@reuket @StefanMolyneux I’m not bothered by her skin color except Troy was in Anatolia not Africa. If she’s such a minor character, so irrelevant, so fictional, why include her at all? She’s no more important to the story than a cyclops.
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@DougBright1 @StefanMolyneux And in the story they meet cyclops, sirens, giants, charybde and Scylla and many more and the thing that bothers you is her skin color…
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Any Westerner who watches this abomination is a traitor to his culture, ancestors and history.
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Christopher Nolan says Lupita Nyong'o was his first choice to play Helen of Troy in The Odyssey (2026) because the role needed “strength and poise” as much as beauty. “And Lupita makes it look effortless.” “I was absolutely desperate for her to do the part.”
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@reuket @StefanMolyneux So if she’s such a bit part, not real, plays no real significance in the war itself, why cast her at all?
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@DougBright1 @StefanMolyneux Helen of Troy is most likely a mythological figure, not a historically proven person. Ancient sources about her all come from Greek mythological traditions written centuries after the supposed Trojan War. Troy itself may have been real, but Helen remains legendary.
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@philgreen @StefanMolyneux Was Troy real? Yes. Was the Trojan war real? Yes. Achilles, Ajax, the King of Sparta, King of Troy, Paris, Hector, et al all real. But Helen was not? Then why cast her? Leave her out entirely since she had no role.
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@DougBright1 @StefanMolyneux Helen of Troy is not a historical figure.
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@harmlesstree2 @StefanMolyneux Troy was real. The Trojan war was real. The participants were real. But you say Helen was not? Sounds like a goof, you goof.
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@DougBright1 @StefanMolyneux Helen of Troy is not real you goof
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So you prefer the passive Helen who was passed around by three men like a piece of used furniture, stood on the walls of Troy fixing her makeup, wringing her hands and clutching her pearls because she thought she was so superficially pretty that a war was started over her (not true) and then she went home as a trophy wife not really taking part in anything? Got it. How boring. A significantly diminished role. Bit part. Been done. Now who is the misogynist? I like my version better.
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@DougBright1 @GraceOM63384867 @StefanMolyneux “Mission accomplished” lolol. Also, women were not generally raped and killed. They were enslaved for life and also raped. Neoptolomus took Andromache, Odysseus took Hecuba, and Agamemnon took Casandra. Helen was taken by the man who already owned her.
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@reuket @StefanMolyneux How do know? Troy was real. The Trojan war was real. The participants were real Men. Why couldn’t there have been a Helen?
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@jeffis48 @JonathanTurley I dunno. Indiana, Ohio State, Michigan. The last three National Championships came from the Big 10.
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@DougBright1 @JonathanTurley Something has to be done to help the Big 10. This was the best we could come up with.
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Politicians often ask others to make sacrifices that would benefit them, but this was truly the Super Bowl of self-serving political pitches. Some of these young athletes would give up their hopes for an NFL career to fight for racial gerrymandering. jonathanturley.org/2026/05/25/thi…
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She was a double agent employed by the King of Sparta to betray the city from within. Perfect because she herself was Anatolian. The “Trojan horse” if you will. In this she was only partially successful, she certainly disrupted the royal court, when Paris was killed she immediately married his brother then hid his sword. Defenseless, he’s killed in the final assault, she’s “reconciled” to the king of Sparta and they rule together. Mission accomplished.
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@DougBright1 yes...all good....all good...her casting matters...her look matters, it was her looks that caused a lot of problems...she's a massive main character
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she was all about correct representation when it was wakanda though
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Lupita Nyong'o responds to criticism over being cast to play ‘Helen of Troy’ in ‘The Odyssey.’ “Our cast is representative of the world.” The actress has said the cast, which also includes transgender actress Elliot Page, is “representative” of the world. “I'm not spending my time thinking of a defence. The criticism will exist whether I engage with it or not.” Source: Elle
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Well, as you’ve exemplified, most people can no longer think in parables so they assign silly romantic drivel to history. A City under siege in ancient times could only be taken in two ways: a direct bloody assault or betrayal by the inside. The Greeks did both. Helen was the betrayer. Notice she was carefully spared in the final assault. Women were generally raped and killed. This was the price of not surrendering. Helen was not. She “reconciled” with the King of Sparta and they returned to their positions of King and Queen. Mission accomplished. You read it without understanding it.
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@DougBright1 @GraceOM63384867 @StefanMolyneux I’ve read it. You just described the events of the story, not the way the writer portrays the morality of the characters. Learn to read a book, not just the plot synopsis on Wikipedia or ai or whatever. Your take is so juvenile. lol talking about villains in Homer
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@FoxNews An endorsement by a comrade who served with Platner would mean much more than one by the old grifter Sanders. So far, no luck.
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United States Senate candidate Graham Platner launched a blistering attack on the political establishment alongside Senator Bernie Sanders during the first stop of their "Fighting Oligarchy" tour.
Platner took aim at long-serving politicians, specifically calling out Senator Susan Collins and declared that the current system exists solely to enrich elected officials while leaving everyday Americans behind.
"We will not just fight the oligarchy, we will defeat the oligarchy and the political system that it maintains. We will defeat the political system that it maintains.”
“The politics of Susan Collins, a politics that turns politicians into millionaires but tells you to be grateful for crumbs. It is a lie. It is a lie intended to serve the billionaire class."
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@DefiantLs The working class was shafted by democrats who abandoned the working class long long ago.
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“Why do you think Democrats lost so badly in 2024?”
Ro Khanna: “We lost because we weren’t willing to say that the working class was shafted.”
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@C_3C_3 It’s all a grift. Still waiting for a comrade that served with Platner to come forward as a character witness. So far, no luck.
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She commits adultery, runs off with her lover and when caught can go back to her husband, king Menelaus of Sparta to avert a war but doesn’t. Menelaus uses her as a pawn, a human Trojan horse if you will, as his excuse to begin his war of conquest. When the naive Paris is killed in battle she marries his brother Deiphobus, hides his sword during the assault on Troy and defenseless, he’s killed by King Menelaus who she returns to Sparta with and they continue to rule Sparta. A duplicitous double agent. You need to read it the first time.
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@DougBright1 @GraceOM63384867 @StefanMolyneux Ok you also need to read Homer again. Helen is a sympathetic character in her own right in both Homeric epics. Calling her a villain is kinda silly. It’s like calling calypso a villain. Like it doesn’t even make sense and it’s just a holdover from Victorian era misogony.
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@EveKeneinan The distinction is that it’s a work of western literature. I thought cultural appropriation was wrong?
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I think people are confused about the Iliad and the Odyssey.
Two things can be true at once.
• They are fundamentally Greek works.
• They are works of such greatness that they belong to all of humanity as our common property
People seem to think that the second point authorizes them to mistreat those works.
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@tonywendice1954 Helen of Troy was Anatolian not African. It’s Hollywood doing blackface again.
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She's a wonderful actress who I have long admired. But I'm not all that impressed by a 3/4 naked woman dancing around on a street. Sorry. And that's not racist. I'd say the exact same thing if she were purple or beige.
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Lupita Nyong'o while racists argue about her role as Helen of Troy in the 'Odyssey' 🔥😍:
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@GraceOM63384867 @mutt_fox @StefanMolyneux Helen of Troy is the villain. She commits adultery runs off with her lover and allows a war to take place on her behalf.
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@mutt_fox @DougBright1 @StefanMolyneux I do and I see his point. He's using the actress to make a point culturally or to check boxes for awards- either way- it's rude to the culture you are trashing and to her because now she is used to bear the brunt of hate for his movie to get attention.
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@mutt_fox @GraceOM63384867 @StefanMolyneux It’s not? Taking a white historical figure and making her black? Hmmm. Helen of Troy was Anatolian not African.
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@GraceOM63384867 @DougBright1 @StefanMolyneux Yeah. That’s not what blackface is. Thankyou for playing.
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As I keep saying, AI tech bros are the absolute worst possible messengers for AI.
You want to start a popular uprising to stop your AI infrastructure? Keep telling people you’re going to take their jobs so they can live off government UBI.
Disclose.tv@disclosetv
NOW - Anthropic co-founder says there is a "real possibility that AI will displace human labor at a very large scale," and that supporting those people "will be a moral imperative of historic proportions."
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