any of the other church in the world that have embraced progressive value systems. Gay marriage sealings are just around the corner. Does that accurately reflect the feelings that many of you folks have?
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Xyathon
Xyathon@xyathon·
@2cammac2 @LDSLaw Do you believe the Church will eventually allow gay temple sealings? And if so what are you or other progressives doing to help hasten that along or influence the Church? Have there been any reassuring signals from General Conference, leaders, or policies that show progress?
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YFansForEquality
YFansForEquality@2cammac2·
@xyathon @LDSLaw Yes, I would love to see all those things. I imagine a future where all of God’s children are appreciated, loved, and celebrated for how they were created. Honestly I do know quite a few active members who agree with me as I participate in a lot of LGBTQ friendly groups.
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Xyathon@xyathon·
@2cammac2 @LDSLaw So if you had it your way, we’d have gay marriage in temples, biological trans females as bishops and general authorities, and trans ideology taught in primary? How many active LDS people do you personally know who feel the exact same way?
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Xyathon
Xyathon@xyathon·
@2cammac2 @LDSLaw Is eternal marriage being only between men & women discrimination? Is it discrimination to not give transgender females the priesthood? Is it discrimination to not give trans people temple recommends? Is it discrimination to ban teachers from teaching trans messaging in primary?
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YFansForEquality
YFansForEquality@2cammac2·
@xyathon @LDSLaw I don’t believe discrimination against LGBTQ people is a fundamental doctrine. Loving and serving others is fundamental to the gospel I believe in.
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Xyathon
Xyathon@xyathon·
@CerebralCereal0 @fwaygotay @LDSLaw So when LDS people see gay couples taking the sacrament at the approval of the stake president, is that a too much faith in the teachings of the prophets conservative problem? More people leave the Church because of they are too conservative than because they are too left?
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Celestial Machines - Ezekiel's Wheel of Wonder
Celestial Machines - Ezekiel's Wheel of Wonder@CerebralCereal0·
I have to dig up the whole thing, but it boils down to 2nd guessing the brethren and they drive themselves out of the church for murmuring. "The church is becoming soft. they arent punishing people for percieved wrongs. I know better. They are in apostasy. The brethren are wrong. Actually we used to believe this and because we stopped practicing it a certain way we have fallen." It isnt necessarily the ideals professed, but that people mistakenly attach religiousity with conservatism or their idea of it. When the church breaks with it, it breaks them. We know the hard leftist godless apostasy. Its the devil we know. We are learning the hard right apostasy as we speak. Its the devil we dont. A wise man on here said you can fall off the left or right side.
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Xyathon
Xyathon@xyathon·
@2cammac2 @LDSLaw I guess the concern that there is a large faction of LDS progressives that don’t believe the fundamental doctrines is overblown?
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Xyathon
Xyathon@xyathon·
@Dmtaylor125 @LargeInStature_ Expound please? Do progressive LDS members (who promote LDS gay marriage, trans ideology, & unlimited abortion) exist in the Church? If they do, are the brethren clear in this identifying that and dissolving it? Or are they trying to vaguely navigate that so as to not offend?
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SWOLE Nephi 💪🏻
SWOLE Nephi 💪🏻@LargeInStature_·
This image is destined to become an ultra niche Latter-day Saint meme.
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Porter Fishburn
Porter Fishburn@sophron262·
@xyathon @michcooley You’ve made your points and I’ve made mine. When the conversation starts going in circles it’s time to end it and let any reader who has made it this far decide for himself.
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Porter Fishburn
Porter Fishburn@sophron262·
This story is a wonderful representation of what God thinks masculinity should look like. Most of the outrage comes from misunderstanding what the post is saying. Nate’s statement makes it very clear that he’s trying to figure his own side of it out, but in the meantime what he knows he can do is support his wife. That’s exactly what divine masculinity looks like. Finding a way to be useful and serve his family despite whatever circumstances prevent him from fitting the traditional mold. Hats off, the guy is a champ for rolling up his sleeves instead of giving up. And the ones hating on this are probably either way too caught up in the worldly view of traditional masculinity, or they are coping with their own inadequacies. Probably both.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints@Ch_JesusChrist

“I grew up in Arizona, served a mission in Mexico, and went to college thinking I had a pretty clear path for my life. Then I met my now wife Victoria, and everything changed in the best way. “She always knew she wanted to be a doctor. Pediatric neurology isn’t an easy road, but it’s who she is, compassionate, steady, brilliant, and drawn to help kids and families through the hardest things life hands them. When she got into med school in California, we packed up and moved. “Stepping into her dream together was an easy choice. I wanted to support her the way she has always supported me. And honestly, watching her work and sacrifice and love people like she does has strengthened my faith more than anything else. “My path hasn’t been as clear. I’ve tried different directions, learned a lot, prayed a lot. Some days I still feel like I’m figuring it out. But I do know that God doesn’t measure timelines. He measures love, humility, and the way we show up for each other. “Supporting her doesn’t shrink my purpose—it expands it. Our callings from God can look different, and that’s beautiful. I’m building my future too, but I’m grateful that right now, part of my purpose is cheering for the person I love most as she steps into hers. “There’s not one 'right way' to build a family or a future. For us, this is ours. And it’s sacred.” — Nate

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Xyathon
Xyathon@xyathon·
@sophron262 @michcooley This makes sense if you feel putting career ahead of family is a necessary circumstance on par with disability and death… but this ignores the very societal trend that the document was trying to correct; namely women putting career pursuits ahead of family.
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Xyathon@xyathon·
@sophron262 @michcooley Not a category. A document, with many proscriptive statements. None of them are “or” statements. They are “and” statements.
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Porter Fishburn
Porter Fishburn@sophron262·
There’s no one right way. There is a category of right ways.
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Xyathon
Xyathon@xyathon·
@sophron262 @michcooley Are you pointing to a right way? I was reliably informed that there is no right way?
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Xyathon
Xyathon@xyathon·
@kissames @Ch_JesusChrist Provide literally means “provide the necessities of life.” That isn’t a hug. The other components of the document aren’t less important. They aren’t “or” statements, they are “and” statements. We can’t excel at one component so well that we are unobligated to the rest.
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Kristi Rabe
Kristi Rabe@kissames·
@xyathon @Ch_JesusChrist I am asking specifically about the Family Proclamation. What about these quotes? Are they less important?
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The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints@Ch_JesusChrist·
Relief Society General President Camille N. Johnson taught a Utah audience about the importance of being kind on Friday, April 10, 2026.   “Our kind acts, one a day over a lifetime, are vital to the well-being of our families, community and nation,” President Johnson told more than 150 educators, business, government and religious leaders during the 2026 Kindness Summit at Rice-Eccles Stadium at the University of Utah in Salt Lake City, Utah.   Learn more about her remarks on Newsroom. newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/presid…
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Chris Enger
Chris Enger@fwaygotay·
@LDSLaw Talking to my stake president he said a lot of the apostasy in the stake is coming from the right.
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Xyathon
Xyathon@xyathon·
@2cammac2 @LDSLaw Cool. So you’ll be psyched when they start allowing gay temple sealings?
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YFansForEquality
YFansForEquality@2cammac2·
@LDSLaw I’m a formerly orthodox member and now a very unorthodox member. My views started to change as I studied history. The church has always been changing and evolving, no doctrines are set in stone, and prophets are humans with massive flaws. Loving others is what matters most to me.
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Xyathon@xyathon·
@sophron262 @michcooley Now you are reading your own interpretation into it. What have I said that is unfactual? It’s the official Church account. It states: “There’s not one 'right way' to build a family or a future.” That statement contradicts doctrine. Confront that.
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Porter Fishburn
Porter Fishburn@sophron262·
Everything you’re upset about is what you’ve read into it. That’s on you. Not having grace or room for people with different circumstances IS a direct contradiction of the gospel. And you also paint a broad-strokes inaccurate picture of what the job market in her field actually looks like to make your point, resting on the authority your position lends you. But everything you’re saying can be fact-checked. She has a lot of options, and because of her so does he. It’s a mutually beneficial arrangement, borne from counseling together, and their story could have given strength to those in similar situations before the fragile minded outrage mob came in and destroyed the potential of that with ridicule and indignation.
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