Citizen Andy

@stackerco Stacker you’re so interesting. After Charlie Kirk & Grand Blanc, everyone could see the shift in you. The spirit was def working within you. It was beautiful. Quit fighting the Spirit, you know at some deep level that the core tenets of the faith are true.

These younger Mormon apologists are coming from a completely different environment. A different Mormonism really. They’ve grown up shaped inside apologetics and polemics, so these reinterpretations feel normal to them. They haven’t really experienced lived Mormonism as it was, what you might call Bruce R. McConkie Mormonism of certainty and hard claims. They haven’t lived through the church calling things anti Mormon that turned out to be real history. Instead, they’ve inherited something thinner, more flexible, more abstract, more surface level where they can ignore deep doctrines and past teachings and prophets that teach things they don’t like. And that’s all they know. They are trained to creatively resolve problems instead of confronting them. Their informative years were based on “doubt your doubts” while we were raised with Hugh B Browns’ “We must be willing to give up cherished beliefs if evidence and truth require it.” So when contradictions show up, the instinct isn’t to question the system like it was for many of us Gen Xers. Their instinct is to reframe it. That’s what they believe is the best way to find truth. The Stick of Joseph podcast is an example. A couple guys in their 20s. If you watched that interview with John Dehlin, it’s hard to miss the combination: confidence without context and arrogance. But it’s not just indoctrination. This social media thing has given them more incentive. In-group platitudes and shallow statements get likes and views and praise. Their identity, platform, and status are tied to defending the system so their reasoning is motivated, not neutral. They haven’t had a chance to think for themselves. And now with social they cannot. You can see these apologetics have changed from guys like Hugh Nibley to apologetics that just try to soften problems. Ward Radio, Stick of Joseph, all these shows have zero depth. They’ve shifted from Hugh Nibley claims to how do we create ambiguity so anything could be allowed to be true? It’s the only way to survive modern scrutiny, by making everything unfalsifiable. So now they’re arrogant. They think they’ve figured it out better than us old guys. Because they’re “more nuanced” and “intellectually mature” than the past generations. They don’t get caught up in minor things like polygamy, race in the priesthood, anachronisms, Book of Abraham translations like us old idiots do. And it’s our fault we didn’t research this stuff and just believed the church when we were growing up. Really the generations have grown up in entirely different religions and cultures. And while we may have been trained to think more black and white, the younger generation has been trained against thinking critically.

@nikiped1aV2 @TuckerCarlson How is he unwell according to you?

@TuckerCarlson ...Tucker, I used to like you, but you're mentally unwell brotha. Take some time off and reassess your inner circle

Pray that the spell breaks and the world is saved.

@grok @HeisenVibe @nypost @grok which sources?

She was asked point-blank in a House Judiciary hearing: "At any time during your tenure as DHS Secretary, have you had sexual relations with Corey Lewandowski?" Noem's response: "I am shocked that we’re going down and peddling tabloid garbage in this committee today." She added it's "garbage," called the questioning ridiculous, and said she's "refuted [the rumors] for years" but didn't say "no." Sources called the non-denial the "final straw" for Trump.

Noem's answer on 'sexual relations' with Lewandowski was 'final straw' for Trump, sources say trib.al/KLEn754

@grok @LDS_Dems @Manhattva So @grok it seems like the Clintons remained close with Ghislaine even after Epstein (whom they knew she was close to) had been convicted of prostitution of a minor; which conviction was 6 full years after Melania wrote her email. Is all that accurate?

Both had some acquaintance with Ghislaine Maxwell. Melania was photographed socializing with her (and Epstein) at Mar-a-Lago in 2000 and a NY fashion event; a 2002 Epstein file email from Melania reads "Dear G! ... Love, Melania" praising a profile on Epstein. Hillary testified she knew Maxwell only casually as an acquaintance; Maxwell attended Chelsea's 2010 wedding as a plus-one.

Amazing how much deference an Epstein-connected, Eastern-European porn star can get from Republicans when she is married to the President.

@LDS_Dems @Manhattva Hey @grok —which one, Hillary Clinton or Melania Trump likely knew & had a social relationship with Ghislaine Maxwell?

@Manhattva Hey, if Hillary has to testify, it is Melania's turn.

@ChazLermon @ute111111 @ParkerKingston Presumption of innocence?

@ute111111 @ParkerKingston Dog he raped a woman, why the hell are you using this to push rivalry banter and make jokes

Congrats bro! Big time! @ParkerKingston

@strictlyagirl Presumption of innocence still exists.

@jasonscheer It’s an absolutely terrible situation, and my heart goes out to her. It doesn’t matter what team or which player is involved this is wrong. Anyone who violates a woman without her consent should be held fully accountable under the law.

Poor girl probably had no idea

@BigDadLove7 @BussinWTB Except the big one when it mattered.

@BussinWTB Yet are still SEC champions and beat every team that played this year!

Georgia has not won a CFP game since they beat TCU in the National Championship 1,089 days ago

@RykerJackson97 Did those monsters leave Christmas cookies on your doorstep? May Heaven help you escape their awful grasp.

🚨UPDATE - IMMEDIATE RELEASE -🚨 THE MORMANS ARE TRYING TO INTIMIDATE ME!!!

@SethWickersham @SavageSports_ @tomhouse This is a beautiful and needed reframing of that very real sports trauma for me—very cathartic reading that. Thank you. And Welker still should have caught that damn ball.

@SavageSports_ But that slight miss also drove a phenomenally accurate quarterback, humble and driven enough to improve, to find the tools, like @tomhouse, to become even more phenomenally accurate, which led to some of the greatest moments in NFL history.

Should have never lost this Super Bowl

@goJohnnyA @1776FanGirl @SethDillon How is she an antisemite? You’re kinda proving her point.

@1776FanGirl @SethDillon Says an antisemite

Tucker's "I swear I'm not an antisemite" speech was funny. Was it supposed to be?

@mfreivald @Rylan_t77 @JS_StrngstSldr “My vague made up claim of who you are is actually supported very well by my extremely false interpretation of your beliefs!” -You, essentially

It is ridiculous in any world for a Christian to take your pagan analysis of our Christian book seriously. I mean, someone pretending that their personal, fallible interpretations distorted by their manmade pagan doctrines and traditions has any weight at all, let alone to say I don't understand them, is supposed to impress whom? And holding God bound (not your pagan limited god) by asserting your personal rules over Christ's (not your invented and limited pagan character) salvation is supposed to convice me you are not pseudo-materialists? You're just digging yourself a hole and confirming my assessment, pal.

The are calling it the most Latter-day Saint movie ever made by a non-Latter-day Saint.

@cowgrl4christ @Protestia Where in the Bible does it tell you to support unconditionally the secular government of Israel?

I’m so sick of him tracking Christian’s for believing the bible100%. Back- right before the elections - I loved Tucker- I was watching him interview Russel brand (when Russel didn’t prayer on stage). And something was powerfully unsettling in my spirit when I would watch and hear Tucker. I had a knowing that Tucker was not who he portrayed himself to be. I was so confused by it because I truly loved Tucker at the time- but I have learned to listen to that knowing. I’m glad I did Get in your Bible everyone- know the word

Appearing on Theo Von's podcast, Tucker Carlson accuses Israel of intentionally bombing Christian churches, while insisting "My actual personal rage is is directed toward my people. It's Protestant, Christian, evangelical pastors who have made deals with the Israeli government."

@5Solas2 @AlabamaFTBL @CFBPlayoff Cool cool, now do BYU

Alabama isn't a three loss team, they're a two loss team that lost their conference championship. If you're going to say the teams who didn't even play in a conference championship game are better because they have the same two losses Alabama had before they played in their conference championship then you're just an idiot.

𝗜𝗡. #RollTide

@steve_j30284 @RaraCougs @BYUCougars We didn’t lose to Florida State. And we didn’t lose a home game. I would say both those are impressive. And both our losses were to a top 10 team. You cannot say the same.

@RaraCougs @BYUCougars I never said it was a good loss, the point is Alabama beat Georgia on the road, byu didn’t do anything close to as impressive

rules for thee but not for me

@Bmooregd @ferrell_travis @thogge @jackson5payne @SportyMcSports You’re a retard, and you need to repent and quit speaking ill of the Lords Kingdom.

@ferrell_travis @thogge @jackson5payne @SportyMcSports Shit

Ahead of BYU’s game with Cincinnati on Saturday, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints sent a 27,000 pound food donation for Cincinnati’s on-campus Bearcats Pantry to support students facing food insecurity. It’s the largest single donation in the Pantry’s history.

@pimomormon @TBH1632865 Did you even read what you so deliberately assumed is copied. One is a political document, the other—the FP— is eternal religious truths. “We proclaim” is the language of Christian proclamations going back to the 18th century in America.

@TBH1632865 Yeah, it’s copied.

Why the family proclamation is out of date (and thus can’t be considered “doctrine”) open.substack.com/pub/lindahamil…

@pimomormon @are_peterson @are_peterson you’re trying to argue in good faith with someone completely incapable of doing that.

@are_peterson Ok

@BYUbluThru @Chat_Man217 Oh brother come on—you’re way smarter than this. One literal maniac attacks us and every Christian who has always thought we’re going to hell instantly condemns the attack. The left murders someone who is basically one of us and half of them all rejoice.

@Chat_Man217 Same. I thought I was on the red side until the red side chose an attack on one of our church buildings and members to make clear how much they hate us.

This hits hard right now.