Raghu Bhaskaran - The Mongoose of Mahabharata

@Hiranyareta Ekachakrapura, Islam being Bakasura. That is still happening. Constant accomodation have to be done not to provoke the Bakasura.

Jadunath Sarkar on the debilitating effect of Muslim rule on the Hindus: "When a class of men is publicly depressed and harassed by law and executive caprice alike, it merely contents itself with dragging on an animal existence. With every generous instinct of the soul crushed out of them, with intellectual culture merely adding a keen edge to their sense of humiliation, the Hindus could not be expected to produce the utmost of which they were capable; their lot was to be hewers of wood and drawers of water to their masters, to bring grist to the fiscal mill, to develop a low cunning and flattery as the only means of saving what they could out of the fruits of their own labour. Amidst such social conditions, the human hand and the human mind cannot achieve their best; the human soul cannot soar to its highest pitch. The barrenness of the Hindu intellect and the meanness of spirit of the Hindu upper classes are the greatest condemnation of Muhammadan rule in India. The Islamic political tree, judged by its fruit, was an utter failure." In short, the top priority for Hindus under Islamic rule became survival, rather than the pursuit of knowledge-mathematical or otherwise.

@dagalti @poovannan_g @halleyji @sridharkswamy EVRites were smart to declare pretty much all castes as BC/OBC - TN has the highest %, irrespective of their actual wealth/status, inventing a B-NB paradigm. Other states were not the manipulated, held on to their own identities, than lumped a NBs against 1 common villain B

@poovannan_g @halleyji @sridharkswamy For the nth time I I understand all rhat My question is, why do other feudals behave themselves whereas tamil feudals alone have a prickly impertinence?

It is bit unfortunate that pro-Dharma people in Tamilnadu and others who care for Tamilnadu let this Dravidoid nonsense fester for so many decades now. More than a century depending on when you start counting for this borderline secessionist Tamizh exceptionalism nonsense.

@dagalti @halleyji NB movement hijacked many things. UVS Iyer, Adheenam's Tamil was tied to Shaivam . - yet the Tamil that was dismissed by EVR, was weaponized by EVRites to capture power. Tamil literary tradition split from Tamil language politics.

@halleyji The rise of NB movement coincided with Tamils discovering the Sangam corpus. Till 1900 nobody knew how to date what works and how. Now suddenly you had a whole glut of works that could clearly had some exclusively native elements. However, instead of subjecting them to

@decidedpenalty7 @labstamil LoL, suddenly the historian is talking about "emotions" And just God, isn't Devotion a sublime emotion? So you are proving yourself as neither a neutral historian nor bhakthan, but just another biased parochialist 90% of Tamil literature is devotional. No emotion without it.

@RaghuBhaskaran @labstamil There is are similarities and a lot of differences in the same tamil literature. And mentioned Murugan born in the mountains which had blooming kurinji flowers? Himalayas have kurinji flowers? Murugar in north is just a god , for tamils he is everything he is our emotion

Nakkeerar. Avvaiyaar. Kachiyappa Shivacharyar. Arunagirinadhar. Siddhar Bogar. Pamban Swamigal. Devaraya Swamigal. Kirubandha Vaariyar. So you're telling me that all these saints, mystics and devout poets over a period of 20 centuries missed the real identity of Murugan and it finally took a Seeman, Arivumathi and Paarisalan to see the truth about Murugar? Huh? If you had a single Muruga Bhakti cell functioning in your body, you wouldn't be desacralizing a God who's so dear to our land just for your petty politics.

@decidedpenalty7 @labstamil Oh I don't claim Bhakthi literature should be objective. As to Urais, they like history, carry the authors own biases Most Gods were worshipped via multiple methods in parallel. Ofc some fade, some get popular, it is not some "conspiracy", but simply trends of time

@RaghuBhaskaran @labstamil Most of the “urai”for these literatures can be very subjective, except for bakthi literature which is ofc objective, for eg the same thirumurugatrupadai says about veriyaddal and balikuduthal for murugan which isnt in practice today , how come suddenly he turned to vegetarianism?

@labstamil Yes, that's my point We need an AP Nagarajan for this period, those values, but updated artistic sensibilities

@RaghuBhaskaran Majority has no time to read sir, so back in Tamil cinema, we used to make films like this. Nothing stops them from rebooting such films with bigger budgets but Kollywood became Dravidawood propaganda machinery, so can't expect.

@DravidaBaby20 LoL, until Pallavas & Cholas - who Dravidiots dismiss as Aryan Slaves, temples were simple affairs, it is they who elevated to grander structures. Still the admin was still held by autonomous local Sabhas- Uttiramerur proof Dravidiots know nothing of Tamil will blame Sanskrit🤡

Tamils temples are primarily places of Administration than religious as the Sanghis normally portray for their politics.Gods are philosophical Symbols of running the administration. All Temples of Tamil Gods, that are spread across entire landscapes of India or SE Asia etc, are to be seen as Places administered by Tamils (maybe later occupied by migrants, subject to sanskritisation). Mere Sanskritisation does not mean transfer of history to Migrators. The same applies to the Murugan discussion too. Administratively this whole land was of Ancient Tamils. If putsiders adapted to Tamils Gods or given names does not make them the owners of that tradition. As a mark of respect they can show devotion to our Gods. No problem. @salamandra12 @King_of_Orion @breeze2583 @krishnan9 @worldwidetamilz

@TheGopalan @KrishnanVelur There are actual religions which have "tension" against others are their fundamental dogma, don't need any "creation" Naive ARSEs (All Religions Same & Equal) will render targeted Hindus vulnerable, while they preach pusillanmity as peace & amity

@RaghuBhaskaran @KrishnanVelur Yes, there are many AHs who are waiting to create communal tension between religions and divide the society. They won't understand this!

What happened to this man. Overnight became an anti Hindu?!

@tskrishnan Their idea is very clear -dismiss any evidence against their preconceived agenda. DK God hater is greater than Saint Arunagirinathar, Divine poet Nakeerar knows nothing about Murugan compared to Movie director, Great temple builder Kings are nothing to movie stars Dravidiotism

Kanchi Kailasanathar temple inscription of Rajasimha Pallava says “like Subrahmanya took birth from the supreme lord (Siva), the destroyer of the warlike (demon) Pura, from the supreme lord Ugradanda, the destroyer of the city of Ranarasika, there took birth a very pious prince (subrahmanyah kumarah), the illustrious Atyantakama, the chief of the Pallava” Those who say that the name Subrahmanya is not prevalent in Tamil Nadu, have no idea about the history of Tamilakam

@kirunage13 LoL, their tribalism couldn't light a lamp for their deity against Muslim demands, so they cope flexing against a movie & utterly ignore of Tamil devotional literature. You think that pathetic idiocy is a model, that's worse

The level of clarity Tamils have about their culture, nativity & Gods is outstanding. That's why their tribalism wins. In TN no one will oppose this movie except some BJP ppl. Karnataka & Kannadigas are far behind.

@YGMadhuvanthi I don't respect other religions, only respect the right to believe in any religion, however stupid. There are Religions which explicitly preach hatred against mine, I have no respect for them Islam wld kill Bibi Naachiyar-APJ as murtads, Perumal is showing they shld be rescued

I’m a hindu at home and outside home !!! That doesn’t mean I don’t respect other religions !!!! Social service can be done without drama !!!! Srirangam Temple has Bibi Naachiyar Shrine inside !!!! Perumal is Perumal Bibi is Bibi !!! They coexist beautifully and we pray to both of them !!!! That’s being secular !!!! Not dialogue delivery in public places !!!!

@TheGopalan @KrishnanVelur LoL, as usual only idiot Hindus will fall for that preaching.

@KrishnanVelur I don't think he said only about Hinduism. If I heard him right, he said all of us should keep our respective religion inside our house - applies to all religions! IMO it is a good thought!

@tamilan_04 The Divine does not have any identity correct. But the society - that is BS, right from the earliest literature available, distinct groups (which later called castes), were always identified. Caste-less Utopia is like Lemuria.

Tamils had no caste divisions in their early society. Caste distinctions slowly entered Tamil culture through the influence of Sanatana Dharma. Therefore, Murugan, Valli, and Deivanai have no caste identity, they are our ancestors and cultural symbols, not figures to be viewed through a caste lens.

@Samamiri1122067 Most Bollywood songs were in Urbu, bcoz most Bollywoodias were Dawoodiyyas, sucking up to Secularism & Biriyani Baichara, funded by underworld gangs. As those days end, that nonsense is gone.

Urdu is more beautiful than Hindi that’s why majority of Bollywood songs are in Urdu ..Urdu is just MashaAllah

@Sai_swaroopa @Wolvebean @nagashwin7 Correct, Krishna was a like coach (as well as the coachman), sometimes he would praise Arjuna, sometimes scold, sometimes compare & praise the opponent -all to motivate. But results are obvious, Arjuna always prevailed over Karna- best example is after Draupadi's Viryasulka,

Krishna's words in the war are very contextual. He has even greater words for Shalya in the next Parva. And Satyaki is said to be a combo of Krjshna and Arjuna. In this scene, he had to defend deploying Ghatotkacha as a shield to stall Karna. Karna possessed the indomitable Shakti. But for a strange reason, he was a no show on Day 11, tepid warrior on day 12, got beaten by Abhimanyu multiple times on day 13 and on day 14, when he could have made the difference by using it on Arjuna before the latter could get to Jayadrata, he mysteriously did not. Only on the night of day 14, Krishna did not want a face off with Karna after the stellar day where Arjuna single handedly broke 3 vyuhas, defeated multiple Maharathis multiple times over and also had to fight all his way back. Ghatotkacha proved a great shield but his death right on the night next to Abhimanyu's death would have been gut wrenching. Why did Karnana not use Shakti against Arjuna for four whole days? The logical answer is that he wanted to do so in his high moment than use it when his side genuinely needed it. Poor Duryodhana's Karma is that he was stuck with a d was heavily dependent on egoistic commanders, each with their own agenda.

Karna-Arjuna debate is back 😊. Trying to put a contextual perspective here. Kalki film deserves a genuine appreciation at a larger level. Why? For the sheer scaled up attempt to bring the ancient past and distant future together in a civilisational spectrum. Larger positive aspects 1) Kashi is the only Urban Centre that survives 2) Ganga was the last river to dry up 3) Unhinged technological development and tech in the wrong hands only caused more and more disparity as civilisation descended to chaos and more until finally the Avatar that ends it all is conceived Finer aesthetic aspects 1) Bhagavad Gita rated as the best motivational song (Ghantasala Gari version makes it all the more endearing) by BUJJI 2) In the same scene - an unassailable hologram as a visual tribute to Atman Both were an underlying message that technology can be civilisationally compatible in the right hands. I kind of found that techno chilaka josyam scene cute as well. I am sure there are quite other bits and pieces that resonated. Now coming to the debate raging since morning. I wish Telugu Cinema grows out of Karna obsession. In his defense, @nagashwin7 wasn't the first to take this route. He wont be the last. Now even in that route, do appreciate the larger fact in Nag Ashwin gari world that Arjuna attained Swarga while Karna had to take birth to find his redemption. Arjuna did not need to. Now the scene of the villain getting Gandiva at the end might have raised brows incl mine. I hope the part 2 of this film has answers. But here I choose to appreciate the larger theme and intent of the film which is first of its kind to cast Itihaasik world in a futuristic set up. It is the start of a great creative era and @nagashwin7 is a trail blazer. We can hope that more and more enthusiastic artists enter this new sub genre and weave great stories that connect past and future. That said, in the real Itihasa consciousness, the power of Arjuna is unbeaten though. Krishna is not his safe haven but his greatest flex that he earned. While Krishna was his visible anchor, Rudra was his unseen guide even against Rudra's own Amsha that was Ashvatthama. BTW @nagashwin7 garu, in the same tramslation of Dr.Debroy, you might have found that Ashvatthama intervenes thrice to save Karna's life while I dont remember Karna returning the favour. But I do understand creative liberty 😊. Wishing the best for the second part of this duet.

@p0daran Why should every god have a thinai.. that is so weird. then ask why Muruga wasn't the god of Marutham.. irrelevant distractions.

Yes but why wasn't Rudra/ Shiva any of the 5 Thinai Gods?

@p0daran You are completely out of synch with the debates going on & driving in your own lane. The Dravidiots are rejecting literature which identify Murugan with Skandan, son of Shiva etc., I am wasting time if I have to catch you with the context. Will disengage. Bye

@RaghuBhaskaran //Foolish to reject// Reject what?

(likely) Mortals who achieved divine/ semi-divine status - Rama - Jesus - Mohammed - Buddha - Avvaiyar - Gilgamesh - Imhotep - Hercules - Kannagi

@ashchelse @saranstm That is like saying Govt. Quarters given to employees are not govt. property. That is what our MLAs/MPs do - never vacate even when their terms are done.

@saranstm Inam lands aren’t temple lands, first educate yourselves properly , don’t mislead public under the name of religion.

The 3,084-acre Karur temple land order is just the tip of the iceberg. The real issue involves a staggering 13 lakh acres of temple inam lands across Tamil Nadu. By applying the same order statewide, the TVK government can effectively release 13 lakh (1 3 million) acres from the HR&CE block to regularize occupants.This is the biggest disadvantage anyone could deal to our heritage. Handing over sacred, multi-crore endowments means temples could end up owning absolutely nothing in the near future.

@p0daran So selective reading & selective weightage is just bad both in terms of academic research & toxic when used in politics/sociology. Hindu Dharma is not a Dogma limited to 1 Book, the vedas are the seeds, from them entire forests in multiple languages have grown. Foolish to reject

@p0daran Who decided that only the oldest known literature shld be considered? Tholkappiyam is a book of grammar, which makes passing mention of 5 Thinai Gods. It doesn't go in detail as a religious literature wld It doesn't mention Kottravai as the mother of Seyyon either. So