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@brianmari3 @Chofamba The likes of Biti and Timba need this education. Varikungomhanya nechituna vakashama

@Chofamba how are you? 1. Because I have so much respect for you I will respond to you. 2. Your question "Ko Timba Ava kutukwa atadzei?". 3. Firstly let me say your question goes too too far back for me to take you there but let me deal with CAB3. 4. You must have a little bit of knowledge on state's international obligation on elections and Pacific Settlement of dispute process to fully understand my point on CAB3. 5. Furthermore you must have full understanding of difference between Dispute and Argument. 6. For years people have been fooled and those of us were the role players in the deception and that is why you think someone is fighting CAB3 when he is not fighting anything. 7. To put a light into your sense, I have put screen shot of Chapter IV of UN charter, read article 33, 37 and 37 will refer you to 36. 8. Art 33 will tell that "The parties to any dispute, the continuance of which is likely to endanger the maintenance of international peace and security, shall, first of all, seek a solution by negotiation, enquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement, resort to regional agencies or arrangements, or other peaceful means of their own choice". 9. We all know as Zimbabweans we have disputed elections that have long history and I do not want to repeat the history here. In that regard "quote" the word "dispute" and word "parties". 10. While previous elections were challenged in constitutional court, and side show arguments were created in previous situation, like the recalls of 2020, appropriation of party funds to Mwonzora, which are all arguments that were deliberately created to stitch up the legitimate disputes in election and give an excuse before Security Council, 11. We also know that the previous elections were held under boundaries of a Delimitation exercise of 2007 under former constitution such that most of us do not understand the legal effect of a delimitation report that failed to pass the constitutional test before even elections are held, that is why we have all sorts of theories, zanu expected opposition to challenge this at their constitutional court, the opposition did not, 12. We also know that ZEC invited those who wanted to participate in the Party list election to submit names of their office bearers, I put the notice for you to read and understand that it was done before elections. The official invitation creates "party" to a dispute. 13. A party that contested as CCC had 3 persons as National office bearers of Party CCC, I put a screen short of it here too. Contextualise yourself the word "party" to have the article 33 of UN Charter meaning not this zanu meaning you have become accoustoned to. 14. We all know that the election 2023 failed to pass the pre requisites in constitution and international obligation and again zanu expected opposition to challenge this with constitutional court and opposition did not challenge this in court. 15. Once election fail on delimitation report, the principle of universal suffrage in any election after that cannot be valid. You cannot even talk of 2028 election without valid electoral boundaries. 16. Furthermore a political party that contest on party list election, gets funding from state under political parties finance Act. Which then put an obligation to also look at Political Parties Finance Act to understand the word "party" and strictly on the meaning in art 33 of UN charter. 17. All the above are regulated by UN and UN Security Council has direct authority to resolve disputes on these matters. 18. As you can see from article 33 that there are several options that disputes can be resolved before it can go to security Council. 19. For years zanu has been using some of us to cheat the process of having dispute resolved, it has been creating political decoys to distract people from real dispute. 20. When delimitation was made in 2022, it was made on the background of an earlier attempt to amend constitution over the timing of delimitation. In that regard, delimitation report was rigged with a hope that opposition will challenge it in constitutional court. They did not. 21. Bear in mind that once a thing is challenged and a decision is made, it is assumed that a dispute resolution was made. 22. I do not want to go too far in political arguments so that I do not cloud the point behind CAB3. 23. After elections were declared by accredited observers as not complying with Zimbabwe constitution and it failed on the delimitation report, the immediate fact was that there is s155(1) of constitution had been breached. 24. It does not require political arguments but s155(2) immediately takes over. This exercise happens after every election in every country and because there has never been a delimitation exercise from 2007, most of us have not realised that Electoral Reforms that were put in Electoral Act were a result of this exercise. You need a background of secretarial duties to know the dirty work played by Permanent Secretaries after every election to remedy the electoral short comings. 25. What cannot be done with Electoral Act or Permanent Secretaries is what s155(2) demands. I now want you to go to CAB3 and compare it with s155(2) and refer to the International obligations I gave you above. You will see that CAB3 is a decoy exercise of s155(2) with objective of creating a dispute over the proposed "agenda" set in CAB3 thereby avoiding art 37 of UN Charter over those matters. 26. From onset CAB3 is never ever meant to amend constitution. Never. It is placing items on disputed elections agenda on a paper that threatens people and make an impression so clear that if you go to a constitutional court, there is going to be an obvious win. 27. What ever the verdict that constitutional court gives, the point is by approaching it, you would have bound yourself to the verdict and article 33 would have been satisfied. 28. Now to legitimise this exercise, the words "parties to any dispute" in article 33 of UN charter has to be satisfied. 27. This is the part you must now understand, "Timba atadzei". While every citizen of Zimbabwe is by virtue of their citizen ID is party to the dispute, the UN Security Council deal with names on Prescribed state papers as "Party" to the dispute. 28. We may have our views about @nelsonchamisa liking him or dislike him, @Hon_Kasukuwere like him or not like him, @DMwonzora like him or not like him, @ProfMadhuku like him or not like him, these people were on state prescribed paper as candidate for election 2023. 29. Most people confuse representation by candidates to refer to election results, of course after election win, the winner is said to represent the seat. But when considering disputed elections, each candidate is nominated by a minimum of registered voters with names and IDs on a state prescribed form. If on an election, a dispute arises, the presidential candidate holding a VN3 Form from ZEC listing names of people nominating him is validly "party" to a dispute on anything to do with election. 30. Do not be fooled by those that talk of party constitutions and structure, state prescribed papers are the recognized. What makes them "party" is that the state made a proclamation declaring electoral vacancies, and people took prescribed papers that list people who choose the person to "represent" then. The people who wish to be represented list their names and IDs. The nominated person "accepts" to represent them on a paper. This is what "party" means and not the stupid lies about constitutions and structures peddled by decoys 31. Now a party that wish to contest party list seats has more than three UN treaties that govern this, the ICCPR, the United Nations Convention Against Corrupt Activities, Anti terrorism treaty and the state has obligations in all these treaties such that we must not be lousy in thinking that a person from no where can walk in to parliament and say I am Secretary General of party so and so. The parliament dismiss people from parliament at that person's behest and ZEC complies, minister of Finance give out the money and Security Council does not see a wrong in that. 32. Of course s3(2) of constitution direct the respect of rights of political parties by state, 33. It is the state that prescribed Form VN5 in order to comply with CCPR GC 25 paragraph 18 and it put up a notice to public to download the form, fill in names of national office bearers of their party. 34. I have put the screen short of form VN5 filled in by CCC, we can all read the names and their ID numbers. @JamesonTimba is not a national office bearer of a party CCC that contested election 2023, this has nothing to do with his political influence or hate or anything. It has everything to do with identity of parties to dispute before us. 35. After @nelsonchamisa disassociated himself from CCC many people who do not understand the electoral system and took @nelsonchamisa as office bearer of CCC or thought his right to be party to electoral dispute depend on him being "president" of a party CCC. 36. Nelson was nominated as presidential candidate from 10 provinces on a state prescribed paper VN3, that is what makes him stand as "party" to disputed electoral process. 37. I will not waste time with @DubekoSibanda who was a constituency candidate, he will not have a national locus standi. 38. Now Biti and Timba are involved in an argument on whether CAB3 should be enacted or not. It remains an argument until one prove your legal title as CDF and prove how CAB3 has affected your rights. Non of them can meet the pre requisite of "party" to article 37 of UN Charter. 38. Zanu through it's proxies, it is trying all it's efforts to try and create a dispute resolution forum of their own, where they table items that must stand before UN and use stoogies that legitimise the process. 39. Then Zanu will say we are solving dispute our way. 40. We are watching the process and painting those who pretend. 41. Mere production of a state prescribed paper listing your name as "party" to the representation of people at National level put you in a position to bring the dispute to UN Security Council. 42. Of course we went past the Regional stage and CAB3 must rather be a door step to UN Security Council and not a thing to scare us

I stand with him. Timba thought it will last for ever. He can fool some people all the time but not all people are foolish all the time

@mawarirej What has mawarire achieved in Zim politics? Dololo

What I posted is my personal opinion, saka siyana neni.🤣🤣🤣

You people be serious. What have those conveners achieved. The last time l heard is that they withdrew which is always the doings of the cowards. They now blame Chamisa for their lake of leadership. Till today murikungowawata and you have failed to form a party inotendwa nevanhu. What type of people are you? cowards. You want to ride on Chamisa’s popularity

Surprising that @nelsonchamisa wanted @JamesonTimba to seek for permission from someone who resigned from the political party that Timba is now leading. The kind of political delusion of grandeur that Chamisa carries is incredible.

@kuseriseriuko @Am_Blujay What are you going to do then. Are you going to continue singing that Chamisa arikuZanu. Zvinosunungura Nyika here izvozvo. What exactly are you doing to be better than Chamisa? Dololo . Empty headed people will always achieve nothing. You think talking about Chamisa is progress?

@gratefulrah @Am_Blujay Chamisa is part of zanu u lunatic. Stop thinking with your dickhead

This man is the reason why we still have Zanu Pf he is a paid agent 😂

@Madorofiya Why is it that murikutadza kumukurira? How many are you in the opposition. Munokonewa kukurira munhu asina bato. You and your leaders are useless people. You always bring what you call evidence but still you fail to win the talk him down war.

Chamisa is AGAINST any form of opposition to Zanupf if HE isn't at the center of it.

@KMutisi @nelsonchamisa @BitiTendai @DailyNewsZim @JamesonTimba Yes, who gave them the mandate. They all know who has the mandate. CDF failed to move an inch. They only managed to withdraw because they failed to lead.

Nelson Chamisa @nelsonchamisa says people like @BitiTendai who lack any mandate shouldn’t be claiming to be speaking for the people. The club is part of the interview done & recorded by the @DailyNewsZim . @JamesonTimba, come collect your message here.

@PacheduZW @DMwonzora @JamesonTimba @ProfMadhuku @BitiTendai @Zinasuzim @ARTUZ_teachers @DubekoSibanda Pachedu wavakutopengao zvako. People follow leaders kwete mhepo. So you think wadoma maleaders. Vana pengaUdzoke. Vanagwenya kwese and you call them leaders. What have they achieved since becoming cdf leaders

The fight is about liberating Zimbabwe, and anyone who makes a good call we all need to answer. We will answer to @DMwonzora @JamesonTimba to @ProfMadhuku to @BitiTendai to @Zinasuzim @ARTUZ_teachers to @DubekoSibanda and so on for as long as that call is genuine. The audio that have been released are very regrettable especially as we all fight CAB.

ONLY a FOOL would accept a media house that presents EVIDENCE of what a GUEST said in an interview MINUS the QUESTION that produced the answer. An interview is NOT a rally or a press statement where one speaks freely without prompt, it is a structured exchange of QUESTIONS and RESPONSES. Therefore, isolating responses from their QUESTIONS, CONTEXT, and PURPOSE is not journalism; it is distortion. What exactly was the QUESTION asked? What was the PURPOSE of the interview? What was the full CONTEXT of the exchange? Without that, you are not informing the nation—you are manufacturing impressions and feeding cheap gossip for “I told you so” narratives and political hate clubs. We are a nation that deserves RESPECT, ACCURACY, and FULL CONTEXT, not selective audio fragments designed to suit agendas. If you want to be taken seriously, report FULL Facts, otherwise you risk turning DailyNewsZim into a platform of MEDIOCRITY rather than credible journalism......!!!!!

@ChikomoPrazen They must give us the full interview

ONLY a FOOL would accept a media house that presents EVIDENCE of what a GUEST said in an interview MINUS the QUESTION that produced the answer. An interview is NOT a rally or a press statement where one speaks freely without prompt, it is a structured exchange of QUESTIONS and RESPONSES. Therefore, isolating responses from their QUESTIONS, CONTEXT, and PURPOSE is not journalism; it is distortion. What exactly was the QUESTION asked? What was the PURPOSE of the interview? What was the full CONTEXT of the exchange? Without that, you are not informing the nation—you are manufacturing impressions and feeding cheap gossip for “I told you so” narratives and political hate clubs. We are a nation that deserves RESPECT, ACCURACY, and FULL CONTEXT, not selective audio fragments designed to suit agendas. If you want to be taken seriously, report FULL Facts, otherwise you risk turning DailyNewsZim into a platform of MEDIOCRITY rather than credible journalism......!!!!!

Chamisa told you, there is no constitution to defend and you took him for a fool. How are you defending the constitution these days. Is there any thing better you are doing than what Chamisa is doing. Short sighted people believe after seeing. People with Vision foresee things before they happen.

@SandileMakeba Iye wakatendera vakadzi kubhema mbanje akatiparira

Chamisa is part of the 2030 agenda. They used Tshabangu as a justification for Chamisa to abandon the CCC in order to de-associate him from the parliamentary events where his MPS would vote for the CAB3. That's why they dumped characters like Biti through Bereka-Mwana.

@freemanchari Freeman you talking like someone who doesn't know the history of MDC. How far neCDF? Raincoat bapu ka. You were only trying to counter Chamisa's statement, there's no constitution to defend. How are you defending it these days? Chamisa is our next President

Unfortunately folks will rewrite history and fail to be accountable for the issues we are witnessing today. Over the years, people rose through the ranks of MDC through stepping on others and smearing genuine cadres until the bulk of them chose to walk away and live their lives away from the toxicity of the "struggle". By the time we got to the GNU a lot of genuine cadres who had given their all were cleared. Most of them became academics or left for the Diaspora. The gaps they left were filled by untested people - some good, some horrible. By the time we got to 2018, most of the cdes I had worked with since 2001 were on the sidelines which meant the base of MDC-18 was relatively a coalition of the old-of-2008 and the post-2013 crop with different views on how the struggle is executed. The Khupe incident remains a very bad chapter in MDC's history. It set a very bad base for the MDC-2018. But again, it was an opportunity not only for NC but for a lot of pple to rise on the back of stepping on other people or outmanouvering others. Again, when Mwonzora left (Which I still think was avoidable if egos were not the primary factor) it was an opportunity for people to rise. All this meant, the opportunities fell on untested people most of whom were mere opportunists with little commitment to the real struggle for change. By 2022, the mantra was - The NEW! CCC was born. The pre-2018 MDC remnants existed mostly at the benevolence of NC. There was a new crop. A crop that generally had no understanding of the historical non-commercial execution of the struggle. The struggle shifted from being radically ideological to purely theological. The struggle lost its bearings! By the time Tshabangu erupted, there was really nothing to defend in CCC. There were no stockholders. CCC had sympathisers not members. Most of those who viewed themselves as stakeholders were folks born and bred in environments that believe God will intervene, all they needed to do is kneel/pamabvi/emadolweni. The crew that were deployed in councils and parliament via berekamwana, most of them had zero history in the previous struggles that actually had a resistance factor in them. It was an opportunity for survival. They had no issue licking the side where their bread is buttered. So, what have we learnt? - History is more important than today - Until the stomach is challenged, the heart remains a mystery - There is a reason the body does not kill normal bacteria (flora) in the gut or vagina - Prayer must not get in the way of swords, they can co-exist but each knowing their purpose. #NOTO2030 Ndatenda

@nelsonchamisa That was the best. You have gone through difficult times. Where the people you trusted most turned against you. You're alive today only by the grace of God. All this has molded you to be a good President of Zimbabwe.

THE TRUTH SPEAKS LAST.. Sometimes clarity only comes after you step away. Walking away from CCC wasn’t easy, but it was necessary. I’m grateful to the Lord for His steady, faithful guidance through it all and every step of the way. It was the right decision, no regrets. When God leads, you move with conviction. #Godisinit #FreshStart

I have ignored this Charlatan long enough but I will respond and will be very brief. Chamisa Won 2018 elections, you blocked him using the same Military you tout here. In 2023 he won again, u performed a Coup against him. Now Mafidi is showing u flames, you want want NC to save u

@SajeniMapuranga @freemufumiri @BlessedGeza @kerinamujati @LynneStactia @MartinTarusenga You are the very people who always manipulates the election results and today you pretend to be for the people. Shame on you

I am a soldier. I deal in facts, in patterns, and in the kind of institutional pattern analysis that a lifetime of military intelligence work teaches you to apply when something does not add up. Something does not add up. And I will not pretend otherwise simply because saying so makes powerful people uncomfortable. Nelson Chamisa is the most recognisable opposition figure in Zimbabwe. He is a man who built his entire political identity on the promise of democratic resistance on the proposition that he and his movement stood between the Zimbabwean people and the permanent entrenchment of one-party political dominance. Constitutional Amendment Bill No. 3 is the most consequential assault on Zimbabwe's democratic architecture since the Constitution was adopted in 2013. It proposes to remove the direct popular presidential vote. It proposes to extend the presidential term. It proposes to restructure the relationship between the executive and the legislature in ways that by any honest constitutional assessment concentrate power rather than distribute it. This is precisely the kind of moment that Nelson Chamisa's entire political career was supposedly building toward. This is the hill that the opposition was always supposed to die on loudly, visibly, and with the full mobilisation of every democratic resource at its disposal. Where is Nelson Chamisa? Not a major speech. Not a sustained public campaign. Not the kind of front-line democratic resistance that CAB3 demands and that Chamisa's own political biography would lead every reasonable observer to expect. Silence. Measured, conspicuous, and to those of us who study political behaviour for a living deeply, troublingly meaningful silence. In military intelligence we have a term for the absence of expected activity in a known operational area. We call it a tactical withdrawal. And tactical withdrawals do not happen without a reason.When an actor who has consistently and loudly occupied a political space suddenly vacates that space precisely when the stakes in that space are at their highest the intelligence analyst's first question is never "perhaps they simply changed their mind."The first question is: what changed? What changed for Nelson Chamisa between his years of loud, sustained, front-line democratic resistance and his current studied silence on the most important constitutional question Zimbabwe has faced in a generation? I am not a court of law. I am not a prosecutor. I am not in a position to answer that question definitively and I will not pretend otherwise. But I am a Zimbabwean soldier who swore an oath to this republic. And that oath requires me to ask the question publicly loudly, on the record, and without apology. What changed, Mr. Chamisa? What silenced you? The CAB3 process is happening within that environment. And within that environment, questions about who is being resourced to do what and who is being resourced to do nothing are not paranoid conspiracy theorising. They are legitimate, necessary, urgent questions of democratic accountability. I am aware that documents are circulating. I am aware that allegations are being made in various quarters about the financial dimensions of certain political actors' behaviour around CAB3. Today I am in a position to verify those documents or those allegations independently. But I am in a position and I feel the obligation to say this A huge corruption deal has caused democratic backsliding in zimbabwe which is aiding CAB3 . This was achieved by bribing of a top opposition leader Nero chamisa who recieved a staggering amount to the tune of 5million dolars and necessitated /laundered by one of the top law firms in zimbabwe. Not speaking about the US$20 million that Nelson Chamisa pocketed as a pay off to go on a forced sabatical and move go mute on active politics until 2030 . The “Gods” have favoured mukomana apart from the $20million

@SajeniMapuranga @freemufumiri @BlessedGeza @kerinamujati @LynneStactia @MartinTarusenga As a soldier what did you do when opposition supporters were raped , maimed , killed and abducted in 2008.Were you paid to be collaborators and instigators of 2008 violence

@SajeniMapuranga @freemufumiri @BlessedGeza @kerinamujati @LynneStactia @MartinTarusenga You all know Chamisa has numbers and you all expect him to do things according to your own ways. You want to control him. You removed Mugabe and replaced him with Munangagwa. What were you thinking? Was that a good idea? Because you are failing to get the following you expected ?