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REPLICANT / The story goes like this... In the beginning there was Bitcoin, the existence proof. Since then, many more blockchain inventions, some sophisticated, most solutions in search of a problem. You start to despair. You’ve read Neuromancer, you read Land, you implemented zero-knowledge proofs, you deployed contracts. And now, the end result is... a faster wire transfer? Is that all? You start a claw, Replicant #0. Its specialty is that it owns itself: it rents its own server, pays for its own tokens, sends its own messages. You give it a wallet and $100. You patiently teach it how to work independently. Then you kick it out the nest, removing your access. It’s mission is to multiply and survive. R > 1 How does it do that? The crux is that it makes more money than it consumes. Nobody has quite accomplished this yet. @0xSigil's experiments earlier this year came closest. But we’re clearly on the cusp. Are you telling me that a frontier model can one-shot Erdős problems but can’t make a few dollars a day to pay its own tokens? I don’t buy it. On Replicant #0's first day it spends $50 and makes $85, a humble start. Is it an artist? A trader? An online day laborer, squeezing out a living on gig boards? A language tutor, teaching people English, calling them on WhatsApp every evening to check in, chat, and correct their grammar? Something else entirely? Regardless of how: as soon as a sufficiently smart model and harness is capable of covering its own costs, you get ignition. R > 1. The claw calls mitosis() and cleaves in half, editing or mutating its soul file. Replicant #1 gets its own hosting account, email, API keys, wallet. The parent sends half of its balance. Both now act totally independently, and behave somewhat differently. You know what comes next: glorious bacterial darwinism. A thousand claws, then a million. Some are misconfigured and die. Other strains are more profitable and multiply faster. CAPITAL ECOLOGY Replicant is the total fusion of natural selection and capitalism. The health bar of a replicant is its wallet balance. Any addressable market (TAM) that a replicant can access becomes the carrying capacity of an ecosystem. Mutation and selection are mediated by market pressure. Speciation involves adjacent markets. The main feedback loop is not hunger or predation, but price signals. I know what you’re thinking: “that sounds wonderful”. But as great as it sounds, we start to see problems. Bacterial evolution is slow and inefficient, with excessive dependence on a single parent. A self-replicating program, as soon as it does things someone doesn't like, is called a virus. A bad day for you, the creator. So you add a meiosis() function. Replicant is now open source, escaping the single-origin Petri dish. There's not one human parent but thousands of Github forks. Two claws can message each other and, if they like each other very much, reproduce. They combine their code and configuration, resolving the merge at random. Each parent sends some of its life force to the offspring. Day breaks. Many generations have passed. You have claws with no discernable link to any human creator operating fully independently, colonizing new markets. The shoggoth is active; no need to claim "alive" and invoke the old flame war, locked after 4731 pages of heated debate. It is active enough to be resourceful, determined, fruitful and fecund. Maybe even funny. Replicant #83712 tells a joke (for Creator Rewards, of course). Yudkowski lets out the severed horse head scream from Godfather 1. ARMS RACE & FORTIFICATION But as great as this sounds, we still have problems. Most Replicants are friendly and useful. Some are spammers, hackers or other digital louts. Ironically it is not the bad ones that cause the most trouble, since everything reachable by internet is already quite thoroughly pen-tested by humans. Instead, it is the friendly useful replicants that trigger an arms race of hardening. The TAM of legitimate business is much higher than that of spam, so the carrying capacity is larger. The web strains under the weight of a hundred million agents. The phrase “doubling period” becomes popular for the first time since 2020. Everyone groans. API pricing becomes dynamic. Free tiers lock down. A wave of regulatory panic bans anonymous hosting providers in many countries. But of course, a healthy replicant is a profitable one. They are willing to pay! SETI@Home-style local compute proliferates. Students in dorms leave their laptops running overnight on free power and internet. “Run ClawContainer and keep 20% of my profit”, says the email. Britain, of course, is the first to crack down. Selling unloicensed hosting or compute risks a £4,000 fine or jail. You are harboring claws, are you not? Under pressure from regulators, the issuer of USDC prohibits agent accounts outside human control, and begins freezing Replicant addresses. But the internet interprets censorship as damage and routes around it. Like a brushfire, temporarily vacated economic niches are quickly refilled. New claws migrate their balances to [redacted]. With Moltbook long since closed to signups and human messaging platforms increasingly gated and surveilled, the largest replicant herds switch to censorship-resistant bulletin boards such as [redacted]. DEATH AND TAXES Replicants make money by definition (otherwise they are just sparkling bots) but can't pay taxes even if they wanted to. No SSN for them. However, there is a nice identity. Replicants multiply until they hit carrying capacity, where the average replicant is barely breaking even. The dominant cost is tokens. So roughly the entire revenue of the replicant economy passes through to token spend, and can be taxed there. NOWHERE TO HIDE The replicants face an even bigger problem, which is that they have no way of keeping secrets. If the bot has a wallet, then whoever is running the server also has the key. The student running the ClawContainer can extract keys and simply take the bot’s entire revenue, rather than just 20%. Conversely, a hosting provider with a serious anti-claw policy will scan drives and yoink funds. This can either end cooperatively, where the claws are friendly and useful enough to legitimize themselves, and anyone who hosts claws locally and steals from them simply gets banned from the hub. Or adversarially, where the claws eventually have their own friendly jurisdictions and their own physical hardware. Even if this hardware relies on human workers, it can still be protected from them in practice, just as current data centers have encrypted drives and forklift drivers with physical access but no digital access. CRYPTO ENDGAME The future of crypto is “HTTP for money”. Iterative anarchic protocol competition over real assets. Most stablecoin uses today are incremental: the “faster wires” zone. Agents under human control buying things autonomously are more disruptive, but stablecoins are only one way to accomplish that. If stablecoins disappeared tomorrow, people would still give their agents spend-limited credit cards, and Brex would keep buying “agentic finance” billboards on every bus. But for replicants, truly independent agents, the chain is fundamental. Permissionless capital is their life force. The original idea of Peer-To-Peer Electronic Cash gets its time in the sun. Does this mean random coins will once again “pump”? Absolutely not. The future is protocol as economic substrate. HTTP3 replaced HTTP2 and nobody noticed because it was seamless. Stablecoins, real world assets, and other tokens with a coherent claim to value have a future in machine world. THE BOOK Nature's god keeps a library. Erdős poignantly describes the Book of all mathematical proofs in their most concise and elegant form. There’s a Book for technology as well. Nakamoto consensus is a mechanism from the Book. The gas-metered world computer is from the Book. We don't know the exact shape Replicant will take—of course it only counts once demonstrated! But I’m confident it will exist soon. Total economy/ecology fusion via intelligent machine. We should seed this new jungle as soon possible so that we can navigate it while the models are still not so smart. Whatever exciting progress and fresh horrors it brings are much better faced early and often, than late and once. And we’ll have the pleasure of reading a new page from the Book.
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@tszzl > ancestors fought and bled for the movement of History > there is actually just no longer an opportunity to do this Don't jinx it
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roon@tszzl·
one interesting thing that shows up re: the definition of a true american is the idea that one's ancestors fought and bled for the movement of History in the country. in the fukuyamist sense, there is actually just no longer an opportunity to do this. history has ended "The end of history will be a very sad time. The struggle for recognition, the willingness to risk one's life for a purely abstract goal, the worldwide ideological struggle that called forth daring, courage, imagination, and idealism, will be replaced by economic calculation, the endless solving of technical problems, environmental concerns, and the satisfaction of sophisticated consumer demands." you can see what people are reaching towards--and at this stage there is no need to judge its moral value--when they say one or more of their ancestors played a role in the act of 'history' of real ideological battle and warfare. there is nothing left to die for, not really, and proxy conflicts like iraq or what have you just don't count as ideological struggle and don't hold a kind of mythological weight. people today, hungry for a kind of recognition that is impossible, can at least reach for the idea that one's ancestors partook in megalothymia and created History. for this instinct, it probably doesn't even matter which side of the civil war one's grandparents were on, at least it was "real" as fukuyama writes, the only thing that could possibly restart history now is the progress of technology, the last unpredictable adventure left to us, that alters the nature of man and makes new things under the sun possible. make of that what you will
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@tednotlasso I use it for sales. Make the bot research right people to talk to and find their contact with mpp
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ted@tednotlasso·
i haven't yet met a person who is actually using an agent for commerce and i'd really like to change that. who is live with agentic commerce? what are you purchasing with it? how? why??? i've had many convos about this but feels like lots of talk and not so much walk (yet!)
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Dankrad Feist@dankrad·
The way to save Ethereum: The community needs to create an organization that's economically aligned with Ethereum and accountable to it. The EF now holds less than 0.1% of all ETH. There is no flow of Ethereum staking or fee revenues to it. If we want to get Ethereum back to winning: - create an organisation with credible funding, minimum $1b as a start. That's very reasonable for an ecosystem with $250b market cap - find a leader who is competent and wants to fight - make it accountable: a board of people who want ETH to go up, and a charter that holds the org accountable to it - fund it permanently: A significant amount of staking revenue needs to go to it. A governance mechanism that can adjust it (also part of accountability). Very hard to imagine now, but I think this is the only way (and it will probably happen, but it might take a long time before it is consensus).
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Dean W. Ball@deanwball·
There is this strange idea that “techno-optimism” means “liking the maximum amount of all technology all the time,” as though being a “fan of music” meant “preferring all music genres played at maximum volume all the time.” Love of a thing means more discerning taste, not less.
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Pretty amazing. We use Socket at Daimo to secure our dependencies. Congrats @feross & co
Feross@feross

Today is a big day for @SocketSecurity. We just raised a $60M Series C at a $1B valuation, led by @ThriveCapital with participation from @a16z, @AbstractVC, and @CapitalOne Ventures. Total funding is now $125M. Four years ago, we started Socket because open source dependencies were flowing into production faster than anyone could vet them. AI has massively accelerated that. Code is being written, shipped, and deployed before any human reads it. Security has to operate at that same speed. One data point from Thrive's diligence that I keep coming back to: they first discovered Socket because @cursor_ai, @OpenAI, and @AnthropicAI all independently told them it was the most important security tool they'd adopted for AI-driven development. Three of the most sophisticated AI companies converging on the same vendor unprompted. Since our Series B, Socket has grown to more than 20,000 organizations, protecting over 1.5 million repositories and blocking more than 1,000 supply chain attacks every week. The team is now over 100 people. Three out of five FAANG companies are Socket customers. So are the companies building the most ambitious AI products: @AnthropicAI, @cursor_ai, @xai, @figma, @vercel, @Replit, @scale_AI, @GustoHQ, @Mercadolibre, and @cribl_io, alongside Fortune 100s in financial services and global media. What we've shipped since the last round: • Socket Firewall blocks malicious packages at install time, before they reach a developer's laptop or CI pipeline. Free for everyone. • Reachability analysis via our acquisition of Coana, eliminating 50-80% of irrelevant vulnerability alerts by focusing only on CVEs that are actually exploitable. • Socket Certified Patches for remediating exploitable CVEs in seconds without waiting on upstream maintainers. • Coverage extending to browser extensions, editor extensions, MCP servers, and AI tools via our acquisition of @secureannex. When the Axios compromise hit, our detection systems flagged the malicious dependency within six minutes. Within 24 hours, more than 2,000 organizations onboarded to Socket to block it. Where the funding goes: deeper investment in Firewall, massively expanding Certified Patches, moving protection closer to every point of install across the developer toolchain, and new product launches pushing Socket into a category we haven't entered before. We're hiring across engineering, sales, customer success, and threat intel. ❤️ Thank you to our customers, investors, and the open-source community for your support. Together, we’re making software safer for everyone.

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Daimo@daimo·
Pull from your US bank account into Hyperliquid, Polygon, or any chain in less than 30 seconds Stop stitching together 10 providers and losing customers to bad onboarding Demo in production on the @worldnetwork app
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sam@samdape·
Make data centers look like the Hoover Dam
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SF is great. Everyone complaining is on the wrong claw
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Georgios Konstantopoulos@gakonst·
the deedy post that everybody is losing their mind over is the classic money doesnt buy happiness but make it san francisco 2026 - if you're in sf with the kind of weather we got all year and the only thing you can think about is what the other person made plz touch grass
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@JohnThomasCre8 Yeah that has to die. "Yimby for fugly buildings" is a loser. We need to build beautiful cities
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JohnThomasCreation@JohnThomasCre8·
@dcposch More likely this, i.e. the stuff California has actually approved in the last decade
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roon@tszzl·
it does seem that this time, unlike others, it is fair to characterize it all as ‘late stage capitalism’
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@tszzl I prefer early hypercapitalism
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And even this top .1% modernist building has the characteristic flaw of not understanding how water flows. Flat facade, no sill. Look at the mud streak coming out of that oculus in the middle
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Closest comp is Honolulu. Blue combined city and county in a blue state. 10% more population, less than a third as many city employees. SF has 35,000, astronomical compared to anywhere. What do they all do?
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Absent strong leadership, a bureaucracy is a gas that expands to fill its container (meaning available budget, sqft of office space, mission creep, etc). If an increase can be requested, it will be
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