this is crazy how did google get so much better?

@IterIntellectus demis is actually in the lab cooking, sam altman spends 90% of his time scheming up funds and restructuring the company and trying to fuck people over it's tortoise and the hare

@IterIntellectus wait this could be free money if grok 3.5 mogs gemini

@IterIntellectus they've been doing real machine learning since alpha go. people have only been obsessed with language modality for like 2 years. language is only a small part of the world

@IterIntellectus I mean, Google invented the transformer model so it never made sense they would allow themselves to fall far behind the likes of OpenAI.. especially as while ChatGPT 3 was making early waves, Google announced their AI had cracked protein folding and open sourced it globally.

@IterIntellectus Maybe, google is betting on itself 🤣

@IterIntellectus Google is growing faster than the competition, but Gemini is still not a household-name like OpenAI ChatGPT. Reasons for success: 1. Access to lots of internal data & compute power. 2. Listens to devs & customers & fast fixes. 3. AI studio = free 3. DeepMind has top talent.

@IterIntellectus Data & unlimited money + talent

@IterIntellectus The question is flawed. It really depends on the use case

@IterIntellectus member how deepseek was ganna flip the script

@IterIntellectus well, it turns out almost all the computer scientific principals at Google are correct. it sort of nets out to better, faster, safer & more intelligent systems

@IterIntellectus Fear

@IterIntellectus Ya but do you remember how bad googles was in image gen?

@IterIntellectus lol future L

@IterIntellectus Because it has the most to lose.

@IterIntellectus YouTube, Gmail, Search, Calendar… I mean with all that data if they don’t win this they deserve to die.

@IterIntellectus ChatGPT woke them up to get off the Hooli rooftop

@IterIntellectus the legacy companies outperforming openai and anthropic gives me hope that apple can catch up and siri won’t be ass for much longer

@IterIntellectus Honestly shouldn’t surprise us that Google has the best AI model

@IterIntellectus They have always been. Question is: why did it take them this long to ship? 🤔

@IterIntellectus Data

they have a huge competitive advantage from all the data of basically being the internet for the last 20 years. Interestingly enough, they actually had their LLM developed in the late 2010's but didn't release it as they were concerned about the safety implications. Sam Altman and OpenAI then came along and released ChatGPT which forced their hands to play the AI game. The race is basically can OpenAI maintain their lead from being the first mover in the space, or with Google's extensive data can they take over and be number 1.

@IterIntellectus This seems absurd. Google and OpenAI seem level pegging, with xAI far behind.

@IterIntellectus But but google is a dying business they say 💀

@IterIntellectus Anthropic not even on the list ☠️

@IterIntellectus virtually unlimited resources and access to data ?

@IterIntellectus Computation infrastructure

@IterIntellectus Google literally invented LLMs and most concepts ChatGPT was built on.

@IterIntellectus better data

@IterIntellectus Will be interesting to see what they do with the next Grok update though

@IterIntellectus I heard a rumor they fixed a bug in the training stack and suddenly things work now lol

@IterIntellectus If this is true, the perception vs reality gap so real

@IterIntellectus Bro it's Google, They invented the transformer. They can scale the infra better then any other big player because of their TPUs. There models are cheaper and faster to run, and probably also train because of their infra

@IterIntellectus they’ve always been incredible at engineering. existential threat is finally squeezing them to ship.

@IterIntellectus Logan