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Tanuki

@TanukiTreasury

Bitcoin, Bitcoin Treasury, and Preferred Share enjoyer. Living in Japan

Tokyo, Japan เข้าร่วม Kasım 2025
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Tanuki@TanukiTreasury·
People should be more respectful of Strive's temporary BTC holding company NAKA.
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Tanuki@TanukiTreasury·
I think Saylor really wants a respectably-sized company doing a similar playbook, so as to add legitimacy and make it clear it isn't just him. Letting $ASST shine and grow fits that. It's also a great chance to AB test both models for a month or two without needing to have shareholders vote over and over in opposite directions. That said, daily paying STR/FCKD sounds great to me.
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BTC Optioneer
BTC Optioneer@BTCoptioneer·
@ZynxBTC $STRC should switch to weekly or daily dividends. There is no reason not to after seeing SATA succeed.
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Zynx@ZynxBTC·
The proportional growth rate for Strive is extraordinary. $ASST added 1,109 Bitcoin in a single week. A 7.21% increase in NAV. To put that into perspective, it is the equivalent of Strategy buying 60,833 Bitcoin in a single week. That is the power of $SATA. Special company.
Matt Cole@ColeMacro

Strive acquired an additional 1,109 $BTC for ~$85.4 million at an average cost of ~$76,988 per bitcoin. STRIVE SNAPSHOT Bitcoin holdings: 16,500 QTD BTC Yield: 11.0% YTD BTC Yield: 23.4% Amplification ratio: 45.2% $ASST $SATA

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Tanuki@TanukiTreasury·
@_Checkmatey_ ETH is a great $2000 stablecoin at least.
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Tanuki@TanukiTreasury·
@ZynxBTC Prefs are weird with scale, and $ASST is so well positioned. You need to have just enough capital to get prefs listed, and with some liquidity... but increasing the BTC yield and sats/share requires significantly less capital raising when the balance sheet is relatively small.
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Zynx@ZynxBTC·
This is going to be a hated post. $SATA has closed at par twice as much as $STRC this month and we still have the rest of the week to go. Proportionally speaking, $SATA is outperforming $STRC across almost every metric, including Sharpe ratio and days at par. Both are suggesting that Strategy needs to raise the yield. I have spoken about the risk-free rate rising since the move to 11.5%... it's no longer enough for the market. Some will point to total volume and suggest things are fine but imo days at par is a far better metric than 30-day VWAP for deciding when increase the yield for $STRC. A high VWAP tells you where the price has been. Days at par tells you whether the product is actually functioning as intended. 30-day VWAP is too slow and unresponsive to market conditions at this stage of the product's maturity. This is why $SATA will continue to dominate until something changes.
Zynx@ZynxBTC

People are going to be shocked when $SATA spends more days at par this month than $STRC. The next shock will be when the 30-day VWAP for $SATA is higher than $STRC's. There is no reason for retail investors to choose 11.5% yield over 13% and they are most of the demand.

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Tanuki@TanukiTreasury·
@BTCBreadMan What Bitcoin Did has to be the worst at this. It's half the show.
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Breadman@BTCBreadMan·
The sheer number of paid ad breaks on podcasts is becoming obnoxious to me.
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Tanuki
Tanuki@TanukiTreasury·
@_JesseMK @RoaringRagnar That was my thought too, but the big difference is that SATA sales are barely affected by sentiment in ASST, whereas pure ATM-based buys are completely affected by it.
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Jesse@_JesseMK·
@RoaringRagnar Sounds like the argument that was put forth for buying MSTR and MP at high mNAVs. Didn’t Adam Back suggest a metric around it?
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Ragnar@RoaringRagnar·
How to buy $ASST at 1x mNAV today. Strive has generated a BTC Yield of 46.9% this year so far. If they end the year at 75% BTC Yield, which is a realistic (and a bit sandbagged) assumption, it takes 8 months of holding $ASST until you earn back the full premium you pay today. Which means that you can buy today, wait 8 months, and then your cost basis (in BTC terms) is at 1x mNAV. The cool thing is, that this doesn't stop. Over time, your cost basis will drop to 0.5x mNAV or lower. This is an excellent deal, if you ask me. The earnback period will only increase from here, if they continue to perform like they are these days. Just my 2 sats.
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Tanuki@TanukiTreasury·
@gerovich Thank you for confirming that the silence is a part of the regulatory process. I look forward to the limit up days to come!
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Simon Gerovich
Simon Gerovich@gerovich·
A lot of pieces are being put in place right now at Metaplanet. Individually, none of them tell the full story. Together, they will. We are working harder than at any point I can remember to get them right. I wish I could share more. Soon enough, the picture will speak for itself. We are building this company for the long term, and for every shareholder who is along for that journey. いまメタプラネットでは、様々な取り組みが少しずつ形になりつつあります。個別に見ても、全体像は見えてきません。すべてが揃ったとき、初めて意味を持ちます。私たちは、これまでにないほど真剣に、その一つひとつに向き合っています。今はまだ多くを語れないのが歯がゆいですが、時が来れば、自ずと見えてくるはずです。私たちはこの会社を長期視点で築いています。そして、その歩みを共にしてくださるすべての株主の皆様と共に。
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Tanuki@TanukiTreasury·
@BitcoinPierre @brian_armstrong @CKalaleh77112 This isn't even a maxi thing. Sound money is a dramatically more important need for society than marginal increases in the accessibility & bid-ask spread of various assets.
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Brian Armstrong
Brian Armstrong@brian_armstrong·
Major areas where the financial system still needs an update: 1. Tokenization of real-world assets - Real estate, stocks, bonds, funds, etc. onchain for instant settlement, fractional ownership & massive distribution. 2. 24/7 Global trading - Pooled global liquidity, every asset, every person, with great leverage and capital efficiency. 3. Next-gen payments - Near-instant, low-cost global transfers using stablecoins, including for Agentic payments. 4. AI-powered risk, credit, compliance, and advice - Better decisions, less fraud, and broader access to capital. Everyone gets access to a great financial advisor. 5. Innovation friendly regulation - Move from one-size-fits-all to risk-based rules that encourage innovation and competition instead of stifling it. 6. Expanded access - Open protocols that reduce middlemen and self-custodial wallets to expand access to everyone with a smartphone. 7. Capital formation - Low cost and turnkey for anyone to raise money for a good idea, increasing the number of startups. 8. Sound money - A refuge from inflation, when discipline is lost in fiat money. Jobs not done until we get these working for all. Will require lots of tech innovation and policy work to get there.
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Tanuki@TanukiTreasury·
@ryQuant @Strive This just sounds petty and obsessive. Being a perpetual dick doesn't entitle you to a debate.
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Tanuki@TanukiTreasury·
@souljagoyteller I'd barely even heard of him before reading 'Master & Margarita'.
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Sami Gold@souljagoyteller·
Why is it that Pontius Pilate is not more of a villain in Christian history? When reading the New Testament for the first time, I was shocked to see that Pilate is depicted more as doing his Roman duty and not as a satanic force
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Tanuki@TanukiTreasury·
@mikewmunz @Bankless @saylor @PunterJeff The treasury companies will eventually devour crypto. Want staking yield? 11%+ with minimal volatility in your brokerage Want bigger gains than btc? Common stock and related options Process has already begun.
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MikeWMunz 🟧@mikewmunz·
@Bankless guys will turn into the biggest Digital Credit supporters the world has ever seen as a result of these back to back interviews with @saylor and @PunterJeff Pivoting from ETH to the better collateral
Jeff Walton@PunterJeff

Here's my conversation with @TrustlessState of @Bankless We unpack $SATA and $STRC, the landscape of Digital Credit, Strive & Strategy business model, and rebuilding the world's trust infrastructure from the ground up. Great follow up conversation to @saylor joining the pod last month. [TIMESTAMPS] 0:00 Intro 1:59 Stretch, Risk, and Balance Sheets 5:28 Dividend Backstop Debate 8:53 Measuring Bitcoin Downside 15:25 Success as Long-Tail Risk 19:17 Common Equity as Revenue 25:57 Digital Credit’s Massive Market 29:37 Credit, Liquidity, and Yield 33:02 Banks, Trust, and Inflation 36:08 Trust Networks Rebuilt 40:26 Digital Labor and Yield 44:38 Bitcoin’s Growing Capital Base 48:36 S-Curve and Market Size 52:36 Building on Bitcoin Instruments 55:58 Transforming the Asset 59:12 Co-opetition in Bitcoin Credit 1:03:23 Low Vol for Long Holders 1:09:13 Strive Versus Strategy 1:12:38 Scaling Faster Than Strategy 1:17:30 Closing & Disclaimers

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Yves-André Graf@GrafYves·
This was next level! I’ve followed @PunterJeff for a while, and he’s always been an incredible talker and explainer… but he absolutely crushed this one. Maybe all those hours listening to Saylor are rubbing off. Either way, @saylor, you might have some serious competition, not just on the Digital Credit front, but on the speaking front too.
Jeff Walton@PunterJeff

Here's my conversation with @TrustlessState of @Bankless We unpack $SATA and $STRC, the landscape of Digital Credit, Strive & Strategy business model, and rebuilding the world's trust infrastructure from the ground up. Great follow up conversation to @saylor joining the pod last month. [TIMESTAMPS] 0:00 Intro 1:59 Stretch, Risk, and Balance Sheets 5:28 Dividend Backstop Debate 8:53 Measuring Bitcoin Downside 15:25 Success as Long-Tail Risk 19:17 Common Equity as Revenue 25:57 Digital Credit’s Massive Market 29:37 Credit, Liquidity, and Yield 33:02 Banks, Trust, and Inflation 36:08 Trust Networks Rebuilt 40:26 Digital Labor and Yield 44:38 Bitcoin’s Growing Capital Base 48:36 S-Curve and Market Size 52:36 Building on Bitcoin Instruments 55:58 Transforming the Asset 59:12 Co-opetition in Bitcoin Credit 1:03:23 Low Vol for Long Holders 1:09:13 Strive Versus Strategy 1:12:38 Scaling Faster Than Strategy 1:17:30 Closing & Disclaimers

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Tanuki@TanukiTreasury·
@HermesLux Would that allow the selling of 10 delta calls against our spot BTC?
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Hermes Lux@HermesLux·
This is going to be interesting. Once liquidity kicks in, this is going to be a better option than buying and selling calls and puts against IBIT or any Bitcoin ETF. And this is only going to add more volatility to Bitcoin, which will help MSTR and any other Bitcoin Treasury company. These are also going to be cash-settled (no physical delivery of Bitcoin), European-style exercise, options, which I prefer. I'm very interested.
Bitcoin Magazine@BitcoinMagazine

JUST IN: Nasdaq Bitcoin Index options granted approval by SEC, Bloomberg reports 🇺🇸

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Tanuki@TanukiTreasury·
@Micro2Macr0 I agree, my base case for Strive is more than Bullish.
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Micro2Macr0@Micro2Macr0·
I STRONGLY believe that $ASST will be atleast in the #4-5 for spot for #Bitcoin Treasury company holdings by year end. Plan accordingly.
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Tanuki@TanukiTreasury·
@MDBitcoin Everyone already is the pizza guy. We constantly choose to buy things other than BTC, which always carries the opportunity cost of the BTC we could have bought at the point in time.
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MDB@MDBitcoin·
Everyone will end up like the Bitcoin Pizza Guy 🍕 Think about it If you sell Bitcoin in any way, shape, or form, it won’t really matter what you spend it on. It could be something small, like a bottle of water. But 20 years from now, people may look back and think it was a foolish decision. It’s similar to the famous Bitcoin pizza story from 2010, when someone spent 10,000 bitcoin:native on two pizzas. Today, that amount would be worth a fortune. The Bitcoin transactions people make today may be laughed at one day.
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Tanuki@TanukiTreasury·
@AdamBLiv Yeah, I was just messing with a spreadsheet to map this out and even STRK was outperforming BTC because of how the amplification played out.
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Adam Livingston
Adam Livingston@AdamBLiv·
Most people misunderstand MSTR’s “33% amplified Bitcoin” profile. They think Bitcoin up 100%, MSTR up 133%. But the real insanity is when that amplification compounds. Assume Bitcoin compounds at 25% annually for 10 years. Bitcoin turns $1 into about $9.30. Now assume MSTR remains roughly 33% amplified to Bitcoin. MSTR turns $1 into about $17.60. Same Bitcoin thesis. Same decade. Almost 2x the total return. That is the part people miss. The amplification compounds every year. Year 1, the gap looks small. Year 5, it starts getting uncomfortable. Year 10, if the end goal is more Bitcoin, you can end up with almost twice the amount of Bitcoin. This is why MSTR is such a psychological nightmare for markets. Bitcoin is pristine digital capital. MSTR is Bitcoin with a capital markets flamethrower attached to it. If the amplification persists, the math gets violent. Do you accept more counterparty risk in exchange for potential outperformance in both Bitcoin and dollar terms?
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Tanuki@TanukiTreasury·
@signulll Harry Browne had great thoughts on this in 'How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World'.
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signüll@signulll·
the golden rule is that you should rarely if ever try to change anyone’s mind. this is a fool’s errand cuz it rarely works, & even when it does the belief you installed is way weaker, the person becomes resentful, & everything dynamic from then on becomes borrowed instead of owned. you can only gently probe until you understand why they arrived at that conclusion. then you must move on like it never happened. this is true for any type of relationship including professional but esp true in romantic dynamics.
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Tanuki@TanukiTreasury·
@ZynxBTC I rotated some high cost basis MTPLF into it, very impressed by what they've built in such a short time.
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Zynx@ZynxBTC·
The temptation to just sell all my equity positions and put it all into $ASST is growing by the day. It is one of the most obvious 10x opportunities I have seen in a long time. It is clear management are willing to let the amplification ratio go higher. It is the purest form of leveraged Bitcoin exposure in an equity on the market. It's going to explode as soon as Bitcoin makes any sustained move to the upside.
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Tanuki@TanukiTreasury·
@RichLassiterMD It's also clear that Strategy intends to eventually raise the dividend-frequency of STRK (they almost did it during this STRC vote, but didn't want to complicate the vote) so STRK could end up being a bi-weekly or daily payment within a couple years.
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Rich Lassiter, MD 🟠 ₿itcoin
Everyone's talking about STRC. I get it...a tax-deferred return of 11.5% is fantastic. But STRK is a better investment if you can wait quarterly for your payment. 10.96% yield at today's price. $34.98 if it returns to par ($100) while you collect a year of payments, vs $11.5 in a year for STRC. And potential unlimited upside, but certainly much, much higher as MSTR accelerates, and you collect the 10.96% while you wait.
Rich Lassiter, MD 🟠 ₿itcoin tweet mediaRich Lassiter, MD 🟠 ₿itcoin tweet media
AA ⚡️@AAStack

A friend of mine just sold a property and is now sitting on about $245,000 in cash. He was considering buying an apartment outright in Miami, no mortgage, paying cash, even with a $675/month HOA association fee. After all expenses, he estimated he could net around $1,500 per month if he rented it. I brought up Bitcoin, but he’s very risk averse, so he immediately shut that idea down. Then I mentioned $STRC. At an 11.5% yield, that same $245,000 could potentially generate around $2,347 per month, without dealing with tenants, vacancies, repairs, or HOA issues. I mentioned STRC is not risk free. That it may potentially generate more income, but it comes with different risks than a rental property such as market risk, structural risk, and potential changes in yield. Today he’s going to look into it and do his own research. Hopefully he makes an informed decision and chooses the option that best fits his goals and risk tolerance. Sometimes people don’t choose the safest option. They choose the risk they understand best. And thats ok

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