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TriedByStats@triedbystats·
I think this is a particularly revealing thread. “Even in definitive” air embolism cases. In other words in cases of air embolism that have actual signs of air embolism, such as frothy blood. The “Chester cases” are excluded from this characterisation because not one of them had frothy blood. None of the “definitive” signs of air embolism apply. Then this speculation on locked air disappearing. Explaining away the gaps in this theory.
Paul Clarke@drpaulclarke

@maggiem67582865 Maybe RV locked air can ‘disappear’ into the arterial system. Who knows? It’s not always found at autopsy even in definitive VAE/AAE cases. Regarding specifically the Chester babies, no comment. That is entirely for the Court.

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@drpaulclarke @DebbieKennett U told The Mail, “Both these cases provide clear-as-day evidence that venous air embolism can rapidly become arterial air embolism and so cause rapid onset skin rash.” Why, as a doctor, do you not understand the difference between a rash and mottling? I doubt you will respond.
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Mephitis@Mephitisblog·
There is no agenda. Shoo Lee is saying that if they find no evidence of inflicted harm, they may be her last hope. If they find evidence of inflicted harm, they won't be. Completely reasonable. I don't even think the Crown's barrister would even go there. @cjsnowdon
Richard Horrocks@RichardHor54460

@cjsnowdon He knows there is no evidence that the babies were murdered or harmed deliberately. No murders mean no murderer. I don't think it's unreasonable to be disturbed that someone is wrongly imprisoned for life. thejusticegap.com/in-summary-lad…

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@jolt4321 @iknowiwasthere @MarshallJarman @DebRoberts22249 @DJBandana @spiralofpurity @dc_ethan1 @littlegurrier @mellycatslave @PaulBut38752753 @Sunraged @GeorgeT43375501 @NeilRos55889793 @IainCrawford @BrocqChristine @Matthew94583525 @BullingdonAlex @Sunnanbyrg @benshep20 @Philbean12344 @berrysurviving @oldjamfan @getagripwillya @noBWrexit @Mads7Mads7 @pope2023 @ShooLeeNOT @TerrorTimeBaby @regnarGhtieK @jontay44 @RachelHale9920 @SaraG_300 @DrSusanOliver1 @p1154 @RuthLessTWAM @lecanardnoir @AlecMLyons @BoardSaxons @vincristine @OrganicCarla @wickedwilly1972 @J_G_Bollard @Mscjervis How do you know they are comparing like with like? The two numbers were derived from different sources. And nowhere have the underlying data been provided. #lucyletby
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m321
m321@jolt4321·
@iknowiwasthere @MarshallJarman @DebRoberts22249 @DJBandana @spiralofpurity @dc_ethan1 @littlegurrier @mellycatslave @PaulBut38752753 @Sunraged @GeorgeT43375501 @NeilRos55889793 @IainCrawford @BrocqChristine @Matthew94583525 @BullingdonAlex @Sunnanbyrg @benshep20 @Philbean12344 @berrysurviving @oldjamfan @getagripwillya @noBWrexit @Mads7Mads7 @pope2023 @ShooLeeNOT @TerrorTimeBaby @regnarGhtieK @jontay44 @RachelHale9920 @SaraG_300 @DrSusanOliver1 @p1154 @RuthLessTWAM @lecanardnoir @AlecMLyons @BoardSaxons @vincristine @OrganicCarla @wickedwilly1972 @J_G_Bollard @Mscjervis The dislodged tubes went from 40% to 36.36% The average is still 1% pal. These stats aren't looking good for Letby whatever way you cook them.
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Dr Phil Hammond 💙
Dr Phil Hammond 💙@drphilhammond·
There is no absolute certainty in medicine, but from what I have read it is more likely that baby C and baby O died from a combination of critically illness and substandard care than murder.
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Cathy Newman
Cathy Newman@cathynewman·
On @Channel4News tonight: 2 years after nurse Lucy Letby was told she would die in prison, a Senior Coroner’s Officer, who worked investigating deaths on behalf of the coroner, has spoken out for the 1st time to share concerns about the safety of the convictions, including information she says was not reported to the coroner when one baby died.
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Peter Hitchens
Peter Hitchens@ClarkeMicah·
.@polpenso. 1/2 I use the same defiition as anyone else does: Objective evidence is evidence which can be assessed and judged without any need for subjectve interpretation . There is no such evidence agaianst Ms Letby.
Phill Brear@Polpenso

@ClarkeMicah PH has his own definition of “objective evidence”. It’s not the definition used by the police, lawyers or the courts, but a journalist. A journalist.

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Mephitis@Mephitisblog·
Lucy's handwritten notes ("I'm evil I did this", etc) condemned her. They should not have been admissible. The prosecution told jurors the notes should be "taken as" a confession. But they had not been admitted as a confession, legally speaking. mephitis.co/post/lucy-letb…
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Peter Elston
Peter Elston@PeterElston1·
What you have posted is Dr V's statement to Coroner four months after the death in preparation for the Inquest (which as we know never happened). It is NOT the HM Coroner's authorisation form sent by the Coroner to pathologist on 27 June (four days after the death of Baby O on 23 June and one day before the PM was carried out on 28 June) in which Dr V completed the section, "Circumstances surrounding the death". In this section Dr V made NO mention of Brearey's cannula as Davies is saying they should have done. As a result the PM's only reference to anything to do with the cannula was “The right side of the abdomen contains a puncture mark which is covered by self-adhesive patch.” Nothing in the PM about what caused the puncture mark. Why? Because the Countess reporting doctor Dr V did not report that to Coroner and so it was not reported to the pathologist. Shocking and deeply suspicious omission. You'd be forgiven for thinking the Countess doctors were trying to cover something up.
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@DebRoberts22249 Yes it does. Once they were left there by mistake they became foreign objects.
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@DebRoberts22249 Oooo look, foreign object. Lucy must have cast a spell on doctor performing the procedure to leave them there. Can't for the life of me think why she would have later written down "foreign object". Can anyone help?
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Deb Roberts
Deb Roberts@DebRoberts22249·
"Foreign objects", "insulin diabetes" - just why was Letby writing these words, long before she could have possibly have known what she would eventually be charged with. The insulin results weren't even known about until after her first arrest, long after the notes had been seized by the police. #lucyletby @legalmarkmc @AnEmergentI @drphilhammond @johnsweeneyroar @DavidDavisMP @NadineDorries @jontay44 @evenhanded909 @danwootton @thecarolemalone @LeeShoo @NeenaModi1 @thejeremyvine @Mephitisblog @adamhpking @DavidRoseUK @rosiew5 @Jeremy_Hunt @Nigel_Farage
Deb Roberts@DebRoberts22249

This was a note shown to the court that was written by Letby. Bearing in mind these notes were written before her arrest, long before she could possibly have known what she would eventually be charged with, the words "foreign objects" is particularly striking. Only she knew that she had attacked Babies E and N with a foreign object to the throat at that time. #lucyletby @legalmarkmc @AnEmergentI @drphilhammond @johnsweeneyroar @DavidDavisMP @NadineDorries @jontay44 @evenhanded909 @danwootton @thecarolemalone @LeeShoo @NeenaModi1 @thejeremyvine @Mephitisblog @adamhpking @DavidRoseUK @rosiew5

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@SaraLockwood_x @DebRoberts22249 Sara, you're alive, wonderful. Are you going to answer my question about which NICU Bohin works in? And yes, I suspect there is all sorts of training nurses receive about the risks foreign objects pose, but I don't know because I am not a neonatal nurse.
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Sara Lockwood
Sara Lockwood@SaraLockwood_x·
@Mephitisblog @DebRoberts22249 Would it not just be common sense that if you attack a newborn with something hard/sharp, said newborn will bleeding, especially if you are attacking its mucosal membranes? You think this needs 'teaching"? Nurses aren't dense.
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Mephitis@Mephitisblog·
@DebRoberts22249 Do you know for sure that nurses are not taught that "foreign objects" are dangerous?
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Deb Roberts
Deb Roberts@DebRoberts22249·
I bet the name Deb Roberts really sticks in your throat, doesn't it, Peter?🤣🤣 How on earth did foreign objects come into her mind if she was innocent? A tiny baby is hardly able to access foreign objects themselves, are they? Someone has to take the foreign object to the baby. "Insulin diabetes", her words, they are what they are, but how could she possibly have known that the insulin poisoning would ever be subsequently discovered?
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@DebRoberts22249 Another (possibly acceptable) answer, would be "I don't know but I might write down words relating to explanations for the spike".
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@DebRoberts22249 @DebRoberts22249 if you were a B5 NN nurse (God forbid), had jst been taken off duty bcs you're suspected of killing babies, and were innocent, wht would you have written down? (Hint: the answer is "I don't know). P.S. what has insulin diabetes got to do with the insulin results?
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Mephitis@Mephitisblog·
@NeoDoc11 @AstreaScience @cjsnowdon @Michelehal7344 @simon170528 @triedbystats Very well said. I too pity Snowdon and his ilk. It cannot be much fun being so vile and ignorant of scientific logic. It was also instructive that not a single one of them responded to this post x.com/Mephitisblog/s…
Mephitis@Mephitisblog

@cjsnowdon What I find hardest to fathom abt @cjsnowdon and the other #lucyletby haters is why, given they know jurors have 100s of times wrongly convicted, and in LL case there are so many credible experts who hv come forward, they wd not wnt case ref'd if it was a close relative of theirs

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Dr Svilena Dimitrova
Dr Svilena Dimitrova@NeoDoc11·
I have a firm policy of not engaging with individuals who exhibit trolling behaviours, regardless of any supposed relevance they may think they have — and in Snowdon’s case, I see none. I therefore blocked him a long time ago. Still, I did manage to screenshot as it’s wise to keep a record, so thank you for giving me the heads up. I also screenshotted the untruthful claims he made against Phil Hammond the other day. On a more important note, mocking others by using mental illness as a slur is a vile and ignorant tactic that reflects on his character. Ultimately, it’s useful for his followers to see him expose his true colours. Mental illness is not an insult, and weaponising it to demean others is both morally bankrupt and socially irresponsible and a likely function of cognitive and/or educational deficiencies. Thankfully, I’m not personally affected by mental illness, but the fact that this person uses it as a form of what he perceives to be an attack speaks volumes of how threatened he feels by the well evidenced truth exposed by actual experts. I am not in any way angry with or frightened by people who exhibit ignorant and vile behaviours like his - I pity them and hope that one day they have the opportunity to learn how to do better. But thanks for looking out for me by alerting me to this post. 🙏❤️ And to everyone living with the challenges of mental illness who may have been affected by this post - please know that the words or opinions of trolls say nothing about your worth. Their cruelty is meaningless. Your dignity and strength are what matters. Please don’t surrender your power by allowing the cruelty of such troubled individuals to wound you.
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TriedByStats
TriedByStats@triedbystats·
Testimony of Dr A, I’m not going to sift through all the references but there are multiple references to the baby being in a ventilator. This whole approach of “well Dr Marnerides says it so it must be true” is incredibly naive. Defence experts are allowed to disagree with Dr Marnerides. The defence have a vice president of the royal college of pathologists on their panel. Why don’t we ask her?
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Christopher Snowdon@cjsnowdon

There are a number of problems with this conglomeration of hypotheses. Firstly, the only person who says Baby O was ventilated is Letby and she says he was put on ventilation at 5pm on 23/6, ie. less than an hour before he died. It cannot have been the cause of the collapse at 2.40pm. He had been on CPAP but only for the first ≈20 hours of life. Thereafter, his breathing was fine until Letby came back from her holiday. The haematoma was found post-mortem. The defence agreed that it was not there before Letby started her 23/6 shift. His haemoglobin levels did not fall until his last hours of life (if anything, they were rising) and they were in the healthy range until shortly before his death. If there had been a liver injury at birth - especially one as severe as that found port-mortem - they would have declined sooner. "She could find no evidence of deliberate harm to the liver". Except the three severe liver injuries that Dr Marnerides likened to the victim of a car crash! What caused these? It wasn't a cannula (they were on the wrong side) and it didn't happen during childbirth. The cannula/syringe theory was dismissed in court with good reason (Marnerides said it was most likely to have happened post-mortem), but even if such an injury had occurred, the cannula was inserted as a last ditch attempt to save a baby who had repeatedly collapsed. What caused the collapses?

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Peter Jonathan Hitchkins
Peter Jonathan Hitchkins@JFramingham11·
This Twat is willing to lie to you about #LucyLetby in any way he can. judiciary.uk/wp-content/upl…
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Dr Phil Hammond 💙@drphilhammond

What I find extraordinary given the technical complexity of neonatal care cases, is that Letby’s jury heard from no expert with recent neonatal intensive care experience. Nor were there experts in obstetrics, insulin metabolism, or statistics to scrutinise the prosecution's spreadsheet of Letby’s work shifts. The defence, notably, called no experts during the trial - though they did call a plumber.

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