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Wise Mountain Ape
Wise Mountain Ape@wildlowerwolves·
@HistoryBoomer We (hopefully) get access to a huge market and the end of a decades-long beef of which most Americans under 55 probably couldn’t tell you the source. I’ll take it!
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Wise Mountain Ape
Wise Mountain Ape@wildlowerwolves·
@policytensor Every nation we don’t get along with is duty bound to stand naked before her enemies (even when she’s just demonstrated our incapacity to disarm her)
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Policy Tensor
Policy Tensor@policytensor·
See the look on her face when she says “You think Iran needs to be able to defend itself?” It says: “How dare you sir? Only genocidal regimes have the right to defend themselves. Do you not know the fucking rules?”
Aaron Rupar@atrupar

KAITLAN COLLINS: Are you okay with Iran having missiles? SEN. ROGER MARSHALL: I prefer that they not, but they have to defend themselves COLLINS: You think Iran needs to be able to defend itself? MARSHALL: I do, otherwise we turn this into a forever war

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Wise Mountain Ape
Wise Mountain Ape@wildlowerwolves·
@claycaldonian @kenklippenstein “We”’re not, investors are, in the expectation of turning a handsome profit by getting in early on a massive market and educated work force. The rest is their own frozen funds and reparations from the Arabs who facilitated the aggression.
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c@claycaldonian·
I think it’s just really frustrating for Americans who have dealt with 10% real inflation per year high gas prices and expensive wars for Israel and the epstein class to now have to spend 300b to reconstruct Iran which was destroyed for no reason and will cause yet more inflation. It’s so tiring
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Wise Mountain Ape
Wise Mountain Ape@wildlowerwolves·
@thirty313 @kenklippenstein We’re not paying them anything. We’re giving back the money we’ve kept frozen in escrow (ie stolen) for years. The $300 billion is private investment. Now, the United Arab Satrapies, nee Emirates? They’re paying for their mistakes.
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thirty313
thirty313@thirty313·
@kenklippenstein People are barely able to put food on the table and keep a roof over their heads and now we have to pay even more for a war we never should have had to pay for in the first place. It's not that hard to understand.
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Wise Mountain Ape
Wise Mountain Ape@wildlowerwolves·
@kenklippenstein And we’ve been stealing their assets for years, and inflicting the most grotesquely baroque sanctions regime, and purposely immiserating their population in an intentional attempt to stoke a violent revolution. Have they done bad shit? Yes! Have they been relentlessly provoked?
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Joaquin Castro
Joaquin Castro@JoaquinCastrotx·
The war against Iran was doomed from the start. President Donald Trump, alongside Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, launched this war without clear objectives and without making the case to the American people or the Congress. Thirteen American servicemembers have been killed and hundreds more have been injured. The war has claimed the lives of countless civilians, including scores of Iranian schoolgirls killed in the early days of the war. President Trump’s conflict has cost our country dearly. We have spent billions in taxpayer dollars on military aircraft, equipment, missiles, and munitions. American families are left paying the price at gas pumps and grocery stores. The President should never have started this war, and I am glad to see that there may be a negotiated end to the conflict. As I told Secretary Rubio earlier this month, I am open to hearing the administration’s case for this agreement and that if there is a deal, I would approach it with a fair mind. I meant it. Matters of war and peace must rise above partisan politics. Democrats must not replicate Republicans’ irresponsible opposition to the Obama Administration’s Iran nuclear agreement, which placed real constraints on Iran’s nuclear program before President Trump foolishly tore it up, setting the stage for this disastrous war. The administration must fully inform the Congress on the details of the U.S.-Iran Memorandum of Understanding, outlining the administration's goals during the 60-day ceasefire period and what is required of all parties, including Israel, to ensure the ceasefire holds as negotiations continue. We must deliver to the American people a permanent end to this conflict. The nation does not want the United States involved in yet another forever war in the Middle East.
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Wise Mountain Ape
Wise Mountain Ape@wildlowerwolves·
@policytensor I think you underestimate how much care the Iranian government is taking not to inflame the right flank. The Persian version of Lindsay Graham is not crazy about this deal (or rather, the idea of a deal with Donald J. Trump.)
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Wise Mountain Ape
Wise Mountain Ape@wildlowerwolves·
@SeanTrende @jimmygandhi Anyone who thinks “apocalyptic mullahs” at this point is actively retarded (and no one in the Pentagon, State or intelligence—including Israeli intelligence—believes it.) All you have to do is look at how tightly and strategically they controlled their escalation through this.
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Sean T at RCP
Sean T at RCP@SeanTrende·
@jimmygandhi Right. And the smart conservative critique is lol no they will just build a bomb and at this point it will be impossible to stop them. And which side is correct mostly depends on whether you think they're more rational state actors or more apocalyptic mullahs at heart.
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Wise Mountain Ape
Wise Mountain Ape@wildlowerwolves·
@SeanTrende They barely got any relief before Trump pulled out and then we spent eight years trying to choke them to death. And here we are.
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Wise Mountain Ape
Wise Mountain Ape@wildlowerwolves·
@colwight He did that the night he came out and said “regime change” and tried to collapse the government, pushing them into playing their ace in the hole. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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Colin Wight (not Colin Wright)
Trump has just handed control of the global economy over to Iran. And ignoring everything he says in the art of the deal he’s admitted it.
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Wise Mountain Ape
Wise Mountain Ape@wildlowerwolves·
@JessicaTarlov @JohnJHarwood No it’s not. It’s embarrassing that we had to be punched in the nose in order to do what we should have done out of our own self-interest years ago, but it’s a win/win.
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Jessica Tarlov
Jessica Tarlov@JessicaTarlov·
So the MOU was exactly what everyone said it was. And it’s a disaster for us.
The Kobeissi Letter@KobeissiLetter

BREAKING: The US has released the full text of its 14-point "Memorandum of Understanding" with Iran. Key terms include: 1. The US, Iran, and their allies agree to immediately and permanently end military operations on all fronts, including in Lebanon 2. The US and Iran agree to respect each other's sovereignty and territorial integrity and not interfere in each other's internal affairs 3. The US and Iran commit to negotiating and reaching a final deal within 60 days, unless mutually extended 4. The US will begin removing its naval blockade immediately and fully end the blockade within 30 days 5. Iran will use its best efforts to ensure safe passage for commercial vessels through the Strait of Hormuz for 60 days with no charge 6. The US and regional partners will develop a mutually agreed plan of at least $300 billion for Iran's reconstruction and economic development 7. The US will work toward terminating all types of sanctions against Iran, including UN, IAEA, primary, and secondary sanctions 8. Iran reaffirms that it will not procure or develop nuclear weapons and agrees to address its enriched material stockpile under IAEA supervision 9. Until a final deal is reached, Iran will maintain the current status quo of its nuclear program, while the US will impose no new sanctions and deploy no additional forces 10. The US Treasury will issue waivers for Iranian crude oil, petroleum products, derivatives, and associated banking, insurance, and transportation services 11. The US will make frozen or restricted Iranian funds and assets fully available for use 12. The US and Iran will establish an executive mechanism to monitor implementation of the MOU and future compliance with the final deal 13. After signing the MOU and implementing key ceasefire, blockade, shipping, oil waiver, and asset-release provisions, the US and Iran will begin final deal negotiations 14. The final deal will be endorsed by a binding UN Security Council resolution The memorandum will trigger a 60-day window to negotiate a final deal.

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Wise Mountain Ape
Wise Mountain Ape@wildlowerwolves·
@Max_Fisher It’s fucking beautiful watching these bloodthirsty creeps’ decades-long dreams crumble into dust after seeing them intentionally destroy one diplomatic opening after another for 25 years to get to this point
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Max Fisher@Max_Fisher·
It’s very funny that ten years ago beltway chickenhawks adopted an unachievable phony demand to justify opposing the JCPOA, Trump didn’t realize it was fake and fought a war to get it, discovered it was unachievable, and is now giving the chickenhawks the worst day of their lives
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Wise Mountain Ape@wildlowerwolves·
@ZaidJilani No, they wanted us to blow up every power plant and water tank in the country, thus provoking Iran into retaliating and ending civilized human habitation of the Arabian Peninsula. Having turned the region into failed state disasters, Israel could reign unchallenged.
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Zaid Jilani
Zaid Jilani@ZaidJilani·
Israel is angry at the United States for Trumps deal, but what was the alternative? Did Israel want us to send 150,000 troops into Iran and endure thousands of casualties for them?
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Nikki Haley
Nikki Haley@NikkiHaley·
Hitting Iran’s nuclear and missile sites was the right move. This regime chants death to America, murders our troops, and attempts to assassinate Americans on U.S. soil. They believe they have an obligation to destroy us. Now, we plan to unlock billions of dollars and lift sanctions, with the promise of even more money. They will use that money the way they always do— to further their nuclear ambitions and on terrorist proxies against us. It’s a huge mistake to pay to rebuild the threat we just destroyed.
The Kobeissi Letter@KobeissiLetter

BREAKING: The US has released the full text of its 14-point "Memorandum of Understanding" with Iran. Key terms include: 1. The US, Iran, and their allies agree to immediately and permanently end military operations on all fronts, including in Lebanon 2. The US and Iran agree to respect each other's sovereignty and territorial integrity and not interfere in each other's internal affairs 3. The US and Iran commit to negotiating and reaching a final deal within 60 days, unless mutually extended 4. The US will begin removing its naval blockade immediately and fully end the blockade within 30 days 5. Iran will use its best efforts to ensure safe passage for commercial vessels through the Strait of Hormuz for 60 days with no charge 6. The US and regional partners will develop a mutually agreed plan of at least $300 billion for Iran's reconstruction and economic development 7. The US will work toward terminating all types of sanctions against Iran, including UN, IAEA, primary, and secondary sanctions 8. Iran reaffirms that it will not procure or develop nuclear weapons and agrees to address its enriched material stockpile under IAEA supervision 9. Until a final deal is reached, Iran will maintain the current status quo of its nuclear program, while the US will impose no new sanctions and deploy no additional forces 10. The US Treasury will issue waivers for Iranian crude oil, petroleum products, derivatives, and associated banking, insurance, and transportation services 11. The US will make frozen or restricted Iranian funds and assets fully available for use 12. The US and Iran will establish an executive mechanism to monitor implementation of the MOU and future compliance with the final deal 13. After signing the MOU and implementing key ceasefire, blockade, shipping, oil waiver, and asset-release provisions, the US and Iran will begin final deal negotiations 14. The final deal will be endorsed by a binding UN Security Council resolution The memorandum will trigger a 60-day window to negotiate a final deal.

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The Notorious S.E.B.
The Notorious S.E.B.@bigseb31213·
This is also something extremely alarming. The decision to go to war was political, but this was always the single most likely war for the US to fight on the planet. We should have had voluminous plans on what to do, every permutation intensively wargamed out
Christopher W. Jones@cwjones89

The failure to keep Hormuz open is a military failure. The US military had 35 years to plan for this. And their plan was to sink the Iranian Navy. Using ships + submarines was Iran's plan for closing Hormuz 20 years ago. But not today, which is why most ships never left port.

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Varad Mehta
Varad Mehta@varadmehta·
Worthy of impeachment and removal from office.
Joel Griffith@joelgriffith

Make no mistake: This MOU is a capitulation to the Iranian terrorist regime, potentially more dangerous than Obama's JCPOA. This will rejuvenate a terrorist regime with nuclear ambitions committed to global ideological domination through terrorism. 🚩Immediate lifting of the U.S. Naval blockade. 🚩Immediate sanctions waivers, worth $3 billion+ each month. This encompasses petrochemical products along with related banking and insurance services. 🚩NO prohibition on Iran imposing tolls through the Strait of Hormuz. 🚩NO prohibition in Iran's funding of terrorist proxies. 🚩NO agreed upon full dismantling of Iran's nuclear weapons program. 🚩NO agreed upon removal of the regime's enriched uranium. 🚩NO prohibition on uranium enrichment. 🚩NO mention of Iran's ballistic missile program. 🚩Attempts to force Israel into halting its fight against Hezbollah. 🚩Unfreezes $100 billion + of regime assets, nearly 2x the annual regime budget. 🚩Proposes at LEAST $300 billion (from non-U.S. sources) for the regime to "develop its economy." Because money is fungible, they will be equipped to rebuild their depleted missile program, fund Hezbollah and Hamas, and almost certainly advance their nuclear ambitions. Comparing this to the Marshall Plan is Orwellian. The Marshall Plan came after unconditional surrender and full eradication of the Nazi regime.

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Wise Mountain Ape
Wise Mountain Ape@wildlowerwolves·
@CoreyWriting No it’s not. Why would a country that was attacked twice in 9 months be behooved to disarm? Silly
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Not a Good Jewish Girl✡️
Not a Good Jewish Girl✡️@estherzelda0514·
This is the end of our close partnership with Israel. There is no chance in hell they do not view this as a profound betrayal and tacit support of the terrorist proxies trying to annihilate them. I am deeply concerned that Israel will retaliate by dumping every piece of damaging intelligence they have on this profoundly stupid administration.
Andrew Neil@afneil

The US has circulated its version of the Memo of Understanding with Iran to G7 leaders in France. It’s as bad if not worse than expected. — The moment it’s signed (Friday) sanctions on the export of Iran oil are lifted. So the regime can start replenishing its coffers immediately. — The US commits to doing nothing to undermine or destabilise the Iranian regime (it started the war to remove it). — The US specifically commits to ending its blockade of the Strait of Hormuz but Iran does not commit specifically to returning the Strait to toll/fee free transit exactly as before the war, with no Iranian control/regulation whatsoever . — All sanctions against Iran will be dropped should phase two negotiations go well. And America will withdraw its forces from the region. — The US ‘undertakes’ to work with Iran and Gulf allies to create a $300 billion reconstruction package for Iran. So America will now become a partner with the tyrants of Tehran, who Trump only recently wanted to overthrow, in rebuilding their economy. — All matters related to Iran’s nuclear capabilities are kicked into the ‘final agreement’ in 60 days time (or longer if necessary). — No mention of Iran’s ballistic missile capabilities or its financing of terrorist proxies. And that’s just about it. When Trump insisted the war would only end with ‘unconditional surrender’ it never crossed my mind he meant his own.

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Wise Mountain Ape
Wise Mountain Ape@wildlowerwolves·
@ReubenR80027912 Also, those “1000 targets a day!” was largely blowing our wad of standoff munitions turning large rocks into small rocks in a grimly funny effort to get at their launchers.
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Reuben Rodriguez
Reuben Rodriguez@ReubenR80027912·
@wildlowerwolves FWIW, the UAE was talking generational game when the war was at its apex…my fault was believing them
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Reuben Rodriguez
Reuben Rodriguez@ReubenR80027912·
I was bullish on the war when Trump was hitting *1,000 targets a day* and Bibi was saying “Iranians the time to rise up is nearly at hand” The day after Iranian citizens were *calling in drone hits on secret police thugs hiding under bridges* Trump backed off at behest of 🇹🇷🇶🇦🇵🇰
FlorBama Joe@florbamajoe

@ReubenR80027912 Haven’t checked in for a while. Do you still stand by your early Iran war cheerleading?

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