@pjozolin @JadeAtrophis “Normal map where people live” says person who doesn’t live
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Ross Steinborn
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Ross Steinborn
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Father of 3. domestic violence advocate @HarvardDivinity Alum, theology, politics, philosophy-- Not necessarily in that order. views are mine
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@JadeAtrophis There is a pretty big city right on the intersection of 11 and 14. 12 - Charlotte, is bigger that its boundaries, basicaly all suburbs are cut into 14, 10, 6 snd 8. There is a city right between 10, 14 and 5.
Yea, normal map where people live, sure.
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Notice how this looks like a normal map of where people live?
And not an insane mess of zig zags and squiggles?
Carolina Forward@ForwardCarolina
Absolutely none of these unserious and unprincipled people have ever had a problem with North Carolina Republicans' egregious partisan gerrymandering in our state. They're not against map-rigging - they're just shocked and appalled when it's Democrats doing it.
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@JadeAtrophis Even though NC’s map looks compact, analyses show it consistently produces ~10–11 GOP seats in a 50/50 state by packing Democratic voters into a few districts and spreading the rest—classic gerrymandering.
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@ashleymoirDC @MattWhitlock Yes it’s an absurd Gerrymander and it’s about damn time Democrats start fighting fire with fire
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The final results being this close just reaffirms that the 6-5 congressional map was an accurate depiction of how the commonwealth actually votes.
The fact that Arlington will now be split into 5 districts is absolutely mind blowing.
Decision Desk HQ@DecisionDeskHQ
What happened in Virginia's redistricting vote? Yes won by about 3 points, 51.5%-48.5%. If the VA Supreme Court does not invalidate the vote, it will mean a new Dem congressional gerrymander. Still, No did better than the GOP in 2024 or 2025 attorney general race.
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@Rational_Raven @JimHansonDC Yeah! I don’t know where that data is coming from as most major analyses (like the Brennan Center) find Republicans currently (2024) have about a net 10–16 seat advantage in the House due to district maps.
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@JimHansonDC Jim, if republicans thought this would really net them even one seat, they would put this to a vote TODAY and call Dem’s bluff. JFC he thinks we’re worse than stupid.
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Yes I support eliminating gerrymandering nationwide.
It is wrong,
What most people fail to grasp as they are purposely misinformed by the Left & media.
This would actually net seats for Republicans as Dems have more stolen districts.
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@greatimp @greendragonhq Massachusetts lack of GOP seats isn’t mainly due to gerrymandering It’s due to how voters are spatially distributed
Please see “Locating the Representational Baseline: Republicans in Massachusetts” by Moon Duchin and collaborators.
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@greendragonhq Dude you need to check Deleware, Massachusetts, California, Vermont. You are spewing bullshit
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Top ten most gerrymandered states according to GROK.
🔴North Carolina
🔴Texas
🔴Florida
🔵Illinois
🔵Maryland
🔴Ohio
🔴Wisconsin
🔴South Carolina
🔴Georgia
🔴Pennsylvania
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@Legal_Fil You do release that republicans currently you should both houses of congress and the White House. If the dem ban wasn’t clean Why don’t they propose a clean national ban? I bet they could get some Dems to support it!
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Again, this is a talking point for uneducated people by people lacking integrity.
The proposal was larded with elements that Dems knew Republicans would never accept. It was just an exercise to give people like Yglesias a fake cudgel. Yglesias knows this but does not care.
Matthew Yglesias@mattyglesias
Again, if Republicans want to stop partisan gerrymandering they should vote for Democrats’ proposal for a national ban on partisan gerrymandering. If they don’t want to stop it, then stop whining.
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@MattWhitlock Seems to me the Texas mid-cycle scheme was the last straw and Dems across the board figured they should stop unilaterally disarming because in the last 2 decades republicans have never been reciprocal.
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I like Josh but disagree
Virginia had a constitutional amendment banning gerrymandering with 65% support - they threw it out like bad takeout
Dems don’t want a pure gerrymandering ban - it’s always just a new way of gerrymandering + something dumb like forced ballot harvesting
Josh Barro@jbarro
The whining from Republicans here is just preposterous. Democrats remain willing to prohibit gerrymandering nationally. Republicans thought they were better off fighting this battle state-by-state and are sore that that wasn't true.
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@EWErickson Well Dems have introduced bills in 2017, 2019, 2021, 2022, 2024 & 2025
In fact the redistricting reform act of 2025 was reintroduced and could be brought to the floor right now.
Maybe the GOP should bring it to the floor, call Dem’s bluff if you think they are in fact bluffing
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Democrats don't really want a national ban on gerrymandering in large part because both Democrat and Republican data experts agree it would hurt the Democrats. It's a talking point. In California, their nonpartisan gerrymandering board was packed with Democrats, some of whom just claimed to be Republicans to get on the board.
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@BlueShellOp @RocksTorum @BachmannRudi They tried in 2017, 2019, 2021,2022, 2024, 2025
And a redistricting reform bill of 2025
Was reintroduced and could be brought to the floor right now, but the GOP like whining more than fixing the system
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@RocksTorum @BachmannRudi LMFAO Democrats tried to vote to get rid of gerrymandering in 2021 GUESS WHO SHOT IT DOWN. Fucking hypocrite ass whiny bitches.
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Can conservatives from the US explain to me why the VA gerrymander (which was approved by voters) is not OK, while the one in TX and others in the South are? Please make a serious, good-faith effort. No German random posters please.
PS: I think all gerrymandering is bad.
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@BAYCBoshi @RocksTorum @BachmannRudi Democrats have tried in 2017, 2019, 2021, 2022, 2024, and 2025.
In fact, The redistricting reform act of 2025 was reintroduced and is currently awaiting congressional approval. Which it won’t get because republicans won’t support it
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@RocksTorum @BachmannRudi Democrats tried this in 2022 and GOP voted it down. FAFO.
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@Notabot1185810 @BachmannRudi Why is it (always) the Dems role to
Deescalate?
In my 20 Years of political consciousness
Democrats were always expected to deescalate political fights stated by Republicans. I’m kind of glad Dems have began to try something different
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@BachmannRudi Neither are ok, but VA is much worse than TX, both in process and in outcome. The real problem is that it intensifies the fight and will radicalize more republicans to support gerrymandering efforts by the GOP.
After VA this is a blood-feud with no offramp in sight.
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@decunningham2 Republicans currently hold both houses of Congress and the presidencySo they could propose something different but instead they are just whining about Dems winning the game they stared
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Democrats do not have an actual, standalone proposal to ban partisan gerrymandering that does not involve California-style independent commissions - which no Republican in Congress would likely vote for.
Matthew Yglesias@mattyglesias
Again, if Republicans want to stop partisan gerrymandering they should vote for Democrats’ proposal for a national ban on partisan gerrymandering. If they don’t want to stop it, then stop whining.
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@DefiyantlyFree This is just untrue.
Texas gop and Trump began this current mid-cycle redistticting fight. Republicans are just mad because Dems are playing hardball and winning the game that republicans started
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Yeah, Republicans and Democrats both engaged in gerrymandering. Here’s the difference democrats always take it to the next level. They literally obliterate any and every single normal boundary to usurp power.
I can now say that after looking at the actual numbers. And that’s the difference is one party has absolutely no moral dividing line and they are willing to do anything for power.
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@richardbridd21 @mattyglesias @Hale_Storm @grok Not necessarily: there is also Fair Representation Act: Would require independent commissions + multi-member districts
Introduced 2017, 2019, 2021, 2024, 2025
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@mattyglesias @Hale_Storm Are you talking about the We The People Act Matt?
Hey @grok, the We The People Act proposed by Democrats in Congress, is it a simple one item ban on partisan gerrymandering nationally, or does it do more? List the other things it does.
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Again, if Republicans want to stop partisan gerrymandering they should vote for Democrats’ proposal for a national ban on partisan gerrymandering.
If they don’t want to stop it, then stop whining.
CJ Pearson@Cjpearson
It's still just completely insane that Democrats were allowed to write a ballot question that says "restore fairness" and have the result create this lobster-like monstrosity of a congressional district.
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@mattyglesias @Hale_Storm Right. I think Dems finally realized that anything other than a national
Ban is just unilateral disarmament and the GOP hasn’t even pretended to reciprocate in the last 2
Decades.
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@Hale_Storm Yes.
Here is my entire argument about Virginia gerrymandering:
Democrats have repeatedly proposed a national gerrymandering ban. If Republicans are mad about gerrymandering, they should say yes and bad it. If not, they should shut up.
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@PatrickRuffini It only works if it’s national. Anything else is unilateral disarmament. Dems have tried that (CA, VA, MI,
Colorado) with little
To no reciprocity.
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Re: Just pass a national gerrymandering ban.
Virginia had a gerrymandering ban.
How did that go?
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@AngelaBelcamino Another way to look at it is that Dems have spent the last 2 Decades playing nice: trying regulate gerrymandering through legislation (dozens of Dems bills with no gop support) and some unilateral disarmament with GOP Giving no reciprocity, so now They are just playing hardball
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Democrats rail against gerrymandering—until it benefits them. Just look at Virginia.
Using Texas as the example while doing the same thing is peak hypocrisy.
Nothing’s uglier than…
“it’s fine when my side does it.”
Power over principles—every time.
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@tubes12 @TheModerateCase Agreed.
Dems spent the last 30
Years of my life trying to regulate gerrymandering through compromise legislation, the courts and some states unilaterally disarming, but that didn’t work, so now they are playing hardball.
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@TheModerateCase There's no hope of banning gerrymandering if Republicans have no reason to want to ban it. Republicans need to be hurt by gerrymandering, and hurt badly, for them to want to ban it.
Every vote to ban gerrymandering has been down party lines.
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Voters sent you a clear message as well, hypocrite.
Kamala Harris@KamalaHarris
Donald Trump and Republicans have tried to rig the 2026 midterms. Today in Virginia, voters sent them a clear message: The power is with the people.
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@Fair_and_Biased Yeah. The TX mid-cycle re-districting scheme was the final straw, Dems have started playing hardball
Bet gop is regretting not supporting one of the dozens of anti-gerrymandering bills Dems have proposed over yit last decade
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Gerrymandering is always a problem.
I think you’re seeing more pearl clutching about VA, though, bc none of the recent Republican gerrymandering disenfranchised voters this much.
VA voted 48% against this measure, but now only 10% of VA conservatives will have a voice at all.
Billy Binion@billybinion
I'm not a fan of gerrymandering. But I'm still waiting for a convincing explanation for why it’s a “threat to democracy” when Democrats do it and mysteriously fine when Republicans do. The extremely blatant double standard is a bit much.
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@DefiantOutlawX Glad you’ve finally figured out gerrymandering is bad. I bet you all regret not supporting any of the dozen or so anti-Gerrymandering bill Dems have sponsored in Congress over the past 10
Years.
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