@incredutility Yoto is great. My kids have listened every night for years.
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Drew Condon
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Drew Condon
@checkpluss
Product Design / PLG @klaviyo formerly @hubspot @runkeeper
Boston, MA Katılım Haziran 2008
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Another iPad alternative is the Yoto player - audiobooks, podcasts, and music for kids. They also have an amazing BBC-style daily news report! Strong recommend.
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@avstorm It looks like shit. Someone clearly made it zoomed in 400%. Hope that helps.
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I genuinely don’t understand the outrage over Spotify’s temporary app icon. A 20-year anniversary is exactly when a company should be allowed to do something playful and different. The default will be back soon.
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@FonsMans @pascowebdesigns Feels like I’m having an ocular stroke.
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Everyone talks about craft and opinionated design, but as soon as Spotify drops a fun app icon, those same people freak out.
The temporary icon is great. You know you’ve made something great when people have extreme reactions to it.
Never aim to please everyone.
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@FonsMans You really don’t.
I could spit on the table in front of you and you’d have an extreme reaction. That doesn’t mean it’s good.
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Whoever designed this needs to be fired immediately:
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We need to stop talking about product design in absolutes… there are no rules. Everything is made up. Do what makes sense and feels right.
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I think at some rate product designers lost the plot. We were meant to be inventors, thinkers, and a bridge between humans and the message or invention.
We aren’t meant to merely declutter, simplify, or make things pretty.
Designers are meant to make the very thing humans will be working with, in every imaginable way possible.
We are not rectangle builders, we are not pixel pushers, we are inventors and builders pushing to communicate to humans or let humans communicate to our inventions.
joshpuckett@joshpuckett
I think this is worth some nuance. In recent history, many companies have employed 'product designers' whose primary activity and output has been the creation of software interface facsimiles, e.g. mockups in a drawing tool like Figma. Those making mockups have of course been doing more than just that, to varying extents leading or more commonly participating in the process of deciding what to build and why. But there was value in that tangible output itself. I think @gokulr is directionally correct that the role of someone whose primary output is the creating of an interface mockup is quickly disappearing. But the role of someone who figures out what needs to exist, why, how it should work, how it should should be positioned, differentiated and made memorable has never been more in demand. I speak with founders on a near weekly basis (many of them in Gokul's own portfolio) desperate for this kind of person. His conclusions though I agree with almost entirely: there will always be an opportunity to specialize in the creation of visual interfaces, but more broadly most product designers who want to be employees (totally fine) should take on more responsibilities that have historically been done by PMs or Engineers, to varying degrees. From my POV, this is just what a product designer is and what we should have been doing the whole time, but that's another post.
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@mweinbach “Chat, order my usual coffee at Starbucks”.
The only thing easier than this is thinking it.
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@checkpluss and you know what's even easier? just tapping a few buttons on an app
that's EVEN easier than conversational
with ai ux you need to pick your battles, this is not one of them
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This is why it sucks and AI replacing UI and apps makes no sense
The order flow of using the Starbucks app (19 seconds) vs ChatGPT (103 seconds)
Wes Bos@wesbos
Starbuck'ss ChatGPT app is one of the first MCP apps I've seen break outside the tech circle. very interesting that the public's reaction is poor as this is supposed to be the future of UI
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@wesbos Who would’ve thought having a UI that gives no visibility into a finite menu of options where users have strong opinions on said menu options doesn’t make any sense
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@karrisaarinen I want travel between map view and first person view.
I want the top down field marshall view of Figma art boards and components AND the ability to work in a live timeline/event based prototype view of the world.
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My ideal AI design tool probably something like:
A canvas tool, where you can get any view of your app rendered to edit or use as the starting point for a new view. You can freely explore, duplicate, and make changes visually.
You could start these renders from other tools like @linear. User feedback -> render the screen to be edited.
It would have design language, system and product guidance files that help guide the overall design based on your product.
Each artboard carries metadata, like the origin of the view, who created it, what changes was made when, so you could query things across your whole team.
You could create areas that you want AI to fill or complete. Fill this list, complete the columns with this data or using this screenshot or something.
Edits in the artboard are tracked as a diff. You export those diffs as a plan for a coding agent to build against your actual codebase.
The design tool agents keep check-ins with the coding agent and try to communicate the nuances of the design so it gets built as a prototype.
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@hobdaydesign Once made a decision tree for the @HubSpot product design team about whether we should use an icon and every choice unironically led to “no”.
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Opinions like this would make more sense if ~every designer who's worked on an application interface in the last 10 years hadn't insisted on putting icons next to every action. e.g. navigation sidebars, context menus. (Not a comment on Ruben. Maybe he's text-only).
Ruben Hume@rubenhume
Apple shipped macOS Tahoe with an icon next to every single menu item. And in doing so, destroyed the entire point of icons. An icon is a signal, and signals only work through contrast. The moment everything has one, none of them mean anything, you've just added noise that looks like clarity. Apple even reuses the same icon for completely different actions. The right menu is my take: icons only on the actions you actually reach for daily: New Window, New Tab, Close. Everything else stays clean. Your eye knows exactly where to go. The left is Tahoe. Every item screaming at the same volume. Apple's own 1992 design guidelines called out every single one of these mistakes. Thirty years later, they made all of them. Adding more is not the same as adding value. What's your take?
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@YouAndYourBS @hobdaydesign Nah. It’s us, the call is coming from inside the house.
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From my experience it's not the designers that insist on that, it's everyone that isn't a designer.
"Hey why aren't there icons next to some of these?"
Then you have to win that argument, and it can be a hard one to win when you have less power to make decisions that the stakeholder.
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Folks slowly realizing handing off vibe coded prototypes is harder than handing offs well-composed and documented Figma files.
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@vic_muchiri Got it thanks. What's the construction equivalent of chat then?
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Doesn’t work in construction tech.
This modality assumes users know what they’re looking for. For a SaaS industry that’s used to having everything at their fingertips, with dashboards galore, it’s easy to know what’s available/possible. For construction, good luck.
Rabi Shanker Guha@rabi_guha
notice something? Linear, PostHog, Attio - all shipped the same thing in the last few weeks. Homepage is a chat bar - not a dashboard. This is the SaaS industry quietly admitting that traditional UI doesn't work anymore. Every user is different. One homepage can't serve them all. The playbook is shifting: → expose your core APIs → connect an agentic layer → let users use software the way they want SaaS became chat. Chat will become Generative UI - the agent won't just reply in text, it will compose the interface itself. We're closer than people think.
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Am I crazy or can we still not connect an AI agent to @figma and actually design stuff?
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“There are people like us in every neighborhood and every downtown. All of these projects dance on a knife’s edge. All of them do. If you made it slightly easier, you might trip someone over into saying, ‘I’m doing this,’ versus not doing it.” @bow_market
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