@IanH1963@tribunaltweets They're not the late witnesses. They were always going to be here. We don't know who the new ones are yet. (Or I don't cos I thought they were the new ones too)
We resume after a break for an issue with the bundle not containing all of the new pages
JR This is new evidence recently produced. The BGC from Jan 2024. We wont say others names. [reads re trans have all the rights and the only way we can get round this is ??]
LN The public need to know
JR talking in here
J Dont do this
NC U end w "she shld be struck off, I hope she is". So this is an attempt to end her career
LN I think its important for ppl to understand Sandies character. The bigotry she has doesnt have a place in nursing.
a PC cld be a HC. And DU has a PC.
JR Why do u think u were informed of the incident by KS?
MC As I'm an ED consultant. I'm one of the older consultants and ppl think I've experienced things others havent. Plus I'm dep clinical lead
We will shortly be live tweeting the afternoon session of day 8 of Peggie v Fife Health Board and Dr Upton to hear the examination of Dr Maggie Currer (MC), Deputy Clinical Lead). It is due to start at 2pm.
JR - don't believe there's been asymmetry, but Bench book contains how we should treat eachother in a prof context. When we are working together, not just right we treat eachother in accordance, it's also kind.
nothing further to say.
NC - nothing to add
J - ask the qu, slowly
Good afternoon.
This is the first afternoon session of the 7th Day of the July hearings of Peggie v NHS Fife and Dr Upton.
We anticipate restarting at 2pm
Please see earlier posts linked below for this mornings coverage, notices and abbreviations
KS - could infer
NC - not stated is it
KS - no
NC - you would have mentioned if you'd been told to shut it down - whole truth?
KS - I would have
NC - you aren't subject ot any disciplinary proceedings because of that email?
KS - no
NC - AG 18th ap to you - meeting invite,
KS - policy said intimidating or offensive in way you say, that's enough. If everyone was kind and said things another say there was no need for it to come to this.
NC - think briefly about another person, not a man who thinks/wishes he was a woman - a man in mans clothes - Pete
NC - incompetence or knowingly withhold
KS - did not withold
NC - asking trib to belive
KS - asking trib to believe anything, I did not find that email
NC A few qu about Rahana, the only witness other than DU or SP who can shed light on refusal to comm over patient who left
We resume
Picking up first thing you had heard about. (sound very poor)
LC - I don't recall anything being relayed to me at the time
CE - (again sound poor) p463
JR - refers to bundle - describes prioritising people and upholding dignity
JR - why this>?
LC - because we thought it was relevant because not respecting human rights
JR - P598 upholding reputation of profession
LC - act with honesty and integrity at all time
EP - don't sit around reading eamils all day
CE - you say you write emails as if they are going to be read?
EP - yes
CE - a prudent approach, suggest you knew replies to that email weren't appropriate and didn't reply.
EP - can't say, don't use as a conversation.
CE - no more qu
Women are organising. Now is the time for every political party to decide whether it wishes to protect the rights of 51% of the population, or continue to pander to gender activists.
thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/24628298.…
I keep thinking about the Unison ‘trans women are women’ successful vote yesterday.
From the ages of 16-20 I was a part-time checkout operator at Tesco.
If I had to change into my uniform I had to strip down to my underwear in a changing room like this one, only much smaller.
Occasionally, two or three of us would be squeezed in there, but it was fine. We’d nod, smile, chat if we knew each other. We had little to fear unless someone accidentally opened the door while one of us was undressed and a bloke from the shop floor might catch a glimpse. If a bloke DID try to come in, security cameras outside would hopefully see it and he’d be hauled out and hopefully sacked. In four years I was never aware of anything like this happening.
This week, the UK’s biggest union - who represents some of our lowest paid female workers - voted to allow men into that room if they uttered the words: ‘I identify as a woman’. No surgery required. No hormones. No lipstick. (NOT that that would make any difference). Trevor from the meat aisle could walk in one day and declare that he is now Tracey and he’d be allowed into the female changing room.
I think of my 16yo self, trying to earn some money (£2.07 an hour at the time) so I could save a bit of cash.
I think how scared she would have been if a man had walked in unchallenged while I was down to my underwear. How I would have frozen in fear, tried to cover myself up. I would never have been as brave as nurse Sandie Peggie, who is in the midst of a hellish employment tribunal over this very issue.
And even if I’d quietly expressed concern, I would have been called ‘bigot’ by my HR manager. My Union would do the same.
The reason I speak up so much on this is that I now have two daughters and four young nieces who might one day find themselves in this exact situation.
Do you stand with them and all the women and girls in your life? Or do you stand with these men? And the people, the unions, the organisations who are doing everything they can to help them access these spaces?
I have had a response from @ECB_cricket . Screenshots below. Pull up a chair people.
ECB tell us this is a "complex and multi-faceted issue".
Is it?
The Taliban are sending out their cricket team to play against England, whilst brutally oppressing every woman in Afghanistan, and you @ECB_cricket have decided to ignore those women and focus on the match. Turns out it wasn't so complex after all. You made a choice. It wasn't women.
When you say it is "completely heartbreaking" to see "gender apartheid" it does seem that your heart has recovered pretty quickly as you skip straight past why it was "broken".
You discuss taking a formal decision to play against the team of the Taliban barbarians, after speaking to a number of people and bodies. Which women's groups did you consult? A number have been asking to meet you.
It is unsurprising that the England men's team said they want to play cricket more than they wish to support the women being brutalised behind closed doors and bricked up windows. You can't hear or see those women, and the cricket pitch looks very attractive in the sunshine.
We don't think your hearts are breaking, we think you looked at how not to break into your bank account too much. £100k bought your hearts some peace very much cheaper than boycotting the match.
When you say you've looked at how to support the women of Afghanistan - you mean you decided the cheapest way was to support the women's exiled cricket team, a handful of women, rather than the 14 million women with zero human rights under the Taliban regime. This is an inhumanly cynical move.
Of course the exiled women's team want financial support, who can blame them? You are using those women, who just want to play cricket, to sell out other women, because what else can they do? They can't save the women of Afghanistan, and they are captive to whoever will help them.
You bought a small and desperate women's team and ignored a nation of women being oppressed. You put a cheap sticking plaster on a gaping wound.
It turns out that buying off any criticism came at a very low price. You have made no ongoing financial commitment. Your "stakeholders" must be breathing a sigh of relief and stocking up on champagne.
You've also helped the @ICC bend their own rules with your cash. The ICC have NOT committed to upholding their OWN criteria for including the Afghanistan men's team, which requires the TALIBAN'S support of a women's game. This is not provided by ECB chucking some spare cash at exiled women. You can't do the Taliban's job for them, just so that your match of betrayal is able to proceed. It stinks.
When you say you will "stand together" who are you standing with? You're a bit unclear, but it certainly isn't with women. Men standing with other men is unsurprising to any woman; the England team trotting out onto the pitch in Lahore isn't solidarity of any sort with the women of Afghanistan. It is a slap in an already bruised and bleeding face. The women of Afghanistan see you making nice with their oppressors. We all see it.
You talk of your "actions" which will show you support the women and girls of Afghanistan. Which actions? Playing cricket and collecting the cash? The only action you have taken is to ensure you play cricket, for the smallest cost, and with the flimsiest of words cast into the pit of hell which the women of Afghanistan fight to survive in.
You feel you have bought off public outrage, because you HAVE noticed the public outrage.
You have not. We will continue to turn up the heat of our outrage, because your empty gestures are an outrageous and egregious attempt to get people to look the other way whilst the women of Afghanistan are tortured.
We will not look the other way. Our eyes are firmly on you.
On the 25th of February, before you betray the women of Afghanistan, we will protest against your game. At 4pm we will meet at Lords to show the women of Afghanistan that they are not forgotten. Throughout your game we will stand with them, and we will be as loud as we know how to be. Your shameful treachery will spread around the world and the blood left on your hands will never be washed clean.
#ExpectUs
Jean Hatchet
@twelve0fiveUK#boycottafghancricket#BoycottAfghanistan#LetUsExist#LetThemExist
Female colleagues should never be expected to share changing facilities with male colleagues regardless of how they identify. It's wrong, and unlawful.
But that's what happened to Sandie Peggie, a nurse working for NHS Fife.
@arrivanortheast first time getting bus in forever and it takes the wrong turn and drives straight past everyone waiting at the Flass Inn stop. Cheers guys! And then people wonder why no one uses the bus!!! Useless 🙄