Im out.

@FocusOnTheIdea @SidAlpha that's quite literally not what that says, i said people are going to be bitchy if a game doesn't, i didn't say it has to, i said people will complain. but you know what it's now the morning, i've had a chance to sleep on this, and i don't care anymore.

@Paladin_Plays_G @SidAlpha For those following along at home, here is Paladin's post, where he complains that stopkillinggames must represent the game as it was at the end. This is what I initially responded to.

Yes, every team will need to have an EOL plan for every game. 'Tis true. What maintenance would be needed for an established plan let alone so much maintenance that would necessitate an entire team? What, do you think they would need to develop and rework the plan after every game update or something? Only PARTIALLY being sassy here. Partially curious if I'm missing something obvious here.

@Marqrk1 @FocusOnTheIdea @SidAlpha that's not what i said, you know what im out, i don't have the fucks to care anymore, yall can sit in your happy little echo chamber and scream at someone else who dares bring up the issues of SKG.

@Paladin_Plays_G @FocusOnTheIdea @SidAlpha No sane person reads “reasonable means to continue functioning of said games without the involvement of the publisher” and thinks that means they have to make literally every single patch version ever made available for download. That’s not how words work

@fursainty @NeonSilverOptic @SidAlpha I didn't say playing, and it may only TAKE a 100 or so, but with a player base of several million there will be a thousand or more people working on private servers, and that information will be shared.

@Paladin_Plays_G @NeonSilverOptic @SidAlpha "a couple a thousand players dedicated to bring a server to life" While server development is a community activity it does not need more than 10 knowledgeable people to make one, if even that, the number of people playing on it is irrelevant.

@FocusOnTheIdea @SidAlpha YOU SAID THAT

@Paladin_Plays_G @SidAlpha We're "arguing" because you have repeatedly insisted it had to mean "in its final form" and was badly worded because it didn't say that. The source of the argument was your misunderstanding, or intentional misrepresentation. I'm not ready to rule the latter out.

@FocusOnTheIdea @SidAlpha i haven't added anything to anything it literally just says "functional playable state" my thought on that is that it is a wide spectrum of possibilities, you added to it remember this?

@Paladin_Plays_G @SidAlpha You are attempting to proscribe a definition to the initiative that is not there. And then complaining that the imitative doesn't word it in the way YOU think it should be worded, based on what YOU are adding to it. But that's never been part of the initiative. The error is you.

@FocusOnTheIdea @SidAlpha FUCKING EXACTLY, why are we arguing we're saying the same damn thing, playable means playable which is a wide spectrum of possibilities, everything from pre alpha to final product.

@Paladin_Plays_G @SidAlpha Let me make this as easy for you as humanly possible. It DOESN'T say "playable in the game's final form" because it doesn't ask for games to be "playable in their final form." It says "playable" because it wants them to be "playable". And that may be in a more limited form.

@FocusOnTheIdea @SidAlpha if it meant to say that it would just say that, instead it presents wording that is open to a wide and vast spectrum of possibilities.

@Paladin_Plays_G @SidAlpha "It's poorly written" says the person misrepresenting what it says and failing to acknowledge that it is written to say EXACTLY what it intends to say. You really are Pirate Software Jr. with that one.

@FocusOnTheIdea @SidAlpha you have to understand your argument is basically like saying "i think eggs are awesome" but meaning "in a cake"

@Paladin_Plays_G @SidAlpha And AS IT IS WRITTEN is not what you were claiming it to be. Just like Pirate Software, you were wrong, you were misrepresenting what the initiative said, and now you refuse to acknowledge that and instead just want to double down.

@FocusOnTheIdea @SidAlpha the videos don't matter, the FAQs don't matter, the initiative AS WRITTEN is what will go into law makers hands.

@Paladin_Plays_G @SidAlpha And this is a point that Ross himself goes over many, many times in his videos. You know, the person you SHOULD be following about the initiative, instead of the known liar Pirate Software.

@FocusOnTheIdea @SidAlpha .... exactly? thank you for making my paint, playable state is a spectrum everything from finished and sunset, to pre alpha and literally every possibility in-between.

@Paladin_Plays_G @SidAlpha So your entire "gotchya" here is that you misread the wording and when called out about it are having to deflect that the person trying to correct you is somehow arguing in bad faith. The initiative has always been "in a playable state". Period. Not "in a perfect recreation."

@the_patch_dev @BrandonR505 @StopKilingGames @PirateSoftware or they could have actually talked to developers... gotten a base line idea of what goes into game development.

It wasn't written by or for devs, it was written by consumers FOR the EU in proposing their concerns as an ECI. A comprehensive filing is publicly available on the ECI website: citizens-initiative.europa.eu/initiatives/de… This odd narrative that citizens need to be sufficiently literate to voice their concerns and proposals is absurd; this is WHY the ECI exists.

The @StopKilingGames movement has gained some steam, and as a FOCG dev, it's been great to see support from gamers on the initiative.
That said, people such as @PirateSoftware have voiced some concerns, and as much hate as he’s received for his takes, I think there is merit to them. For example, the FAQ section of their site feels like it was written without dev insight and oversimplifies complex issues. It’s disheartening as a dev to see the challenges we have spent years working on reduced to “trivial” changes. Many of us in the FOCG community align with the values of SKG. But I worry that a lack of experienced dev voices could unintentionally set back the cause. I'd love to see more leadership from people who've been deep in the trenches on these issues for years, open-source, onchain, and dev alike, owning a bigger role.

@FocusOnTheIdea @SidAlpha so you're entire "gatcha" here is that you gave me the wrong wording and also are entirely unable to understand the massive spectrum that is "functional and playable state" because you WANT it to be what you want it to be instead of understanding that the wording is awful

@Paladin_Plays_G @SidAlpha Is it your believe that "leave video games in a functional (playable) state" is the exact equivalent of "must be playable exactly as it is in its final supported state"? If so, I refer you to the previous "You can just say 'I don't actually know what stopkillinggame says'."

@FocusOnTheIdea @SidAlpha huh... that's weird

@Paladin_Plays_G @SidAlpha Since you've read it so much you can show me the part where it says "must be playable exactly as it is in its final supported state". I'll wait.

@SidAlpha @FocusOnTheIdea but you know keep shaming people for not having followers on a platform that's thriving on Ai generated chaos.

@SidAlpha @FocusOnTheIdea yeah i made this account when i started making videos on youtube in april, i don't care to follow anyone on here and im following pirate because Frankley it's easier to track this debacle through him than anyone else since yall can't leave him alone.

@FocusOnTheIdea @SidAlpha have you read the initiative? I have, 4 or 5 times now to ensure i know what im talking about, so why don't you tell me what it's about and if you say ownership you're talking out your ass cause the third sentence in the initiative says they don't seek ownership.

@Paladin_Plays_G @SidAlpha You can just say "I don't actually know what stopkillinggame says". It's a lot easier.

@GamewithDave you have all the capability to just make this image a thing but you got AI to fuckin do it????

Best video game from the year 2000?

@fwtimini and my god is it amazing, you can do whatever you want whenever you want no need to check with anyone else, no one to complain that you're doing something wrong, or you're not meeting their needs while they sit on their ass all day on their phone not doing anything.

Staying alone is so crązy… You go home, shower, eat, use your phone, and stay silent until you talk to someone at work the next day.

@midnightlunachr or just stick to the classic "this production contains scenes of ...." instead of trying to come off weirdly familiar.

isn't this literally better than censorship ? Preserving media while establishing a quick context beforehand