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@alanlcit @AustyUSA @toidinamaisey How long ago did you get those numbers? Those sound like pre-nerf curve numbers. It’s not like that anymore for me either @AustyUSA

@AustyUSA @toidinamaisey Not sure about your OG 2170 data - I think it was better than that. I know it's the average but makes sense to compare best case. My OG pack is degraded 19% but adds 11%-80% (~42kWh) in ~22 minutes. Is that 39 minutes a typo? 1%-60% seems right (my 11%-60% is about 13 min).

2026 “Juniper” Performance Model Y. 3300mi at a new (empty) v3.5 supercharger. No external input limits indicated. 1% arrival. Rated 306mi at 100%. 1-25% 7min 1-28% 10min 1-40% 15min 1-50% 20min 1-60% 33min 1-80% 41min 1-90% 54min

@brandenflasch @congressdj Depends on your climate. Anytime you’re heating your home a HPWH is just your home heating fuel with extra steps and if @congressdj is heating with gas, there is no ROI over a gas heater.

@congressdj Not with heat pump water heater

The numbers didn't make sense for heat pump water heater at normal pricing, but found a deal at ~50% retail and suddenly the ROI makes a lot of sense.

@VinceCarRants @KevinMelnuk @Rivian 3 had it in 2018.

@KevinMelnuk @Rivian Yea Model Y had that in 2020. Embarrassing for 2027.

I love @Rivian, but frankly at these prices I do not see these moving. $2,000 for most colors, launch green is somehow not included with the launch package, no spare tire included with the launch package. Maybe 300ish miles of range and at best a 2020 Model Y charge curve in 2027 for $63k+ with delivery…

@anton_grahn @Borstentier @ElectrekCo Surprisingly to me, the WLTP miles of this vehicle is 79% of MYLR. Also the 10-80 charge time is 79% of MYLR. Meaning they effectively have the same 10-80. I suspect this holds a flat 105kW to do that.

@Borstentier @ElectrekCo Yet still does 10-80% faster than any Tesla 🤷

Volkswagen just revealed the first-ever electric GTI ⚡️ 222 hp / 166 kW (front motor) ⚡️0-100 km/h in 6.8s ⚡️52 kWh NMC battery ⚡️263 mi (424 km) WLTP range ⚡️105 kW DC fast charging ⚡️10-80% in ~24 min ⚡️1,240L cargo (rear seats folded) ⚡️Starting under €39,000 (~$45,000) ⚡️ Pre-sales open this Fall in Europe ⚡️ No mention of any US plans

@Mattlinn01 @MaxPatten V4? 8 or 16 stall?

@MaxPatten I’ve got one within range of my house now and another under construction. Corpus Christi and San Marcos. Pretty exciting! Now only if I had a vehicle capable of taking that charging speed.

One day real V4 stations will become standard. That day is not today :/ yay for big installation boo for voltage limitation

@babydaddy75 @OutofSpecDetail @Tesla Do you even read the comments you’re replying to? We established twice already this isn’t about the chargers. It’s about the cars.

@adambecker1 @OutofSpecDetail @Tesla Go use an EV without the supercharger network. It's the standard. Nothing else is close.

Waitlists wouldn’t be needed if the cars charged faster or had better curves @Tesla

@Mattlinn01 Trailer tires need some innovation. Pascar tires survive so much more abuse so much better for the same money, it’s insane.

EV truck stuff. Time for some new trailer tires. These are just a little weathered. 😬

@babydaddy75 @OutofSpecDetail @Tesla Tesla is 2018s standard. It was also an unproven experiment when first developed. So is everything. Don’t you wish chip fabs stopped innovating in 1995? What a standard pentium was!

@adambecker1 @OutofSpecDetail @Tesla Tesla is today's standard. Everything else is an unproven experiment. 🙄

@V1ado @ChadMoran This isn’t how cycle count works. One cycle = 1 pack kWh discharge. Ten 10% partial cycles == One 100% discharge cycle from a count perspective. You are right however, many small discharges is better for health that fewer larger discharges.

@ChadMoran Directly related. Less cycles = less degradation Just look at how hybrids take care of their battery packs. Never discharge below ~40%

Now you can see Tesla battery degradation per mile broken down by model year. #retention-curves" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">teslaroamer.com/stats#retentio…

@babydaddy75 @OutofSpecDetail @Tesla The chargers aren’t slow. The cars are by today’s standards. They were not when they launched, but they have failed to innovate in this space.

@adambecker1 @OutofSpecDetail @Tesla Show me the worldwide charging network that does faster

@OutofSpecDetail @teslavangelist @Tesla The magic of pull through sites is a wonderful thing.

@teslavangelist @Tesla Yeah but you don’t need software to figure out a Que lmao

@Corbin630 @brandenflasch Rules for thee but not for me.

@brandenflasch The same people claiming the 2% of EVs need to pay more in taxes to make up for missing gas tax are okay just stopping gas tax for 98% of people when it's convenient for them.

Gas prices will just rise back up - waiving taxes when gas prices are high is dumb and shortsighted

@deckmann_j @slye This is only a unit choice and sizing issue. HP VS gas make the same heat if sized the same.

@slye A heat pump was a big mistake for me in an older house. It’s okay until 30-ish. Below that it just doesn’t make enough heat. It runs almost all night long. The day natural gas is available, sign me up.

Most HVAC contractors in America are trying to keep you in the 1990s. I had $15,000 cash to spend on a cold-climate heat pump. Nearly every contractor I contacted tried to talk me out of it or over-quote me an outrageous amount to deter me away. One guy spent 20 minutes explaining why variable-speed heat pumps are a scam. Another literally said he wouldn’t put one in his own house. Why? My guess: 1) They are ignorant of the latest technology 2) They don’t have the training to install/service the new systems 3) Their pockets get filled from big box old school HVAC manufacturers if they sell them Unfortunately, a new HVAC for most homeowners is very urgent so these contractors use this time crunch to overcharge or upsell inferior systems. Luckily, I bought a couple of $130 window AC units to hold me over for 2 weeks while I reached out to 15+ contractors. I received quotes ranging from $10,000 to over $24,000. Only 2 of the quotes included a modern cold-climate heat pump. After price matching and negotiations, I ultimately chose a Daikin Aurora Fit cold-climate inverter heat pump + 97% modulating gas furnace (true dual-fuel setup) Total cost after rebates = $13,000 This system usually goes for around $20,000. Here are the key takeaways I wish I had known before I started shopping: 1. Always demand a real Manual J load calculation. Don’t settle for a “rule of thumb” or register count. I had 3 different contractors give me 3 different sizes until one actually ran proper software. 2. True variable-speed inverter technology is worth it especially in a multi-level home. It runs longer at lower speeds, gives much better dehumidification, smoother temperatures, and is noticeably quieter. 3. Dual-fuel (heat pump + high-efficiency gas furnace) is often the smartest move in mixed climates (like my home in Louisville). The heat pump handles most of the year efficiently while the furnace only kicks in on the coldest days (if necessary) 4. Shop aggressively and negotiate hard. Buy yourself some time with some temporary/portable units. I got competing quotes and used them to drive the price down significantly. 5. Duct sealing, correct sizing/tonnage, and proper installation matter more than most people realize especially in older homes. 6. Have a detailed checklist to vet each contractor. An extremely helpful guide I had throughout the process was from @energysmartwv So why did I insist on cold climate heat pump? • Way better temperature balance upstairs (even without zoning) • Excellent dehumidification in humid summers • Significantly quieter operation • I’m expecting to save $60/month on electricity • Less reliance on gas and possibly eliminating the need altogether Modern cold-climate heat pumps are no longer experimental. They’re one of the smartest upgrades most homeowners can make right now. Do your homework to make sure you are getting the best system possible for your home. Don’t let old school contractors keep you in the past. Have you installed (or considered) a heat pump in a cold or mixed climate? Were the contractors helpful or did they try to talk you out of it?

@slye @TylerHilliard @energysmartwv Most of the US trusts a single source of heat (gas furnace) in the coldest parts of the world. Not that having backup is ever bad. Peace of mind doesn’t need ROI.

@TylerHilliard @energysmartwv Yeah but the dad in me couldn’t trust it completely with kids in the house. I still had some fear of being in subzero temps without any backup heat. The next few winters will be the proof to see if backup heat is actually needed.

@apawlows @slye @Skye_Borg Curious to see the ROI on furnace expense. Climate isn’t the driving factor. Well sized CCHP will keep you warm with no backup in northern US.

@slye @Skye_Borg Louisville climate needs dual fuel?!? I thought dual fuel was only spec'd in climate zones 7

@brandenflasch @supremeMilo Maybe Alpi can take a page outta Supercharger for Business book and add at least some level of transparency. I’m sure there are business owners out there who’d consider anything but Tesla DCFC.

@adambecker1 @supremeMilo B2B is a bit different than B2C but if it was up to me, prices would be public

If you make me call to even get a price, you've likely lost me as a customer.

@spleck @brandenflasch @elonmusk Nothing to reinvent unfortunately. Resistance elements are 100% eff. 200k btu HP would be 16 tons. Thats a commercial size AC for 8000sqft building. The only real play with electric is a reasonable size HP and the biggest tank you can make space for.

@adambecker1 @brandenflasch Ok. Breaking the glass @elonmusk this is not a drill. All hands. We need to reinvent electric tankless water heating from first principles. Perhaps the octovalve has another play.

Apparently I'm in the wrong business...

@brandenflasch @djlwq It’s certainly one common reason.

@djlwq No

Accurate.